Some data on Covid-19 and why we're not over reacting...

Hüsker Dü said:
Seems if we still had the pandemic response team in place we would have gotten off to a better start.
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of course the excuses come after I show you that we have conducted more test since the outbreak and more daily tests than korea who never did a lockdown. CDC made a mistake making faulty test kits, it happens. Could have happened with or without a response team. Protect the demographic that this virus is lethal for. Everyone else can go to work. No sense in ruining our economy for a virus with flu like symptoms. agree to disagree.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
I notice Dr. Fauci is MIA.
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He said something about not being able to jump in front of t and correct his errors in realtime, and then he disappeared from daily update press conferences. Pence later said that Fauci is working on something important back at his home office.
 
MSK357 said:
of course the excuses come after I show you that we have conducted more test since the outbreak and more daily tests than korea who never did a lockdown. CDC made a mistake making faulty test kits, it happens. Could have happened with or without a response team. Protect the demographic that this virus is lethal for. Everyone else can go to work. No sense in ruining our economy for a virus with flu like symptoms. agree to disagree.
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Or we could just agree that you are posting wishful thinking.
 
espola said:
Or we could just agree that you are posting wishful thinking.
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your wish is my wish unless you want this to kill more than 12,000 people like the swine flu or 40,000+ like the seasonal flu. I've been posting that this virus isn't that serious since the beginning. Hopefully my wishful thinking will be correct. Only 685 deaths so far at a 1.2% mortality rate, most of which are seniors with failing health.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Seems if we still had the pandemic response team in place we would have gotten off to a better start.
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Yeah... really sucks not being able to see the future some 2-years in advance. Hillary could have saved herself a 2nd defeat. Tell me something, Husky, how come you guys cry when Trump spends money and then you cry when he tries to save it?
 
MSK357 said:
your wish is my wish unless you want this to kill more than 12,000 people like the swine flu or 40,000+ like the seasonal flu. I've been posting that this virus isn't that serious since the beginning. Hopefully my wishful thinking will be correct. Only 685 deaths so far at a 1.2% mortality rate, most of which are seniors with failing health.
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My wish is that those who have the power to do something will listen to those who have the knowledge and training to know what to do.
 
espola said:
So if a doctor in New York has discovered a drug cocktail that prevents covid 19 (or cures it? it's not clear) why would the first person he tells about it be Sean Hannity?
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Hmmmmm......because maybe the MSM will not give him a platform....

It has been proven to work.....

Here's a simple solution, release the vaccine they already have that
was developed in conjunction with the virus....

Let's think.....who would have that ?????
 
Packed churches on Easter is not exactly where we should be heading now unless the point is to selectively kill off Christians.
 
This excellent web page has been modified so that when you click on a country name in the column on the left you get a picture in the lower right of that country's confirmed infection history. A couple of countries are showing strong negative second derivatives in their chart trends - China and South Korea. Italy may have the beginning of a slowdown - it's too hard to tell with the limited data points. The USA, on the other hand, is running rapidly upward.

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MSK357 said:
We know this already, I was the ones that posted that over 60 million were infected by the swine flu and over 12,000 died in 2009. Within the first 6 months of swine flue over 500 children under 18 were killed in the u.s. We are over a solid 2 months of coronavirus in the U.S. how many kids under 18 are killed so far? let me know when this coronavirus reaches those numbers. Like I said a week or 2 ago, ill be ready for the "well, we were on lockdown" excuse when we don't reach those numbers. once again, no lockdown for south korea. We should be "social distancing" during flu season anyway. After, it kills 40,000+ every year including healthy children under 18.
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Wait, you're kidding, right? "How many kids under 18 are killed so far?". You're comparing apples to oranges. Coronavirus and Swine Flu are different viruses so have different manifestations. Normally the tends to be more lethal for elderly and the very young. COVID-19 seems to largely spare people under 18.
 
MSK357 said:
Also, if you want some context, coronavirus hit us right before peak flu season which is February and March, and we are still less than 500 killed. Swine flu hit us in April as we were heading into summer when flu infections significantly decrease and it still killed over 500 kids under 18 within the first 6 months. We were lucky with the swine flu, it could have been much worse.
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Again, I don't understand your point in quoting the number of kids under 18 who died. That is not a comparable statistic to use since kids under 18 are largely spared by Coronavirus whereas with the Swine Flu they weren't.

You mention that people will be "making excuses" if there aren't as many deaths with coronavirus--as if you see those who don't agree with you (me for one) as hoping that there are more deaths in order to take a dig at Trump. Well, you're full of sh*t. I hope and pray that we don't see the numbers go up. I don't give a rat's *ss if Trump suddenly becomes a hero and is able to work fast to get the tests we need, the respirators, etc etc etc. But that hasn't happened. He was dragging his feet in the beginning because he was worried about his re-election and I honestly think he had no clue it was going to get this bad.

South Korea didn't need to shut down because they reacted so swiftly. As soon as there was a single case they started testing broadly. They also started intense contact tracing, using video survelliance, GPS, and other tools to track everywhere those infected, or possible infected, had one and who they interacted with. There response was jaw dropping. Trump reacted far too slowly which is why we had to shut down. He is not alone, I think the UK reaction was even worse than the US.

I can only hope we are learning from this because there will be another pandemic, that is guaranteed.
 
Imtired said:
Again, I don't understand your point in quoting the number of kids under 18 who died. That is not a comparable statistic to use since kids under 18 are largely spared by Coronavirus whereas with the Swine Flu they weren't.

You mention that people will be "making excuses" if there aren't as many deaths with coronavirus--as if you see those who don't agree with you (me for one) as hoping that there are more deaths in order to take a dig at Trump. Well, you're full of sh*t. I hope and pray that we don't see the numbers go up. I don't give a rat's *ss if Trump suddenly becomes a hero and is able to work fast to get the tests we need, the respirators, etc etc etc. But that hasn't happened. He was dragging his feet in the beginning because he was worried about his re-election and I honestly think he had no clue it was going to get this bad.

South Korea didn't need to shut down because they reacted so swiftly. As soon as there was a single case they started testing broadly. They also started intense contact tracing, using video survelliance, GPS, and other tools to track everywhere those infected, or possible infected, had one and who they interacted with. There response was jaw dropping. Trump reacted far too slowly which is why we had to shut down. He is not alone, I think the UK reaction was even worse than the US.

I can only hope we are learning from this because there will be another pandemic, that is guaranteed.
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lets agree to disagree. Seasonal flu kills 500+ kids under 24 years of age every year, to include elderly and poor in health. kills 40,000+ people a year. coronavirus has a specific demographic that it is lethal to. yes young kids can get sick, poor in health at every age can die, but large majority of those killed are over 70 in poor health. we shut down business, risking up to 20% unemployment over a couple hundred people that would have likely died from the flu/pneumonia, the #8 leading cause of death in the u.s. The exponential growth that everyone is talking about is topping out at roughly 80k with a major lockdown in china and roughly 9k without a lockdown in korea. We have tested more people in the U.S. and are testing more people daily than korea like I pointed out to husker until he changed the topic. The CDC messed up, not because we didn't have a pandemic response team, not because we weren't prepared, it was a mistake. We got delayed because of that but the speed of tests getting out there and getting conducted is a lot more than people think or the media care to report. I actually hate the fact trump gave in to a lockdown. hopefully he lifts it soon. like I said before, we'll see if you chicken littles are right, hopefully I'm the one that right. The lockdown will show to be more of a detriment than a cure to the problem.
 
MSK357 said:
lets agree to disagree. Seasonal flu kills 500+ kids under 24 years of age every year, to include elderly and poor in health. kills 40,000+ people a year. coronavirus has a specific demographic that it is lethal to. yes young kids can get sick, poor in health at every age can die, but large majority of those killed are over 70 in poor health. we shut down business, risking up to 20% unemployment over a couple hundred people that would have likely died from the flu/pneumonia, the #8 leading cause of death in the u.s. The exponential growth that everyone is talking about is topping out at roughly 80k with a major lockdown in china and roughly 9k without a lockdown in korea. We have tested more people in the U.S. and are testing more people daily than korea like I pointed out to husker until he changed the topic. The CDC messed up, not because we didn't have a pandemic response team, not because we weren't prepared, it was a mistake. We got delayed because of that but the speed of tests getting out there and getting conducted is a lot more than people think or the media care to report. I actually hate the fact trump gave in to a lockdown. hopefully he lifts it soon. like I said before, we'll see if you chicken littles are right, hopefully I'm the one that right. The lockdown will show to be more of a detriment than a cure to the problem.
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Let's agree that you sure hope your wishes come true.
 
espola said:
Packed churches on Easter is not exactly where we should be heading now unless the point is to selectively kill off Christians.
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A. You're NOT a Doctor.
B. You're NOT Informed.
C. You're NOT Honest.

How about you the non doctor just tell us all your REAL feelings towards Christians....

By mid April the Democrats will have this Country in Complete Chaos and Crisis
or
Their Evil Agenda will have been COMPLETELY exposed to the AMERICAN Public.

Which will hopefully result in a multitude of arrests of Filthy Criminal Democrats.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi should be arrested for TREASON for just her Filthy actions
regarding the Economic Stimulus Bill.....She is an EVIL WOMAN !!!
 
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