I would assume at least 04 Quakes stay together regardless. Many committed and in national camps so no reason to leave. Worst case they could play that GAL? or I guess oldest age of NPL in Nor Cal? Some younger ages could be more of a question if they aren't in a solid league platform. Like you mentioned many parents go there because of Deza and his connections. For once, him and Baicher are sweating what league their club can get into. Interesting situations indeed.
Nor Cal GDA Teams - What's Next
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kickingandscreaming
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I've heard this often for small players and do not disagree. However, emphasizing first touch, training to play in tight spaces and generally learning to be comfortable with the ball at your feet is perfect for any kid learning soccer. My daughter was/is bigger and faster than average, but we felt it was important that her training primarily emphasizes these skills.
That 04 Quakes team is special and I've seen them and MVLA's 04's a handful of times. I think MVLA has a better all around team. They may not be better individually but as a team, I think they are better. ECNL competition on the girls side has been better than the DA so the Quakes girls have not been playing the best competition since joining the DA.
My dd old coach and Deza go way back. When these their two teams played each other it was big time. Outside of politics, this Deza coach had his team playing real possession soccer. When Surf and Force ((earthqaukes)) played in 2017 and 2018, it was by far the best two teams I saw at one given time. Plus, we passed from the back and played two touch and pass & go all game. We won of course and that also makes me proud papa. My dd played 100% her best ball too against the Force or Quakes. MLVA equally as impressive but we only saw them once and we had two of our studs out sick and all those excuses...lol. I will say the three tied best 04 teams were Force, Surf and MLVA. This next season should be fun. Lets get Deza a place to coach so all those top players can play with us.
That 04 Quakes team has been solid for years. Hope they stay together. Quakes was just beginning to flesh out some of its younger girls teams, as well, before the GDA collapse. The 07 group, in particular, was attracting a lot of top talent in the area. I was looking forward to seeing those girls play.
MacDre
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A few years back I heard a rumor that Deza was seeking a job as a GNT coach...does anyone know if there is any truth to that rumor?
I think we as parents have put some really good coaches in impossible situations. Let the good coaches coach. We throw so much at these coaches. Admin, sales quotas, fundraising, recruiting and so much more that their not coaching. They have to separate parents from fighting and yelling at the refs plus they have to deal with "how come my Sally didn;t play much today" BS. On top of that, "Gun Guy" is scaring the sh*t out of all of us. Where going to lose good coaches too because of all this. Based on all this sh*t from USSF and GDA, I feel way more compassion towards the coaches who were forced to develop "so, so" players into world class players. That's impossible just so know. It can;t and won;t happen
Probably other way around. I'm sure he makes much more as a club coach running a club than a u14 YNT coach for example. Plus, his style of play you need to work with kids daily to really comprehend and execute. Wouldn't work as well with a national team who meets handful of times a year and majority probably play a different style with club. I believe Montoya(MVLA who is top level as well) had some struggles when he coached U17 national team in World Cup largely because of style of play clashes.
Agree and disagree. Agree, parents can make a coaches job harder in many ways. One will argue though some of what you mention, is how coaching is these days in the profession. It's not simply only running a practice or coaching a game. Coaches need to adjust to what todays coaching is vs maybe 30 years ago. In college, all those things you state is 100 percent part of the job. In club, some of those you have others in charge off on the board level probably.
It's a catch 22? Again, if the best coaches just coach, then you get the best of the coach. I own a business with two other partners. I stay in my lane and my CFO stays in his lane. I always want to go and grow and spend money but "Swifty" always ask me why and then I have to give this guy a reason why i want to spend $5k a month on google or FB ot whatever advertising I think is best. I have to give a good reeason to spend and not waste money. ROI is key with my budget. I don;t see this kind of checks and balances in club ((not all)). I see Doc ((who is coach too) doing all the checks and the balancing. A healthy company has separation of duties, so the guy writing the checks is not the same guy collecting the checks.
Agree with that. The main differnce, is maybe 10 percent of clubs have the budget like your company I assume to split up jobs. If a DOC really does his/her job right, they don't coach at all. Maybe 1 team at most. Of course, that means you're paying a DOC 6 figures to do that which most club can't afford. I don't disagree with you but I think it's unrealistic to split up all jobs unfortunately. It would be nice though!
I saw one Doc who was Doc and coach of two teams. I saw him on the phone all the time during the games. I think he was taking orders from someone who should play, start, come out, positions and get called up or not. This guy was so stretched that his pants ripped all the time and his ass was showing. He didn't know it, but I sure did.
I know there is issues with bringing a Deza run club into the ECNL, but if there is a way to mend fences, ECNL would be wise to bring the Earthquakes in. His move from Force to the Quakes and the impact of player movement was mostly between Deza and Force so ECNL shouldn't have as much of an issue bringing in the Earthquakes as they would with Force/Thorns. Force tried to pull a fast one on ECNL by creating the "California Thorns" so they could field both DA and ECNL when ECNL prohibited it for most clubs that didn't fit the criteria they put in place.
I've been calling for Mulligans for everyone. I need one sometimes. We need to do it for the girls
Most older teams like Quakes would like to stick together. I say, "yes" for Quakes. Those are the best players in the country.I do wonder if the MLS clubs like the Earthquakes will drop their girls programs and move their money and resources 100% to the Boys side. Let's face it, MLS clubs are for-profit. The homegrown system is starting to generate that income. If they do drop the girls, I'm sure there are plenty of clubs that would love to bring them in.
To be fair, Deza has had many mulligans haha. Ruined another club on the peninsula to basically take everyone to Force. Like I said, brilliant cosch but has made many enemies along the way.I've been calling for Mulligans for everyone. I need one sometimes. We need to do it for the girls
I also think being part of a MLS club right now makes it tougher to get into ecnl. Wouldn’t shock me if thorns had a better chance to get in. I say no way mvla allows Quakes too!
Clubs would bring him in(if don’t mind causing havoc and breaking up a good feel togetherness)but he wants ECNL status I’m sure so not many options unfortunately. Quakes was perfect fit since there was no girls club before hand really.
I think it's the opposite, MVLA won't let Thorns in and even if MVLA didn't have a say, ECNL won't forget what Force did. MVLA does have a link to the Earthquakes as well with Joe Cannon as color commentator during the radio broadcasts and former player who also happens to be MVLA's Executive Director.
I say this from good knowledge on this one since I have a friend on one of those boards, Quakes/Deza way more of a threat to MVLA than Thorns. Not saying Thorns isn't good, but Deza/Quakes have potential to be Elite. Thorns will be just very good club at best.
I agree I don't see Thorns getting in because of the Force situation you mentioned.
There are also a few families that burned bridges chasing the new shiny toy for their dd’s. I’m wondering how many of those will try to move their dd’s back to ECNL teams if their current clubs aren’t welcomed back.
Soccer4evr
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This issue is being discussed right now. With the loss of revenue for SJQuakes the girls side may go unfunded, thus no Andres, no Quakes.