Some data on Covid-19 and why we're not over reacting...

Imtired said:
See? That's why it's so hard to figure out the best way to fight this thing. Sarcastic comments that add nothing to the conversation. At least Ricky, who is no fan of mine I'm sure, gave a reasoned answer.

I believe Ricky was referring to antibody testing. Antibody testing will give us a better idea of who has already been infected. Many scientists are thinking it's much much higher than we think (which is good news because it means less are at risk AND the death rate is much lower).

Right now we simply don't know how widespread it is, we don't know how fast it's spreading (not enough tests to see if someone is sick with it), and so we're left with officials who want to err on the side of caution. The more we know, the easier it is to figure out how to open up safely and quickly. Period.
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That was a serious question, you can get a negative test today and have it tomorrow, right?
 
Ricky Fandango said:
Stop watching the msm and live your life.
I dont have a mask, and work every day. If I have to go in the bank or the store I pull my shirt over my face and get by.
Its ridiculous, and so obviously a political shit show that it boggles my mind everyone doesn't see it.
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?? Not sure your point ? It's great you can work every day, but I have friends -- many -- who have lost their jobs due to COVID-19. One has a spouse who has been on the heart transplant list for 2 years now. She is their sole source of income and has 2 kids so politics doesn't mean a f*cking thing to her. Oh, and I should mention that her husband is a huge Trump supporter. I don't care, I see the pain both are living through and I want to see this f*cking thing end for everyone.

You say it's a political shitshow and you don't know why everyone can't see it. Everyone sees it.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
That was a serious question, you can get a negative test today and have it tomorrow, right?
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Yes, that's true when you talk about tests for active infections. But antibody testing will give us a better view into how many have already been infected. A snapshot in time so to speak. If we think it's 10% of the population, but with antibody testing we find out it's more like 30%, look at what that does to the mortality rate. It also gives important information on how many will be vulnerable if this thing hits again in the fall. How close are we to herd immunity?

I think I already posted this but I'm almost 100% positive my daughter (19) had COVID-19 in January. She was extremely fatigued, fever, dry cough, and a slight wheeze. Going into the second week she visited the school clinic. She tested negative for flu, negative for mono. The clinic gave her a chest x-ray because "we're seeing this weird respiratory virus going around". This was before any "official" COVID-19 cases were identified in the US. Well, if she was sick with COVID-19, how many more were sick at her campus?
 
Imtired said:
?? Not sure your point ? It's great you can work every day, but I have friends -- many -- who have lost their jobs due to COVID-19. One has a spouse who has been on the heart transplant list for 2 years now. She is their sole source of income and has 2 kids so politics doesn't mean a f*cking thing to her. Oh, and I should mention that her husband is a huge Trump supporter. I don't care, I see the pain both are living through and I want to see this f*cking thing end for everyone.

You say it's a political shitshow and you don't know why everyone can't see it. Everyone sees it.
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Looks like we agree.
The cure is worse than the disease, and the disease has more to do with politics than anything else.
Its a very contagious virus in so many ways.
You must have read my posts concerning what this lockdown has done to my barber and restaurant/bar owners I know losing everything, and my cigar shop guy who is out of business.
Im with you.
We're in this together.
Lets end it, because our governor and aunt Nancy want to carry this thing on until we all go down with the ship.
 
Imtired said:
Yes, that's true when you talk about tests for active infections. But antibody testing will give us a better view into how many have already been infected. A snapshot in time so to speak. If we think it's 10% of the population, but with antibody testing we find out it's more like 30%, look at what that does to the mortality rate. It also gives important information on how many will be vulnerable if this thing hits again in the fall. How close are we to herd immunity?

I think I already posted this but I'm almost 100% positive my daughter (19) had COVID-19 in January. She was extremely fatigued, fever, dry cough, and a slight wheeze. Going into the second week she visited the school clinic. She tested negative for flu, negative for mono. The clinic gave her a chest x-ray because "we're seeing this weird respiratory virus going around". This was before any "official" COVID-19 cases were identified in the US. Well, if she was sick with COVID-19, how many more were sick at her campus?
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Why haven’t you had her tested?
 
Ricky Fandango said:
Looks like we agree.
The cure is worse than the disease, and the disease has more to do with politics than anything else.
Its a very contagious virus in so many ways.
You must have read my posts concerning what this lockdown has done to my barber and restaurant/bar owners I know losing everything, and my cigar shop guy who is out of business.
Im with you.
We're in this together.
Lets end it, because our governor and aunt Nancy want to carry this thing on until we all go down with the ship.
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I don't agree with your last point, lots of "red state" governors made similar decisions (let's just keep politics out for once, even if it requires we both have an aneurysm by trying to keep our mouths shut). I think all officials, regardless of party, are doing whatever they think is best and no one really knows what that is. I also know those same officials, regardless of party, don't have to worry about their next paycheck.

I come on this board because I like hearing both sides. I don't ever want to be stuck in my own echo chamber and only hear things that I agree with. But if ever there is a time for people to drop their agendas and--FOR ONCE--focus on the problem at hand it's now. When the coronavirus is over we can go back to hurling insults and telling each other how f*cking stupid we are.

Gotta go, I'm hearing kumbayah in my head now.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
This is worth a read,
Turns out this horrible model that locked us down is not the first time this British cheating fuck was wrong.

Neil Ferguson's Coronavirus Imperial College Model -- ‘Professor Lockdown’ Resigns in Disgrace | National Review

www.nationalreview.com
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Sweden did the opposite but the architect of that response (not locking down) says he's not sure it was the right call. So who knows. Sweden's economy took just as big of a hit as countries that sheltered in place, but that isn't surprising since everything is a global economy these days anyway.

www.businessinsider.com

The architect of Sweden's decision not to have a coronavirus lockdown says he still isn't sure it was the right call

Sweden introduced few rules and left places like parks and restaurants open, but its death toll is much higher than neighboring countries'.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
 
Lion Eyes said:
As soon as possible ass wipe...you opposed to that? Think about it Magoo...
Better to get a vaccine asap rather than say two years from now...ponder it while you're in isolation because of underlying conditions, old age and senility.

SAN FRANCISCO -- Founders of the program 1 Day Sooner, a group comprised of scientists and researchers, hope to be purposefully infected with novel coronavirus, along with other volunteers to help search for a vaccine.

Some 13,000 people from 100 different countries have already signed up to participate in the initiative.

"Researchers are exploring whether human challenge trials could speed up the development of a vaccine for COVID-19, saving thousands or even millions of lives,"
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So what are you whining about then?
 
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