Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

watfly said:
Is anyone other than me tired of hearing the term "cohort"? The only term more maddening to me is the "new normal"? F the new normal, lets get back to normal.

It's pretty clever though, instead of outright prohibiting kids from going back to school, just make the requirements so onerous that its nearly impossible. You come off looking like the good guy, allowing school but protecting school children.
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"No Fall Sports"
 
dad4 said:
Germany is doing just fine reopening schools with cohorts. I think theirs are larger, but still stable groups.

Of course, Germany has considerably better qualified teachers than we do. Asking the English teach to handle basic science is less of a train wreck.
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I'm not necessarily opposed to the concept, just tired of hearing the term. I'm in favor of anything reasonable and manageable that gets kids back in school.
 
dad4 said:
Germany is doing just fine reopening schools with cohorts. I think theirs are larger, but still stable groups.
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I don't think your idea of cohort is the same as what Germany is doing. Their cohorts number in the 100s.

"Classes have been reorganized, creating so-called "cohorts" groups of several hundred students. The "cohorts" are advised to stay apart, but social distancing rules are being done away with within each group. Classes are being scheduled on a staggered basis. Each cohort has its own area in the school grounds, cloakrooms, restrooms and canteens.

The hope is that if there is an infection, only the respective "cohort" will have to be quarantined, rather than the entire school. In the event of new infections, it is not the schools that decide the next course of action, but the local health authorities. For example, whether to quarantine an entire school or just the respective "cohort."

"Strict statewide hygiene rules have been put in place: Students are told to keep their hands off the banisters when taking the stairs — and to wash them frequently. Disinfectant is to be used sparingly and only when deemed necessary — and mixed into cleaning water rather than sprayed pure. Masks are not obligatory and teachers can avail of free testing for the coronavirus."
 
Desert Hound said:
I don't think your idea of cohort is the same as what Germany is doing. Their cohorts number in the 100s.

"Classes have been reorganized, creating so-called "cohorts" groups of several hundred students. The "cohorts" are advised to stay apart, but social distancing rules are being done away with within each group. Classes are being scheduled on a staggered basis. Each cohort has its own area in the school grounds, cloakrooms, restrooms and canteens.

The hope is that if there is an infection, only the respective "cohort" will have to be quarantined, rather than the entire school. In the event of new infections, it is not the schools that decide the next course of action, but the local health authorities. For example, whether to quarantine an entire school or just the respective "cohort."

"Strict statewide hygiene rules have been put in place: Students are told to keep their hands off the banisters when taking the stairs — and to wash them frequently. Disinfectant is to be used sparingly and only when deemed necessary — and mixed into cleaning water rather than sprayed pure. Masks are not obligatory and teachers can avail of free testing for the coronavirus."
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Similar model will soon be implemented in many school districts in NJ, PA, NY, VA, etc. An example will be NJ - 5 day cycle where "cohorts" will go be in class for 2 days, virtual for 3, with one day dedicated to disinfecting the school. For as much shade that I will cast on NJ for many, many things, their efforts to get kids back in school in prudent manner is admirable. School districts tend to better funded and decently run (for the most part).

It's not perfect, but it's a start and an effort.
 
Desert Hound said:
I don't think your idea of cohort is the same as what Germany is doing. Their cohorts number in the 100s.

"Classes have been reorganized, creating so-called "cohorts" groups of several hundred students. The "cohorts" are advised to stay apart, but social distancing rules are being done away with within each group. Classes are being scheduled on a staggered basis. Each cohort has its own area in the school grounds, cloakrooms, restrooms and canteens.

The hope is that if there is an infection, only the respective "cohort" will have to be quarantined, rather than the entire school. In the event of new infections, it is not the schools that decide the next course of action, but the local health authorities. For example, whether to quarantine an entire school or just the respective "cohort."

"Strict statewide hygiene rules have been put in place: Students are told to keep their hands off the banisters when taking the stairs — and to wash them frequently. Disinfectant is to be used sparingly and only when deemed necessary — and mixed into cleaning water rather than sprayed pure. Masks are not obligatory and teachers can avail of free testing for the coronavirus."
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May vary by region. NYT article put size at a couple dozen for a school in Berlin. Masks required in common areas but not classrooms.

DE also has far lower daily cases, about 1/10 the level in CA. As a result, they can contact trace the kids in a way that we do not.

Where was your article from?
 
dad4 said:
May vary by region. NYT article put size at a couple dozen for a school in Berlin. Masks required in common areas but not classrooms.

DE also has far lower daily cases, about 1/10 the level in CA. As a result, they can contact trace the kids in a way that we do not.

Where was your article from?
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From these guys.

Deutsche Welle or DW is a German public international broadcaster funded by the German federal tax budget. The service is available in 30 languages. DW's satellite television service consists of channels in English, German, Spanish, and Arabic.

School is back in Germany — but coronavirus is not gone – DW – 08/03/2020

The school holidays are coming to an end in parts of Germany. The authorities want a return to "normal" school life. But that's easier said than done.
www.dw.com www.dw.com
 
Desert Hound said:
From these guys.

Deutsche Welle or DW is a German public international broadcaster funded by the German federal tax budget. The service is available in 30 languages. DW's satellite television service consists of channels in English, German, Spanish, and Arabic.

School is back in Germany — but coronavirus is not gone – DW – 08/03/2020

The school holidays are coming to an end in parts of Germany. The authorities want a return to "normal" school life. But that's easier said than done.
www.dw.com www.dw.com
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Thanks.

Picture of a german classroom from cbs. Appears to have masks.
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Ellejustus said:
"No Fall Sports"
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All of the above but the cohorts term I don't care for, reminds me of law enforcement or something?

One thing for sure "change is constant" new guidance coming out Friday for school or education according to governor's noon update.

Timely testing and reducing costs with a new partnership with a private firm to build capacity was announced, let's hope this works out better than the 7-11 timeframe and $150+ cost per.

What about "game changers" 150k more tests daily with quoted as possible with this new partnership. Building a new lab space with our tax dollars on this contract.
 
watfly said:
It's about to hit the fan. I'm hearing a steady stream of child meltdown stories from frustrations with online learning. It's just not sustainable for the masses.
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This is only the first meltdown. If that 20% barrier isn't very sticky or fades quickly, remember y'all we may be doing this til fall of 2021. When that realization comes down, then things really begin to break down. Most people are still holding out hope....we can do this for a month....the vaccine is coming right.....I tell you the silence on that call with our schools when the doctors said no pediatriac vaccine til summer 2021 was defeaning.

Then the next meltdown comes in the first quarter when grades begin to be delivered. Unlike the spring, there's very little grade protection now. That's when the system begins to truly collapse (the disappearance of special needs and at risk kids wholesale from the camera as parents say f it). That's assuming it comes to that and leaders don't break before then.
 
Grace T. said:
I tell you the silence on that call with our schools when the doctors said no pediatriac vaccine til summer 2021 was defeaning.
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We just don't know when a vaccine will come out. It certainly isn't right around the corner.

I don't think people realize how far out it is.
 
dad4 said:
Yeah. Consistent with the NYT claim of optional inside classroom.

But DE as a whole has around 1,000 cases per day. They can have massless elementary school in part because their police actually enforced the mask and distancing laws back in April through July.
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DE Germany? You are misinformed. Germany's mask compliance is about 15% less than ours from surveys. Their mask ordinances are more limited (varies state by state but generally in shops, on public transit and in certain places of business, not beaches or whenever you leave your house). Their exemptions for young children are broader than ours. Police only started enforcing the mask ordinance in some Lander a few days ago and it's been a source of great controversy.
 
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