College Entrance Scam includes former Yale Women's Soccer Coach

Zerodenero said:
OCan- without digging in too deep into the supplemental intel re ucla ....how different is the above from ivys using the academic index to round out their annual incoming recruits?
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Not much different...though my guess, and purely a guess, would be that the GPA's at Ivy's don't have to be pulled up by "Boosters" as far as those at UCLA.
 
oh canada said:
thanks for posting...after reading this excerpt below, i'm thinking that's also why we haven't heard anything more from the LA Times public records request issued last summer:

Mr. Salcedo served public records requests on both UCLA and UC Regents to no avail. Determined to prevent public disclosure of this blockbuster evidence, UCLA has stonewalled the defense, producing minimal documents and interposing a litany of objections. It has even tried to hide behind the government’s “ongoing criminal investigation” as an excuse for non-production.

And, never knew this was a thing..."GPA Boosters"...if Salcedo's lawyers get the docs they want, this could be a real sh*t show for UCLA:

UCLA has struggled with low APRs and risks being banned from post-season competition. UCLA’s May 2019 APR report, which includes data for academic years 2014 through 2018, reveals low multi-year APRs for several sports, including men’s basketball, football, and men’s soccer (Exs. 5, 6).4 Once again, UCLA has been able to resort to its student-athlete admissions practice to address this vital issue. The Athletic Department has admitted non-athletes whose academic performances helped raise their teams’ GPAs. Often known as GPA boosters, these students typically fill spots from the bottom of the roster and are from affluent families who donate to UCLA’s athletic programs. While these students generally do not meet UCLA’s academic admissions standards, their scholastic skills tend to be much higher than those of recruited athletes.
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"non-athletes"- I assume this is not a typo, and is what it sounds like?

If this is taken at face value, then wouldn't that be different than Ivy programs use of AI? For the Ivys, I'm assuming the recruits brought in to round out the class are still "athletes" with a legitimate athletic resume.
 
Ansu Fati said:
"non-athletes"- I assume this is not a typo, and is what it sounds like?

If this is taken at face value, then wouldn't that be different than Ivy programs use of AI? For the Ivys, I'm assuming the recruits brought in to round out the class are still "athletes" with a legitimate athletic resume.
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The title of this thread includes the word "Yale" - that's an Ivy.

In the cases that have become public, the non-athletes were disguised as crew coxswain or a soccer team manager - and some just had no athletic disguise whatsoever.

I think I have stated before that the ideal recruit for a college coach is a player with credible club or high school team experience, grades and test scores that meet the minimum admission requirements (even if not competitive with the best applicants), and parents who want no athletic department money (and a record or promise of big contributions helps even more). Just guessing here - there are some players who get admissions help from a coach who see only rare appearances on the field, but who don't cost the program anything and help on the income side for the college.
 
espola said:
The title of this thread includes the word "Yale" - that's an Ivy.

In the cases that have become public, the non-athletes were disguised as crew coxswain or a soccer team manager - and some just had no athletic disguise whatsoever.
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Thanks for the clarification. I am well aware of the title of the thread and allegations involved in the Varsity Blues scandal. Just to recap, this was an operation run by Singer who helped nonathlete kids of rich parents gain admissions to elite universities (public and private) in part by bribing coaches, who would abuse the recruiting-admissions process and pretend these kids were recruits. Presumably without the universities knowledge (hence the schools were also "victims").

What Salcedo's lawyers raise are allegations that UCLA was also actively engaging in practices that abused the recruiting-admissions process by admitting "GPA boosters"- nonathletes from rich families that would raising the APR of a program in return for booster donations. If true, I am sure this is not only happening at UCLA.

@Zerodenero posed the question- how different is that from Ivys using AI to round out their recruiting classes? I assume the Ivys are recruiting athletes who have a legitimate athletic resume and meet minimum academic requirements for recruits that may be less competitive than the general pool but are still high and would raise the team AI to meet Ivy requirements. If this is correct, than it would seem to me that this technically different than the Salcedo allegations- Ivys are working within, rather than abusing recruiting-admissions process.

espola said:
I think I have stated before that the ideal recruit for a college coach is a player with credible club or high school team experience, grades and test scores that meet the minimum admission requirements (even if not competitive with the best applicants), and parents who want no athletic department money (and a record or promise of big contributions helps even more). Just guessing here - there are some players who get admissions help from a coach who see only rare appearances on the field, but who don't cost the program anything and help on the income side for the college.
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Now what I really wonder- is this just a slippery slope? I too imagine a situation where a program recruits an athlete who in reality will see very little time on the field, in return for a boost in the team academic performance to balance the blue chip recruits who aren't as strong academically. Parents are wealthy (alums) who wont cost the school a dime, and may even pledge to give a healthy sum to the school/booster. Kid isn't really gonna play, but gets an elite university degree, maybe with the help of the almighty $.
 
messy said:
Nothing good for him about that plea.
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The thing most don’t realize is that Federal prosecutors count in multiples of 10 (ie 10 yrs per charge) and win approximately 90% of the time. Once a person is formally charged with a Federal crime most don’t want to fight even if they are innocent because the consequences of losing are too severe.
He probably settled to avoid a potential 10-20 year prison bid and he had to rat out his friends. All money ain’t good money!
 
So if Salcedo pleads guilty for taking $$ and the parents of the faux female soccer player plead guilty for paying $$, how does Cromwell not get wrapped into this? Maybe there's no evidence of $$ into her pocket for a criminal charge? But wouldn't the university have athlete policy at least? Refresh my memory but wasn't this girl listed on the soccer roster, in photos, etc.?
 
Like I said everyone, more news in pay to play is coming. Wee, wee, wee all the way home and tell that stupid dad to shut up. New soccer is coming so please be patient everyone.
 
oh canada said:
So if Salcedo pleads guilty for taking $$ and the parents of the faux female soccer player plead guilty for paying $$, how does Cromwell not get wrapped into this? Maybe there's no evidence of $$ into her pocket for a criminal charge? But wouldn't the university have athlete policy at least? Refresh my memory but wasn't this girl listed on the soccer roster, in photos, etc.?
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uclabruins.com

Lauren Isackson - Women's Soccer - UCLA

Lauren Isackson (41) Midfielder - High School/Club Honorable mention All-WBAL selection in 2014 … Team captain for Woodside Soccer Club from 2012-16 … Select...
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oh canada said:
So if Salcedo pleads guilty for taking $$ and the parents of the faux female soccer player plead guilty for paying $$, how does Cromwell not get wrapped into this? Maybe there's no evidence of $$ into her pocket for a criminal charge? But wouldn't the university have athlete policy at least? Refresh my memory but wasn't this girl listed on the soccer roster, in photos, etc.?
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It just slipped on by and she made the team and got a roster spot. My goat had her little chance but blew it. Damm!!!! Isackson was tougher and a better goat and was the Unicorn they were looking for. I knew something was up.
 
outside! said:
uclabruins.com

Lauren Isackson - Women's Soccer - UCLA

Lauren Isackson (41) Midfielder - High School/Club Honorable mention All-WBAL selection in 2014 … Team captain for Woodside Soccer Club from 2012-16 … Select...
uclabruins.com uclabruins.com
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per LA Times..."students admitted through UCLA’s process for athletes are required to be “athletically qualified” and play on the team for at least the first year in school"

"One of the students, Lauren Isackson, who had not played competitive soccer in high school, was listed on the 2017 women’s soccer roster. She never played in a game. "
 
MacDre said:
The thing most don’t realize is that Federal prosecutors count in multiples of 10 (ie 10 yrs per charge) and win approximately 90% of the time. Once a person is formally charged with a Federal crime most don’t want to fight even if they are innocent because the consequences of losing are too severe.
He probably settled to avoid a potential 10-20 year prison bid and he had to rat out his friends. All money ain’t good money!
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Nobody within 100 miles of this thing is getting close to 10 years. His sentence will be as bad as it could be.
 
MacDre said:
The thing most don’t realize is that Federal prosecutors count in multiples of 10 (ie 10 yrs per charge) and win approximately 90% of the time. Once a person is formally charged with a Federal crime most don’t want to fight even if they are innocent because the consequences of losing are too severe.
He probably settled to avoid a potential 10-20 year prison bid and he had to rat out his friends. All money ain’t good money!
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Nonsense.
 
espola said:
Salcedo pleads guilty --

wtop.com

Former UCLA soccer coach to plead guilty in admissions scam | WTOP

The former University of California at Los Angeles men's soccer coach will plead guilty to taking $200,000 in bribes as part of the college admissions cheating scheme, federal prosecutors said Tuesday.
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---and --- sortakarma ---

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Thanks a lot for reminding the conspiracy theorists and winding them up again. I wonder if they’re ready to apologize for being so mean after I told them Cromwell wouldn’t get fired, they would never hear a word from UCLA about her, and the scandal would have no meaningful impact on the women’s program or recruiting. Man was I prescient yet again.

How is the argument working out that, as taxpayers, they’re entitled to know what happened? And if Cromwell’s emails and texts were so awful and implicated her, why hasn’t the LA Times mentioned it although it’s had them for more than six months? Do you think the conspiracy runs so far and deep that it includes the Times reporters, and that no one can ever touch the all powerful women’s soccer coach? I bet Gavin Newsom himself is pulling the strings. Still so many questions after all this time, and no answers other than Cromwell had no involvement with Singer, did not take any bribes and did nothing more than a favor for a colleague, like pretty much all D1 coaches.
 
EOTL said:
Thanks a lot for reminding the conspiracy theorists and winding them up again. I wonder if they’re ready to apologize for being so mean after I told them Cromwell wouldn’t get fired, they would never hear a word from UCLA about her, and the scandal would have no meaningful impact on the women’s program or recruiting. Man was I prescient yet again.

How is the argument working out that, as taxpayers, they’re entitled to know what happened? And if Cromwell’s emails and texts were so awful and implicated her, why hasn’t the LA Times mentioned it although it’s had them for more than six months? Do you think the conspiracy runs so far and deep that it includes the Times reporters, and that no one can ever touch the all powerful women’s soccer coach? I bet Gavin Newsom himself is pulling the strings. Still so many questions after all this time, and no answers other than Cromwell had no involvement with Singer, did not take any bribes and did nothing more than a favor for a colleague, like pretty much all D1 coaches.
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A favor for a colleague is exactly right. There are favors that are easy, honest, and good deeds. I'm not sure this particular favor falls under that category.
 
Soccer4evr said:
A "favor" and you don't ask why you're putting a player on your roster who has no soccer experience? Hmmmm....
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Exactly... she and the program seem far too high profile to stick a neck out for nothing. Those are premium roster spots for women's soccer and the exposure of having a player, that didn't even play, seems much too high. Everyone on that roster needed about 15 minutes at practice to know something is up. I don't buy that. Maybe they just kept their mouths shut but why would Cromwell put herself in harm's way for nothing?
 
Soccer4evr said:
A "favor" and you don't ask why you're putting a player on your roster who has no soccer experience? Hmmmm....
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Everyone who knew me or my dd back in 2017 & 2018 knew what we were about. I told the higher up and coach at her previous club one big "No" for college when they asked her to send 20 emails out when she was in 8th grade. We did not send at that time because I felt she was too young and I was after the pros for her at that time. Remember my story I told 100s of times here? No need to bring up that past, right? However, i did say if one school had some interest I would be interested in hearing what they have to say. How does one communicate to a coach who can;t talk to me or my dd unless the kid makes the first move. What kind of speed dating was going on back then? Rules were changing and my dd and her old team just got done winning the National Championship on August 3rd of 2017. On September 6th, The List came out and my dd was not on. Talk about eating some more humble pie for my dd. She looked at the list and circled two games, Legends and Earthquakes. Why? Because most of the girls who were picked were from both of those two teams ironically. She and her team spanked Legends FC 5-0. She scored in the first few minutes and then assisted quickly after that. They had 5 National Team Members. Next, San Jose Earthquakes come to Del Mar with all their goats. She had the game of her life and scored two goals against the #1 team, the Earthquakes back in late 2017. We won 2-0 :) I have the video too. I also got one of the biggest compliments ever by her coach at the time. Top head technical recruiter was their too :) At this time, none of the top 04 goats had verbally committed yet. I was told this game was big time and my dd played the game of her life. 7 future YNT members, 5 UCLA commits, 1 North Carolina Commit and I'm not sure about all the others. Deza was there coaching too and it was one for bragging rights I was told. Nocal vs Socal dominance. I think my dd caught one of the UCLA commits napping and scored early in that game too :) Anyway, my ego is getting big again and I will just chill and see how this all unfolds. Crazy stuff @Giesbock that has happen to my family with soccer bro. I hated having to come on here and rant and ask a few questions about what the hell was going on the last three years. I don;t want to judge but the big missing puzzle piece that has been in my mind has been found. Lot's of birds are now singing. Let's see where the truth finds us.

P.S. Compare Isackson stats and bio to my kid at the same time. All around 2017 too. Crazy and actually sad :(
 
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