What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?

jpeter said:
Surf trying by delaying until August:
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"After careful consideration, acknowledgment of the phased re-opening and input from our partners, government officials, and college coaches, the decision has been made to change the dates for our Summer Surf Cup events"

So close to Man City cup in Sept , moved already from memorial so wonder how this might play out?

Cal south didn't sound so sure with this week's reminder email about the continued suspension and state stay at home orders. Although there new president says he's working to get things back open.
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This is interesting, considering it will actually happen.....is Surf Cup will be a local tournament this year? Will they drop hotel stay requirement?
I truly believe team training (full contact) and games will resume before August, but travel and hotels may still be an issue for traveling teams.
 
Eagle33 said:
This is interesting, considering it will actually happen.....is Surf Cup will be a local tournament this year? Will they drop hotel stay requirement?
I truly believe team training (full contact) and games will resume before August, but travel and hotels may still be an issue for traveling teams.
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Surf also becomes 4 games instead of 5. That's not enough for 4 groups plus playoffs.

Either it is single elimination, or it is only 8 teams.

Travel is also worse for coaches. The out of area coaches are looking at 2 trips instead of 1.
 
Chalklines said:
Ventura & SB should be close behind with their low numbers
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dad4 said:
Surf also becomes 4 games instead of 5. That's not enough for 4 groups plus playoffs.

Either it is single elimination, or it is only 8 teams.

Travel is also worse for coaches. The out of area coaches are looking at 2 trips instead of 1.
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Showcase format instead of playoffs now likely

Surf burned clubs for the Thanksgiving event, with a couple of 20 min half games on wet fields so hopefully this is not another money grab.

75% or something like that stated said they are unlikely to travel any time soon. D1 is back to preseason training by then if things open up so not sure how many non local types will actually show?

Seems like a gamble and surf is taking on some risks in this one but maybe they can pull it off? With the new timeline 20-21 cards will be required so USclub players & teams should be fine but Cal South ones have to get back open and insured. Some assuming going I guess hoping things will get resolved in time.
 
jpeter said:
Surf burned clubs for the Thanksgiving event, with a couple of 20 min half games on wet fields so hopefully this is not another money grab.
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Surf or any other tournament that gets rained out didn't burn anybody. All tournaments state in the rules what happens when weather interferes. Read the rules before you sign up for a tournament. If you don't like them, don't play in them, but all tournaments have basically the same weather rules. Surf is an impressive club, but they don't control the weather and they can't instantly provide turf fields when it rains. When you sign up for a tournament (or a league for that matter) you are gambling on the weather. All tournaments are money grabs, that is why they exist.
 
outside! said:
Surf or any other tournament that gets rained out didn't burn anybody. All tournaments state in the rules what happens when weather interferes. Read the rules before you sign up for a tournament. If you don't like them, don't play in them, but all tournaments have basically the same weather rules. Surf is an impressive club, but they don't control the weather and they can't instantly provide turf fields when it rains. When you sign up for a tournament (or a league for that matter) you are gambling on the weather. All tournaments are money grabs, that is why they exist.
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To your point, Surf actually did accommodate at least some games on wet fields. Other tournaments would not do that.
 
jpeter said:
Showcase format instead of playoffs now likely

Surf burned clubs for the Thanksgiving event, with a couple of 20 min half games on wet fields so hopefully this is not another money grab.

75% or something like that stated said they are unlikely to travel any time soon. D1 is back to preseason training by then if things open up so not sure how many non local types will actually show?

Seems like a gamble and surf is taking on some risks in this one but maybe they can pull it off? With the new timeline 20-21 cards will be required so USclub players & teams should be fine but Cal South ones have to get back open and insured. Some assuming going I guess hoping things will get resolved in time.
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can you define what a showcase format is? And are they likely to apply it it youngers?

Most of the tournaments I have seen are still group stage + playoffs.
 
Eagle33 said:
To your point, Surf actually did accommodate at least some games on wet fields. Other tournaments would not do that.
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Wasn't involved or had a team in but the feedback I received was clubs & teams felt shorted or burned they way it was handled. 2 games total for 40 minutes each on wet fields seems like a bunch of money and time spent for basically one full game.

Weather was forecasted correctly and they know the complex fields don't drain well but still insisted on playing and didn't have any alternative dates or backup plans so yes those that sign up are assumption some of the risks but I think I would not be happy to travel for one game but pay for 3.
 
dad4 said:
Surf also becomes 4 games instead of 5. That's not enough for 4 groups plus playoffs.

Either it is single elimination, or it is only 8 teams.

Travel is also worse for coaches. The out of area coaches are looking at 2 trips instead of 1.
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I mean this in the politest way possible, who cares! The coaches stay and per diem are paid for by the team. This will finally get the kids out of the house and some activity in a sport they all like or love playing. Spending time with their friends at the hotel, making memories, having some games. It honestly doesn't matter how many games they play, win or lose, it will just be good to see them out there. After the past 2-3 months, that sounds great.
 
dad4 said:
can you define what a showcase format is? And are they likely to apply it it youngers?

Most of the tournaments I have seen are still group stage + playoffs.
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4 games total each team regardless of outcome or standings.

Last game of the 4:matchups determined by the standing: 1v2, 3v4, etc. No traditional playoffs: quarters, semi, etc.
 
I am hearing a lot of teams will resume June 1st.

Also, can anyone from blues or surf explain how Man city cup (moved to labor day weekend) and blues cup (has always been labor day weekend) are on the same days and claim they are using the same fields? I am just curious how that will work?
 
SoccerGuru said:
I mean this in the politest way possible, who cares! The coaches stay and per diem are paid for by the team. This will finally get the kids out of the house and some activity in a sport they all like or love playing. Spending time with their friends at the hotel, making memories, having some games. It honestly doesn't matter how many games they play, win or lose, it will just be good to see them out there. After the past 2-3 months, that sounds great.
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It may change whether it makes sense to do Surf or play up at a local tournament.

A lot to be said for sleeping in your own bed.
 
SoccerGuru said:
I am hearing a lot of teams will resume June 1st.

Also, can anyone from blues or surf explain how Man city cup (moved to labor day weekend) and blues cup (has always been labor day weekend) are on the same days and claim they are using the same fields? I am just curious how that will work?
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My guess (and it's only that) is Blues will use Oceanside and Man City will use Polo fields. Both tournaments will be significantly smaller due to decreased number of out of State teams.
 
SoccerGuru said:
I am hearing a lot of teams will resume June 1st.

Also, can anyone from blues or surf explain how Man city cup (moved to labor day weekend) and blues cup (has always been labor day weekend) are on the same days and claim they are using the same fields? I am just curious how that will work?
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That might be a real possibility in San Diego and Ventura counties, socially distanced and if you aren't practicing at a school site. Los Angeles, San Bernardino and Riverside still a big no. OC who knows. Governor isn't exactly inclined to give the OC the same waiver to move to phase 3 as Ventura after the beach stunt (Ventura, despite its screaming residents, is still playing ball on the beaches and the governor was embarassed by the OC...might be a few weeks still).
 
SoccerGuru said:
I am hearing a lot of teams will resume June 1st.

Also, can anyone from blues or surf explain how Man city cup (moved to labor day weekend) and blues cup (has always been labor day weekend) are on the same days and claim they are using the same fields? I am just curious how that will work?
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Hearing from what?

San Diego county might have some phase 1 training starting in June if the governor signs off on there pilot request since group gatherings are currently slated in phase 3. Rest of the counties haven't indicated any such plans or restart for youth sports gatherings.

Cal South would have to make a announced to resume June 1st. So far that hasn't happened and usys has a 4 phase plan that will take months to implement like what AZ has done.
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lafalafa said:
Hearing from what?

San Diego county might have some phase 1 training starting in June if the governor signs off on there pilot request since group gatherings are currently slated in phase 3. Rest of the counties haven't indicated any such plans or restart for youth sports gatherings.

Cal South would have to make a announced to resume June 1st. So far that hasn't happened and usys has a 4 phase plan that will take months to implement like what AZ has done.
www.soccertoday.com

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Mama bears out in force :) I will buy my wife some Ray Bands and make sure our new car has a sunroof so she can stick her head out to watch.
 
chiefs said:
Do you know that common sense shows that 7500 deaths occur daily in America? The peak death week with the China Virus is approximately 14k-15k/or just above 2k daily.
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People make choices - to drive drunk, drive too fast, have unsecured weapons, to swim out too far in the ocean when they are not skilled swimmers, to smoke, to skateboard and ride bikes without helmets, to leave pool gates open, etc. etc. This virus is highly contagious, and knows no bounds, it does not give you a choice when ACE2 receptors allow entry of the virus to attach to your lungs, liver, kidneys, blood vessels and gastrointestinal tract or heart. Imagine if you will, that there has been a plane crash this morning with all 300 people on board being killed. Terrible and tragic. Now imagine a plane like that crashing every day for the last 317 days! That is how many people have died in the US since the middle of January from covid and covid related complications. Hopefully, we will eventually develop a vaccine. Our information on how to treat patients is improving every week and if there is a second wave in the fall/winter everyone will be better prepared.
 
MamaBear5 said:
If the virus is not imparting immunity, the vaccine will not impart immunity. Just FYI..... A vaccine uses destroyed (simplistic term), "dead" (simplistic term) or in some cases living virus to make the body have an antibody response without actually contracting the disease. The one US vaccine entering stage 2 trials this week states an antibody response on par with those recovered from covid.
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Info only, Trump awarded a huge sum of money to a company called Moderna. This company has never brought a vaccine to market and has never even brought a product to the third and final phase of clinical trial. Bottom line, don't bet your life savings on the slick talking head of Moderna and what he says he can do. It would be great if by some miracle the company does make it through all the trials and get FDA approval.
 
lafalafa said:
Hearing from what?

San Diego county might have some phase 1 training starting in June if the governor signs off on there pilot request since group gatherings are currently slated in phase 3. Rest of the counties haven't indicated any such plans or restart for youth sports gatherings.

Cal South would have to make a announced to resume June 1st. So far that hasn't happened and usys has a 4 phase plan that will take months to implement like what AZ has done.
www.soccertoday.com

AS YOUTH SOCCER PLAYERS RETURN TO PLAY, PARENTS RESPECT PROTOCOLS • SoccerToday

SoccerToday - Voice of American Soccer
www.soccertoday.com www.soccertoday.com
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I thought if you were ECNL, ECRL, GAL or DPL then cal south is meaningless to you? If you have a younger that plays scdsl or something like that I know cal south has some say but i don't believe they have any say on those other leagues right?
 
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