Nor Cal GDA Teams - What's Next

soccer4us said:
If true, going to be challenging to get enough games for Nor Cal teams without flying. Only 3 teams that would be unless some NPL clubs join in. Will be interesting how that unfolds. Same can be said for WA and OR teams as well. Pending if any Nor Cal teams get into ECNL, it may be too difficult to have enough teams to join that new league.

Is it confirmed anywhere SJ Quakes is shitting down girls program? Or is it still just talk?

In general this DAL is a solid option once flying is allowed and safe. Some areas it's more challenging and other areas it will be similar to what DA travel was.
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Can't imagine any top club in NorCal going to another new league that prohibits HS soccer when the prior league that prohibited HS soccer and was backed by US Soccer did not really work out for the vast majority of the kids. I can think of a number of clubs who might jump at being included and will do a mighty job in selling to their members and the surrounding communities, just as clubs have done in the past as new platforms come online. But unless the new league includes the stronger (year in, year out) ECNL clubs, the teams that are participating will not be that competitive outside of this region and those teams will take an approach of making offers to a ton of players and using their master communication skills to convince the kids (and, more importantly, their parents) of the benefits of the new platform. And before those parents - especially if the player is the oldest child in the family or the first who is seen as a "competitive" player - realize that they have been had, they will have dropped $$$ and not really done much to improve the player's skill, exposure, opportunities. At least not much compared to other, less expensive avenues or other, as expensive (or more) avenues that actually are more impactful.
 
dk_b said:
Can't imagine any top club in NorCal going to another new league that prohibits HS soccer when the prior league that prohibited HS soccer and was backed by US Soccer did not really work out for the vast majority of the kids. I can think of a number of clubs who might jump at being included and will do a mighty job in selling to their members and the surrounding communities, just as clubs have done in the past as new platforms come online. But unless the new league includes the stronger (year in, year out) ECNL clubs, the teams that are participating will not be that competitive outside of this region and those teams will take an approach of making offers to a ton of players and using their master communication skills to convince the kids (and, more importantly, their parents) of the benefits of the new platform. And before those parents - especially if the player is the oldest child in the family or the first who is seen as a "competitive" player - realize that they have been had, they will have dropped $$$ and not really done much to improve the player's skill, exposure, opportunities. At least not much compared to other, less expensive avenues or other, as expensive (or more) avenues that actually are more impactful.
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I believe on actual league website or announcement they said HS soccer was OK. But, it seems like you have the DOC"s of many clubs saying nope, 10 month season and go. If true, more BS going on.
 
soccer4us said:
If true, going to be challenging to get enough games for Nor Cal teams without flying. Only 3 teams that would be unless some NPL clubs join in. Will be interesting how that unfolds. Same can be said for WA and OR teams as well. Pending if any Nor Cal teams get into ECNL, it may be too difficult to have enough teams to join that new league.

Is it confirmed anywhere SJ Quakes is shitting down girls program? Or is it still just talk?

In general this DAL is a solid option once flying is allowed and safe. Some areas it's more challenging and other areas it will be similar to what DA travel was.
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Flying is so much better than being stuck on the I5 in California for three or four hours.
 
soccer4us said:
I believe on actual league website or announcement they said HS soccer was OK. But, it seems like you have the DOC"s of many clubs saying nope, 10 month season and go. If true, more BS going on.
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Midwest division of GAL seems to have caved on the "high school will be allowed" promise of the initial pitch by DPL/GAL... perhaps it is the issue causing clubs in the northwest to hold up their joining GAL announcement. I had heard it was a done deal... maybe not! ...and if it is over the hs prohibition, good! GDA failed once, in large part, over that restriction. Are we really going to watch the same movie play out over the next 2-3 years with this GAL league?
 
ChalkOnYourBoots said:
Midwest division of GAL seems to have caved on the "high school will be allowed" promise of the initial pitch by DPL/GAL... perhaps it is the issue causing clubs in the northwest to hold up their joining GAL announcement. I had heard it was a done deal... maybe not! ...and if it is over the hs prohibition, good! GDA failed once, in large part, over that restriction. Are we really going to watch the same movie play out over the next 2-3 years with this GAL league?
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I don’t know all the ins and outs of what’s going on, but I don’t think HS discussion has anything to do with any delays. Any delays are just due to waiting on ECNL application feedback.
 
ChalkOnYourBoots said:
Midwest division of GAL seems to have caved on the "high school will be allowed" promise of the initial pitch by DPL/GAL... perhaps it is the issue causing clubs in the northwest to hold up their joining GAL announcement. I had heard it was a done deal... maybe not! ...and if it is over the hs prohibition, good! GDA failed once, in large part, over that restriction. Are we really going to watch the same movie play out over the next 2-3 years with this GAL league?
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Yes
 
Culmu said:
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Hearing through the grapevine Thorns will be accepted into ECNL. Haven't heard anything regarding other clubs. I always thought one more would be added to the South Bay but we'll see if it's made public soon or just another rumor.
 
soccer4us said:
Hearing through the grapevine Thorns will be accepted into ECNL. Haven't heard anything regarding other clubs. I always thought one more would be added to the South Bay but we'll see if it's made public soon or just another rumor.
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All 3 DA teams in NorCal have applied but no team has been accepted yet. Heard the club had a meeting last night and no word if ECNL will accept them.
 
soccer4us said:
Hearing through the grapevine Thorns will be accepted into ECNL. Haven't heard anything regarding other clubs. I always thought one more would be added to the South Bay but we'll see if it's made public soon or just another rumor.
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The grapevine is ripe with rumor these days. Thorns is the old Force?
 
ECNL should probably think about booting Rage and adding Lamorinda in the East Bay (not saying they will...they just should consider it). Rage has been somewhat reduced to a feeder for Mustang as they aren't run as well and the geographical proximity to Mustang even during rush hours makes it easy for players to choose either. Lamorinda almost never loses players to Mustang for soccer reasons (usually only if a player/parent gets really pissed over something). Over the past couple of years Rage has been losing players not only to Mustang but also the lamorinda DA teams. That is not good.

While lamorinda is geographically almost as close to Mustang they are really far apart time-wise during rush hour traffic (when kids practice!) and they are positioned to make a more logical division of East bay players. Makes way more sense for Mustang to draw from regions south of their location (since they already do despite having Rage right there) down the 680 corridor and then east towards Livermore/Tracy and west towards Hayward/Castro Valley. Lamorinda would draw from their own area and then west into Oakland/Berkeley/Richmond and north to Benicia/Vallejo. Players in the Walnut Creek/Concord area could choose either with similar travel times. Essentially this would put two ECNL teams positioned in such a way that one or the other is reasonably reachable by the majority of the East Bay at commute times. Only issue for lamorinda is their size (they are really small) as they already have like 3 other soccer organization sharing their small area.
 
gotothebushes said:
All 3 DA teams in NorCal have applied but no team has been accepted yet. Heard the club had a meeting last night and no word if ECNL will accept them.
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There were 4 DA teams in the "Bay Area" -- Lamorinda is a nice little club, but I am not sure how they were accepted into DA; although their older age group last year and this were good. The younger ages were struggling it seemed like.
 
youthsportsugh said:
There were 4 DA teams in the "Bay Area" -- Lamorinda is a nice little club, but I am not sure how they were accepted into DA; although their older age group last year and this were good. The younger ages were struggling it seemed like.
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From my perspective, similar in many ways to PSV - good quality and training, short numbers.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
From my perspective, similar in many ways to PSV - good quality and training, short numbers.
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That's a good comparison.

While Lamorinda has had a few nice teams, Rage is still a much bigger club. I do agree Rage has fell off in recent Tims but they aren't being kicked out. I don't think Lamorinda has the best reputation with other clubs. For any club to get into ECNL in the East Bay, you better have a decent relationship with Mustang unless you're a very good club talent/coaches wise.
 
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