What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?
- Thread starter gkmom
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Anyone else see the post that Surf Cup is on for August 7-9 for older girls? Older Boys are scheduled even earlier, August 1-3. Are they crazy? Full crazy games for kids who have not had games since March. It's all about the money for them $$$ even though they say it is to get players in front of coaches. Youngers don't need it yet they are also scheduled later in the month.
CDC's best guess was .26% with a range of .1 to .8%. New York study was .8% but the nursing home outbreak skews the death count higher (Please don't cite Stanford at me...it's been widely shown to be flawed). France was .7%. The Italy study released a few weeks ago was .65%. The Spain was the worst one at 1.1%. Given all that, and given the nursing home problem which has skewed the death count upward, my best guess is somewhere between .4%-.9%.
To put it in perspective, that means if you catch it you have a better than 99% chance of surviving. It is anywhere from 4x-9x deadlier than the flu. If you are a child, you have a better chance of surviving it than the flu. For the old, it gets much more risky around age 65 and then increases severely in risk with age. For everyone else, it's about on par for the flu (slightly less for the younger, slightly worse for the older up to 65).
To put it in perspective, that means if you catch it you have a better than 99% chance of surviving. It is anywhere from 4x-9x deadlier than the flu. If you are a child, you have a better chance of surviving it than the flu. For the old, it gets much more risky around age 65 and then increases severely in risk with age. For everyone else, it's about on par for the flu (slightly less for the younger, slightly worse for the older up to 65).
There may never be a vaccine just like so many other viruses. Life goes on. You don't have to send your kids to any tournaments. There are a lot of people that would. You can take the year off. There are lots of people out there that are ready to play right now specially at higher levels. All they need to do is sign a waiver and get going. The chances of kids getting very sick from this virus is less than getting hurt in an accident.
Cal south CRL for olders play in is even earlier in July out on Norco where it's 100 so yeah putting there interests first without even published back to play guidelines
Realistically I just don't see a large tournament happening that soon
You don't need to "see it" or "believe it" for the tournament to happen. For parents who aren't comfortable, they can keep their kids home. The parents who are comfortable can attend the tournaments. As more and more data come out there is going to be less and less ground to stand for counties and cities to tell business's they can't operate. If they are opening the beaches than they can open Surf Cup
I took some time to go back and read, "posts from the past." Most of the GDA folks who loved to travel all over the country and "pay so they can make sure dd starts 25% of the games and play all the time" are some of the same people who now want soccer stopped at all cost. It's interesting and revealing all in one.
I think it has more to do with not losing prestige to Silver Lakes. If they gave olders a short weekend with fewer scouts, they would lose more top teams to the other tournament. So they are trying to be nice to you guys.
If it were money, they probably get more money from youngers. There are more of us, and we bring more adults when we travel. Besides, grandpa’s wallet opens wider for the first Surf Cup than the fifth.
The unfortunate reality, though, is this has become political, and even wrapped up with the presidential election, and for those of us who'd like to see soccer go forward, we live in a blue state. The question is whether a) as we open up, things don't turn noticeably worse, and b) whether pressure can be brought to bear from other countries/states/counties opening up so that people complain. How "bad" the virus is and the science behind all this is almost a side show (with some Republicans saying no masks ever, and some Democrats saying masks everywhere even when outside and exercising). Kid's soccer is now just a pawn in the political game, and I really don't know what's going to happen, but I do believe large tournaments with large crowds and out of state guests are probably not going to be allowed in California (if it happens, it will be scaled back).
gotothebushes
GOLD
Time to let the shinny happy people out to test the waters. Everyone else stay home through Summer, Fall and Winter. I promise to find a way to deliver food and essentials to everyone who feels the need to stay home. Lighten up people and put a smile on your face and get happy 
It's not about me and what I do or don't want to see, or a choice to just keep your kid home if you don't like it. It's about permits, insurance, legislation logistics, timelines, etc.etc. It's highly unlikely that will happen by the beginning of August.
My friend's dd tested positive and worked at a place in OC. I won;t mention names but the whole company didn;t go on a 14 day go home orders. I guess youth sports is over until we get more information. People will be tested more and more and this will only get worse.
While I agree 100% with your sentiment, its not up to citizens to choose, its solely up to our politicians (ultimately Newsom) to allow. Over a week ago, SD County sent Newsom a list of activities to accelerate reopening (ie Phase 3 activities to be reopened in current Phase 2). All of the activities have been approved by Newsom with the exception of the request to reopen youth sports training (not to exceed 12 players). I'd be very surprised to see the Surf Cup happen at the beginning of August, but I hope I'm wrong.
SoccerGuru
SILVER ELITE
Why is it highly unlikely? Is that your opinion or do you have facts to support it? CRL has scheduled games in August and surf cup is happening in August as well. CRL is run by Cal South and surf wouldn't put on the tournament if they didn't have the logistics, timelines, permits, insurance, etc. down. So it seems like this is your opinion?
What Watfly said
The beach being open is not a fair comparison. Running a large tournament like Surf Cup with food and beverage and kids playing a contact sport with full sidelines is not the same as families physical distancing on the beach. A tournament is probably closer to a county fair, which have all been cancelled.
It also might not be an issue of families choosing but it not actually being allowed to happen.
Another thing they might have is disaster insurance - expenses covered if they have to cancel.