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tenacious said:
Okay, why don't we focus on the racism aspect of this. Since it sounds like its an area where we're in agreement.

Like straight up, people have the right not to be beaten up, harassed, killed, etc. ... by the police or really anyone. I'm sure you agree with that. So when these events happen, I believe we owe it to the families to have a speedy (but fair) trail at the very least. Obviously there needs to be civil reparations. Do you have any other ideas we could put in place to safe guard the black, and really all communities, from this sort of government encroachment on their rights?
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Civil reparations? Did George give reparations to the people he victimized? He was a violent felon in the commission of a felony when police tried to detain him. He resisted after a short time, forcing the cop's partner to run over and assist. I'm not excusing the knee... but that's what happened beforehand. I watched in on video. He refused to be cuffed and was yelling at the cop. You're right on this... they have a right to not be beaten up. And when they comply, they don't get beaten up. I can sit here all day and spit out names of black criminals that died because they decided to resist arrest. Black folks call them "victims". Then they block roads, set fires and loot. I don't. I don't have sympathy for any criminal that chooses to resist.

Other ideas? How about stop committing crimes? Is that reasonable? Here, this one is easier: If your dumb ass is caught committing a crime, you don't resist at all. You go to jail and have your day in court. You don't give a bad cop any excuses. This seems to be fairly standard logic for most. I don't see any other race having this issue, do you? Police shoot and kill twice as many whites every year. The FBI data I provided shows that. When George, or Eric Garner, who were both experienced criminals caught in the act, resist arrest... I find it harder to sympathize. When a criminal refuses to drop a knife or points a gun at cops when they arrive, I don't blame cops for that. Black people do. I've yet to see them NOT make excuses for this behavior. To me, that's racism. When you're automatically innocent because you're black and "he" is white, that's racism.
 
OUTLAW quote of the month:

“The fact that black people love to loot and only protest in support of violent, black criminals...”
 
messy said:
OUTLAW quote of the month:

“The fact that black people love to loot and only protest in support of violent, black criminals...”
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How about "a race refuses to ever accept responsibility". What kind of person thinks "a race" does anything?

I'll give you a hint - it ends with "ist".
 
Imtired said:
Yes, because an 89-year old woman (who is so hard of hearing he couldn't be interviewed for the 2016 article) is DEFINITELY going to run out and try to find people to sign those ballots!!! How very clever to mail all of those ballots to an elderly shut-in and leave them out in the open too!

From the very same article:

In a statement, the office of the Registrar said, “We are carefully reviewing our records and gathering information to fully identify what took place. Our preliminary assessment is that this appears to be an isolated situation related to a system error that occurred causing duplicate ballots to be issued to an address entered for a single voter. We are working directly with the system vendor to ensure the issue is addressed and to identify any similar occurrences.”

But, by all means, let's ignore the real fraud that happened in North Carolina, fraud perpetrated by GOP operatives trying to help heir GOP candidate win.

www.npr.org

North Carolina GOP Operative Faces New Felony Charges That Allege Ballot Fraud

Leslie McCrae Dowless is accused of leading a scheme to illegally collect, sign and mail in absentee ballots. An investigation into allegations of fraud overturned a 2018 congressional race.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
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You appear to be hanging your hat on "appears". Good luck with that.
 
tenacious said:
I would think if the race is close enough for 83 ballots to matter, there will be a recount whereby not only would ballots being sent to non-existent address would be caught... but the hand signed ballots would also give investigators a better chance at catching the perpetrators then a computer based election where there isn't a paper trail?

Note, I'm not saying there won't be folks who try to game the system. Only that there will be people who try and game the system no matter what- and I don't know why mail in ballots leaves us more vulnerable?
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Are you for or against showing an ID to vote?
 
espola said:
How about "a race refuses to ever accept responsibility". What kind of person thinks "a race" does anything?

I'll give you a hint - it ends with "ist".
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I know... if you call black people out on the "content of their character", like burning down cities in retaliation for one of the felons they're most proud of, it's racist. Well, tough fucking shit.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
Well this isn’t gonna help.
www.dailywire.com

Medical Examiner: No Evidence George Floyd Died Of Strangulation; ‘Underlying Conditions,’ ‘Potential Intoxicants’ Likely Factors

On Friday, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner issued a report saying a preliminary autopsy showed no evidence that George Floyd died of strangulation and traumatic asphyxia.Floyd’s arrest was captured on video and went viral earlier this week. During the incident, at least one officer is seen...
www.dailywire.com www.dailywire.com
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It won't matter... they aren't smart enough to care. It's an opportunity for them to steal and riot.
 
Torros said:
Are you for or against showing an ID to vote?
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Do I think having 90 year old volunteers at the polling stations checking IDs will make the system "safer" then mail in ballots? Honestly no.
We pay a lot to educate people, and handwritten signatures are unique. Adds up to mail in ballots to me.
 
tenacious said:
Do I think having 90 year old volunteers at the polling stations checking IDs will make the system "safer" then mail in ballots? Honestly no.
We pay a lot to educate people, and handwritten signatures are unique. Adds up to mail in ballots to me.
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Mail in ballots are fine. Probably the best way to deal with Covid in November.
 
The Outlaw said:
Civil reparations? Did George give reparations to the people he victimized? He was a violent felon in the commission of a felony when police tried to detain him. He resisted after a short time, forcing the cop's partner to run over and assist. I'm not excusing the knee... but that's what happened beforehand. I watched in on video. He refused to be cuffed and was yelling at the cop. You're right on this... they have a right to not be beaten up. And when they comply, they don't get beaten up. I can sit here all day and spit out names of black criminals that died because they decided to resist arrest. Black folks call them "victims". Then they block roads, set fires and loot. I don't. I don't have sympathy for any criminal that chooses to resist.

Other ideas? How about stop committing crimes? Is that reasonable? Here, this one is easier: If your dumb ass is caught committing a crime, you don't resist at all. You go to jail and have your day in court. You don't give a bad cop any excuses. This seems to be fairly standard logic for most. I don't see any other race having this issue, do you? Police shoot and kill twice as many whites every year. The FBI data I provided shows that. When George, or Eric Garner, who were both experienced criminals caught in the act, resist arrest... I find it harder to sympathize. When a criminal refuses to drop a knife or points a gun at cops when they arrive, I don't blame cops for that. Black people do. I've yet to see them NOT make excuses for this behavior. To me, that's racism. When you're automatically innocent because you're black and "he" is white, that's racism.
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Okay, and I think it will come as no surprise that I disagree. President Trump has claimed unfair persecution by law enforcement. I remember the rightwing tea party guys took over a national park in Oregon. Yet when it comes to blacks... your claim that the problem is the black people; is repugnant to my ethical sensibilities and I absolutely disagree with you.
Seems to me we need to take so time to evaluate what the protocol is when there are claims of abuse by law enforcement. From the President on down, how do we ensure free, fair and open justice. At that very least.

However, I will go as far as noting mayor in charge of the police force is a Progressive with a positive track record of advancing minority issues.. and still the city burned. All that progressive outreach added up to exactly nothing is a sobering to think about.
 
tenacious said:
Okay, and I think it will come as no surprise that I disagree. President Trump has claimed unfair persecution by law enforcement. I remember the rightwing tea party guys took over a national park in Oregon. Yet when it comes to blacks... your claim that the problem is the black people; is repugnant to my ethical sensibilities and I absolutely disagree with you.
Seems to me we need to take so time to evaluate what the protocol is when there are claims of abuse by law enforcement. From the President on down, how do we ensure free, fair and open justice. At that very least.

However, I will go as far as noting mayor in charge of the police force is a Progressive with a positive track record of advancing minority issues.. and still the city burned. All that progressive outreach added up to exactly nothing is a sobering to think about.
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Karens gonna Karen. Your last sentence reminds me of that. Not sure of the political value for a local progressive official to attack racism in law enforcement. Historically it's the Feds who come in and try to change it up with prosecutions. Sadly and as you hint, we don't see it as an effective campaign strategy with a guy like Mayor Pete (although it was forced upon him) and this seemingly cool MPLS mayor. Might scare off Karen (and I mean even "liberal" Karen like that Central Park wack job) that her mayoral candidate is campaigning to undermine her safety that the police provide against the big black monsters.
 
tenacious said:
Okay, and I think it will come as no surprise that I disagree. President Trump has claimed unfair persecution by law enforcement. I remember the rightwing tea party guys took over a national park in Oregon. Yet when it comes to blacks... your claim that the problem is the black people; is repugnant to my ethical sensibilities and I absolutely disagree with you.
Seems to me we need to take so time to evaluate what the protocol is when there are claims of abuse by law enforcement. From the President on down, how do we ensure free, fair and open justice. At that very least.

However, I will go as far as noting mayor in charge of the police force is a Progressive with a positive track record of advancing minority issues.. and still the city burned. All that progressive outreach added up to exactly nothing is a sobering to think about.
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They ain't looking at the mayor they're looking at the guy taking a knee . . . and now all the pent up frustration is exploding. That and outside agitators are escalating things way beyond a protest, they want to incite violence and foment chaos.
 
The Outlaw said:
I know... if you call black people out on the "content of their character", like burning down cities in retaliation for one of the felons they're most proud of, it's racist. Well, tough fucking shit.
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You didn't call anyone out, you blamed "a race".

That's about as blatant as it gets, Herr Geächtete.
 
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