Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

I am done with the governor. I’ve been his supporter but this affects business to the point that bankruptcy cases will skyrocket. Forget soccer. It’s more now about not allowing citizens to make money to pay the bills. Where’s that recall petition.
 
Well, I'll agree with Dad here a bit. It's clear the bars from what's been studied are somewhat a source of transmission....people gather close and no masks because you have to drink. What is ridiculous is if bars would reopen before schools.
Agree with the general sentiment, but all bars are not created equally. If distancing is enforced, it shouldn't be any worse than restaurants. If I remember correctly, the bars that had big outbreaks were packed and had people pretty much on top of each other.

The other thing I'll say is that AZ may be able to "absorb" more risky behavior than CA and keep Rt below < 1 because a higher percentage of people in AZ have immunity. If Rt is below 1 now in AZ, AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES IN BEHAVIOR, only changes in environmental factors should affect Rt. CA going to bars is a change in behavior for CA and it may increase Rt for us.
 
and there's also this...

If a person is tested multiple times on different days then he or she will be counted for each day he or she was tested.

That’s crazy. It’s so unfair to count somebody as positive when they’re, uh, still positive.
 
Here’s the thing that most infuriated me. When we started 15 days to slow the spread it was all about hospitalizations and flatten the curve. This proves in California it’s no longer about that. It’s no longer even about saving lives. I’ll leave it to you all to debate in the off topic forum what it’s really about but it can’t be about those things. I feel so very lies to...they said it was urgent to stop hospitals from getting overwhelmed.
 
I don’t really have a complaint with the 1/4/7 breakpoints. It’s a good way to look at it.

I just wish I knew what the number was for adding different activities. Something like red for contact practice, orange for scrimmages, yellow for league play.
 
Here’s the thing that most infuriated me. When we started 15 days to slow the spread it was all about hospitalizations and flatten the curve. This proves in California it’s no longer about that. It’s no longer even about saving lives. I’ll leave it to you all to debate in the off topic forum what it’s really about but it can’t be about those things. I feel so very lies to...they said it was urgent to stop hospitals from getting overwhelmed.
You see it for what it is Grace. Some people can't see it; others don't want to see it. But ultimately we've all been conned.
 
That’s crazy. It’s so unfair to count somebody as positive when they’re, uh, still positive.
Except uhhhh that it counts as a new case each time even within the same day....since new cases are a part of the matrix for people getting back to work and moving on with life, that is a problem.

I view that just doesn’t dawn on you since like Covid, you’re not affected by it.
 
Here’s the thing that most infuriated me. When we started 15 days to slow the spread it was all about hospitalizations and flatten the curve. This proves in California it’s no longer about that. It’s no longer even about saving lives. I’ll leave it to you all to debate in the off topic forum what it’s really about but it can’t be about those things. I feel so very lies to...they said it was urgent to stop hospitals from getting overwhelmed.
"Life is not fair Grace; Just deal with it." We (( and EJ) both know what's going on and we both were hoping we were wrong and others we know were wrong. We know that Cali will have decide to be a State of snitches, lead by bitches that snitch on their neighbors and old friends so they can get rewards for it. Or, they will be a place of fairness and honesty, without all the cheating. I can say right now my wife's FB account is blowing up and people are pissed off for some reason. People have finally had enough I think.
 
Except uhhhh that it counts as a new case each time even within the same day....since new cases are a part of the matrix for people getting back to work and moving on with life, that is a problem.

I view that just doesn’t dawn on you since like Covid, you’re not affected by it.

Except you are lying. It does not count as a new case. It only counts toward the positivity rate as it should because they, uh, tested positive.
 
Maybe the amount of time then? I'm stumped. ^\_(;?)_/^
This is my thought as well. I don’t believe that OC has meet the new guidelines for the past two weeks. Kind of F’d up to change the rules in the middle of the game but Newsom loves to do that.
 
I know of one person who got tested 4 separate times each time positive (no symptoms); each positive test counted towards the count.
Why take the test 4 times if not sick? Sd county health director has stated numerous times that people who retake tests and are still positive do not count as new cases.
 
Here’s the thing that most infuriated me. When we started 15 days to slow the spread it was all about hospitalizations and flatten the curve. This proves in California it’s no longer about that. It’s no longer even about saving lives. I’ll leave it to you all to debate in the off topic forum what it’s really about but it can’t be about those things. I feel so very lies to...they said it was urgent to stop hospitals from getting overwhelmed.
This was evident to many day one. It takes people different t rates of time to figure things out and accept data/evidence. There are some that will never accept information due to the deep seeded ideologies. Many who have power, even the power to control info, get arrogant and don’t understand you can only push people so far. I think, from reading posts online, people who backed the Governor without question, can’t ignore this blatant manipulation. Even those who are go with the flow are frustrated. Not even about sports. People don’t like bait and switch - especially if they have been following the rules
 
can someone explain this positivity rate when we are counting someone more than once? Let’s say we have 10 individuals living in a house. 3 of them test positive on Monday, the same 3 retake the test and test positive on Friday. What’s the positivity rate for the week?
 
"Life is not fair Grace; Just deal with it." We (( and EJ) both know what's going on and we both were hoping we were wrong and others we know were wrong. We know that Cali will have decide to be a State of snitches, lead by bitches that snitch on their neighbors and old friends so they can get rewards for it. Or, they will be a place of fairness and honesty, without all the cheating. I can say right now my wife's FB account is blowing up and people are pissed off for some reason. People have finally had enough I think.
While I support your position that the state should open up outdoor sports and schools, I disagree with your rhetoric regarding snitches and CA. We are not a country/state that expects our citizens to shut up and sit down or start calling them snitches or bitches because they are willing to stand up and voice their concerns. You don't want to hear it, unfriend them or block them. I know a lot of people who do not want schools open or sports open and they have very legitimate concerns. We don't have to agree on everything and most issues are not black and white, especially this one. The least we can do is respect each other. For some, it's life or death of their loved ones - think how strongly you would feel if your daughter or wife has a high potential of dying from this? They should feel strongly about it.
 
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