Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

[dad4]

When you play kick ball at 7x7 it's a timing thing for sure and all the others players look to knock the baby goat down on her face. Nothing wrong with that. Plus, some kickball teams when they get older, will skip the CM all together and go over the top 75% of the time. Boring IMO. Like shooting threes all day like the Warriors. Video game hoops. No defense at all.....When your GK is taught not to punt it but to play from the back, now your talking chess and moves and runs and this and that. My DD IQ is very good so when she plays with a team that all the players are presumed to be better then her some day, I think she will really shine and hold her own. Dont be a one trick pony in soccer is so true.

Got it. A team with slow defenders will try to shove the faster players.

That's a problem whether you play possession or long ball. If anything, I'd say I see more fouls trying to dribble free than trying to break the trap with a pass, long or short.

 

[happy9]

"I could care less about who to blame, it's irrelevant right now."

Preceded by, "CA adults in positions of power are just not getting it done. It's unfortunate." Blame, blame, blame!

Your very own words.

Did you not see my previous post? Still can't do it ha? How about taking that 1st step brother, or is it too big for you??

I guess we just have to agree to disagree. That statement is not blame, it's a statement of fact. Maybe if I frame it more political for you: Republicans, Democrats, Socialists, etc in the Great State of California are unable to solve problems they've been hired/elected to solve. They are too busy pandering to their constituency, pounding their chest in anger, blaming the other side and establishing criteria that they clearly know will never be met, leaving no room for compromise. Bureaucracy at it's finest

Once you accept that your elected officials aren't doing anything on your behalf, you will feel better. Then you can figure out what you are going to do next. Then and only then will you be free...

Or, you can just say that I am blaming someone, that may also make you feel better. I'm fine with that. I surely am not sitting around waiting for my school district to figure it out for me. They've had since the end of May to figure it out. They figured out how to have a daycare in the schools over the summer months - but that makes them money. Time to take my dollars elsewhere.

 

[Ellejustus]

I don't think it's a bad thing that you feel that way, I'm just saying everyone has their own idea of what a top team is. Winning is obviously a piece of that. Glad your daughter learned possession at Surf, it's a fantastic way to play. I have to say, there shouldn't be any slow defenders at high levels, but unfortunately there are. I will say, both of my kids have had a few slow defenders and although they weren't fast they knew how to read the game, use their body and were/are great defenders. Obviously, speed is preferred but I've also experienced super fast defenders with very little skill which is no bueno either. Anyhow, sounds like you and your daughter found the right fit at your current club and that's all that matters now, plus she's played with two of the best clubs so she's good to go.

Good correction and i agree with you and i was over stating my exaggeration of slow defenders. I think the big strong defenders who know how to move and use their bodies are the toughest defenders. One coach called them big heifers who will knock you on your ass. I say that as a compliment by the way and I didnt use that word, i'm just quoting a big time coach.

 

[mlx]

Sour grapes?

Did the suit fit?

 

[kickingandscreaming]

Let's tell the rest of the story - 996 cases yesterday - yep, but, - every single other metric going down and trending down since middle of JUL. Your family in AZ has made a choice to not go outside. Which is great, since we have choices and live in America.

AZ is trending in the right direction, 200 cases reported today. Yes, it's the weekend and likely not as accurate, but still trending downward. The big difference between AZ and CA is that politics are suffocating CA. Politics are certainly part of the calculus in AZ, but not as big of a factor. CA is just a bigger, much more complex animal than AZ. We certainly took a stumble during memorial day weekend and paid the price. We will see how long the state can keep some businesses from operating before we see more open revolt from those type businesses.

And, soccer was in full swing yesterday (and going on today) , with friendlies, state sanctioned scrimmages, and state league play in games. From all reports, parents played nice, teams moved on and off the field with relative efficiency, and there weren't any unusual heat related injuries beyond what we normally experience in the extreme heat.

Looking forward to next week's games. I hear rumors that a cali team or two may be coming to town, just can't confirm or deny.

AZ is pretty much done with this wave assuming no changes in behavior, etc. that might change risk.

 

[Ellejustus]

A special song to all the dads with kids. This has been one hell of a ride for this papa.

 

[Justafan]

I guess we just have to agree to disagree. That statement is not blame, it's a statement of fact. Maybe if I frame it more political for you: Republicans, Democrats, Socialists, etc in the Great State of California are unable to solve problems they've been hired/elected to solve. They are too busy pandering to their constituency, pounding their chest in anger, blaming the other side and establishing criteria that they clearly know will never be met, leaving no room for compromise. Bureaucracy at it's finest

Once you accept that your elected officials aren't doing anything on your behalf, you will feel better. Then you can figure out what you are going to do next. Then and only then will you be free...

Or, you can just say that I am blaming someone, that may also make you feel better. I'm fine with that. I surely am not sitting around waiting for my school district to figure it out for me. They've had since the end of May to figure it out. They figured out how to have a daycare in the schools over the summer months - but that makes them money. Time to take my dollars elsewhere.

One last try. You are still "blaming," just now it's all of California's leadership and parties (although we all know who you're really blaming). But you're still blaming. You are not as "free" as you want everybody to believe, because you can't help yourself. You're also blaming your school district b/c they can't figure it out for you. You always have to throw that dig.

I'm not saying California, its leadership, and/or your district are beyond blame, but none of you have had the courage to acknowledge who bears the brunt of the blame. Are you simply too stubborn or too proud to be able to do that? It's like the Astros apology for cheating. They say they are sorry but never actually say what they are sorry for. They never accepted responsibility for the actual acts of cheating. It's actually quite astonishing. Did you not see my post where I stated all the mistakes I believe California has done? It's not that hard, but it takes integrity. You guys really take this way too personally. A screw up is a screw up, no matter who it is. Let's call a spade a spade.

 

[davin]

Let's tell the rest of the story - 996 cases yesterday - yep, but, - every single other metric going down and trending down since middle of JUL. Your family in AZ has made a choice to not go outside. Which is great, since we have choices and live in America.

AZ is trending in the right direction, 200 cases reported today. Yes, it's the weekend and likely not as accurate, but still trending downward. The big difference between AZ and CA is that politics are suffocating CA. Politics are certainly part of the calculus in AZ, but not as big of a factor. CA is just a bigger, much more complex animal than AZ. We certainly took a stumble during memorial day weekend and paid the price. We will see how long the state can keep some businesses from operating before we see more open revolt from those type businesses.

And, soccer was in full swing yesterday (and going on today) , with friendlies, state sanctioned scrimmages, and state league play in games. From all reports, parents played nice, teams moved on and off the field with relative efficiency, and there weren't any unusual heat related injuries beyond what we normally experience in the extreme heat.

Looking forward to next week's games. I hear rumors that a cali team or two may be coming to town, just can't confirm or deny.

Only on a youth soccer board can someone claim AZ is outperforming CA in any meaningful way. AZ has more COVID deaths and infections per capita by a longshot. AZ never has, and never will, outperform CA economically. If your only measure is the ability for kids to play soccer during a pandemic, have at it. You win, and you can keep that.

 

[Gkdad1]

Back to the topic... Both San Diego and OC are off the state Monitoring list. Schools in San Diego can open around September 1. If numbers continue downward trend possible there is a season with local play only.

 

[dad4]

Back to the topic... Both San Diego and OC are off the state Monitoring list. Schools in San Diego can open around September 1. If numbers continue downward trend possible there is a season with local play only.

That would be great.

Any reason to believe that being off the list is enough for local games?

 

[Sheriff Joe]

Marxist? So now people who quote facts and figures are Marxists? I think you're trying to call me a socialist, is that it? DId you take $ from the government in the last 6 months? If so , you're a socialist. I work at a company that makes billions of $ a year, that makes me a capitalist. Socialism has some positives, you would know none of them because you're just cutting and pasting from what you hear or read on FOX news or other sites quoting conspiracy theories and you have no idea what any of it means.

As far as soccer goes, you may see games here and there but no large league is gonna get a waiver to play soccer right now. Did I rain on your parade? Who is more sad, you or your kid because you have nothing to do? Get a hobby, get a job, find something to do. Soccer will be back next year.

You kinda sound like an asshole.

 

[Gkdad1]

That would be great.

Any reason to believe that being off the list is enough for local games?

I would like to think so, but who knows. The Governor hinted at new guidelines in the next week or so.

 

[Sheriff Joe]

When you play kick ball at 7x7 it's a timing thing for sure and all the others players look to knock the baby goat down on her face. Nothing wrong with that. Plus, some kickball teams when they get older, will skip the CM all together and go over the top 75% of the time. Boring IMO. Like shooting threes all day like the Warriors. Video game hoops. No defense at all.....When your GK is taught not to punt it but to play from the back, now your talking chess and moves and runs and this and that. My DD IQ is very good so when she plays with a team that all the players are presumed to be better then her some day, I think she will really shine and hold her own. Dont be a one trick pony in soccer is so true.

No one plays kickball like baker.

 

[Ellejustus]

You kinda sound like an asshole.

It's like, "get it over it loser. So what you got laid off. Get a job, do something loser. Plus, tell your dd to stop whining about not being able to play stupid soccer game. Go tell her to get some hobbies and get a clue on what is really going. No soccer losers!!!" Nothing like the side with the light....lol.....ya, right, the light....my__________________________________________-.....lol

 

[Ellejustus]

No one plays kickball like baker.

They win but that way of winning is so hard on the young mind and it hurts the body. Plus, one of them yells a lot and is mean to refs. They do win so I give them some credit and they have helped so many get into college and that's cool. We do need to play prettier soccer as a society, not kickball. That's why I was first in line to get my Kool Aid Sherrif when the GDA was born. I was first in line and i was all in.

 

[lancer]

Playing soccer in AZ during in August makes less sense than playing in OC(OVID) right now.

 

[Desert Hound]

Well they are providing shade structures between the fields for the refs and there is water and a fair amount of food trucks. That being said its damn hot. Not so much the temp but it is a bit humid for here. Kids had one water break per half. My DD played all game and is a bit dehydrated but felt better once she got in the air conditioned truck. 3-0 win nice way to start the year even for a scrimage.

Glad she had fun...and glad soccer is on again!!!

 

[Anon9]

Only on a youth soccer board can someone claim AZ is outperforming CA in any meaningful way. AZ has more COVID deaths and infections per capita by a longshot. AZ never has, and never will, outperform CA economically. If your only measure is the ability for kids to play soccer during a pandemic, have at it. You win, and you can keep that.

Why do people like yourself like to read our post and just make up what we are saying. @happy9 stated the difference in our politics is what is holding us back. With the information you have put forward, if Arizona is back to play with safety guidelines, then California should be ahead or the same since our numbers and death rate is better per capita. Stop putting words in people’s mouth and trying to make them look bad while doing it.

 

[Paul Spacey]

This is why I read the forum; it’s helpful and you get a wide range of views and opinions. Yeah we can all act like dicks and children sometimes (including me!) but outside of the politics, generally the info on here is intelligent and thoughtful.

On that note, I’ll ask for your help with a question. Are different areas of SoCal in different ‘phases’ as per Cal South’s RTP? Or are we all in phase 1 still? I read somewhere on here that SD clubs are saying they are in phase 2/3. Not sure if that’s correct?

Cal South sent out the RTP info to clubs a while back and there was a zoom call a couple weeks ago with the District Commissioner but we’ve not heard much since in terms of any official updates. Anyone have inside knowledge from CSL or SCDSL? I’m assuming unless things change in the next week or two, they will need to reassess their planned early Oct start dates.

Even as someone who essentially coaches for a living, I have to admit it’s tough keeping up with all of the news and constant changes. Thanks for the insight and info you guys continue to provide.

 

[Socal United]

This is why I read the forum; it’s helpful and you get a wide range of views and opinions. Yeah we can all act like dicks and children sometimes (including me!) but outside of the politics, generally the info on here is intelligent and thoughtful.

On that note, I’ll ask for your help with a question. Are different areas of SoCal in different ‘phases’ as per Cal South’s RTP? Or are we all in phase 1 still? I read somewhere on here that SD clubs are saying they are in phase 2/3. Not sure if that’s correct?

Cal South sent out the RTP info to clubs a while back and there was a zoom call a couple weeks ago with the District Commissioner but we’ve not heard much since in terms of any official updates. Anyone have inside knowledge from CSL or SCDSL? I’m assuming unless things change in the next week or two, they will need to reassess their planned early Oct start dates.

Even as someone who essentially coaches for a living, I have to admit it’s tough keeping up with all of the news and constant changes. Thanks for the insight and info you guys continue to provide.

Surf is in phase 3. The rest of the clubs in SD are in phase 1 still.

 

[Grace T.]

This is why I read the forum; it’s helpful and you get a wide range of views and opinions. Yeah we can all act like dicks and children sometimes (including me!) but outside of the politics, generally the info on here is intelligent and thoughtful.

On that note, I’ll ask for your help with a question. Are different areas of SoCal in different ‘phases’ as per Cal South’s RTP? Or are we all in phase 1 still? I read somewhere on here that SD clubs are saying they are in phase 2/3. Not sure if that’s correct?

Cal South sent out the RTP info to clubs a while back and there was a zoom call a couple weeks ago with the District Commissioner but we’ve not heard much since in terms of any official updates. Anyone have inside knowledge from CSL or SCDSL? I’m assuming unless things change in the next week or two, they will need to reassess their planned early Oct start dates.

Even as someone who essentially coaches for a living, I have to admit it’s tough keeping up with all of the news and constant changes. Thanks for the insight and info you guys continue to provide.

The State health order is the controlling document and it does not permit contact or scrimmages. It's not tiered (because otherwise the northern counties which have minimal COVID impact could otherwise start league in addition to schools) depending on how bad an outbreak is in the county. No rules for "contactless" scrimmages have been approved (e.g., Massachusetts).

So technically everyone is supposed to be in phase 1 except some places have moved beyond calling them "day camps". Phase 2 would allow scrimmages and sharing of equipment, neither of which is permitted under the state guidelines.