Dirtnap
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I know my daughter would, she missed being a 07 by a month and most of her friends are 07's
Age Band Change (again)?
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When I first saw this posted here, I thought “no flipping way they would even consider moving it back”.
But now I’m seeing this “rumor” all over Twitter and other forums.
If they do roll it back, do they do some sort of “grandfather” clause to allow existing teams some time to transition (or age out). That was one of the biggest complaints when they rolled out “birth year”.
But now I’m seeing this “rumor” all over Twitter and other forums.
If they do roll it back, do they do some sort of “grandfather” clause to allow existing teams some time to transition (or age out). That was one of the biggest complaints when they rolled out “birth year”.
Start at u12 and go back to school age. My poor dd has been through enough already and so have I. Age change 2016, DA 2017 started the pay per play league, no HS Soccer allowed for poor kids in public school but if you're dad is rich and sits on the board you get waiver. Why do these asshole docs (not all) tell you in order to be "elite" you need to "pay so you can play" and pay for 10 months out of year, 4 days a week and travel all across the country spending hard earn money in showcases? They tell you, you have to devote all your life at 12 years old in one sport? Come on folks, seriously. This is the biggest money scam ever. Hogwash!!!!!!
I was trying to figure out how to reply to this coherently, and then I saw it is from nwd. Reader beware.
On average those kids are fairly big. If you want to see some really big 11-12 year olds come to a DA showcase. Some are just big kids, but some have the body tone and definition of an adult. It can literally look like men against boys.
Do we need to do what they did for tackle football when I was growing up?
From 5th through 8th grade, they had weight divisions.
Lightweight
Middleweight
Heavyweight
It was ideal because everyone in a group was about the same size. So you didn't have the big kid always playing offensive line or the skinny kid playing receiver. Gave kids a chance to play a few positions before getting pigeonholed based on their body type.
From 5th through 8th grade, they had weight divisions.
Lightweight
Middleweight
Heavyweight
It was ideal because everyone in a group was about the same size. So you didn't have the big kid always playing offensive line or the skinny kid playing receiver. Gave kids a chance to play a few positions before getting pigeonholed based on their body type.
jpeter
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Weight classes in wrestling & boxing but that's the first I heard about them for middle school football. Age or grade grouped around here but multiples normally.
Soccer is sometime a bit of wrestling but that would be funny to have a lightweight team, mid weights, and our feature today the heavys. Let's get ready to rumble...
When they were younger, my kids participated in tennis tournaments where age groups were set effective the day the tournament started.
Works fine for individual sports. Tougher for a team passing sport like soccer.
Creating a new mix of kids 3 times per year seems like it would be awful for building friendships.
Might be able to declare a max age, and max average age. Kids playing up would have to be excluded from the average, or some idiot coach would have kids play up just to offset all his olders.
Lambchop
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So many other reasons why the number of players has dropped and it has nothing to do with the age change or pay to play. Think about it, you have little children coming into soccer eager and willing to learn and play. What is it that destroys their love of the game? Spend some time seriously thinking about it. The answer is too controversial for the forum. Maybe some day a book will be written.
Why would new soccer participation not go down when our men’s national team failed to make it into the World Cup last time?
We literally have ZERO men’s national team players with mainstream recognition.
I might ask why any boy born in this culture would even think of the sport going forward?
Just about 20 years ago I was debating with a British guy about how close we were to taking over in soccer. I must have came across as the biggest dunce in the company with that.
We literally have ZERO men’s national team players with mainstream recognition.
I might ask why any boy born in this culture would even think of the sport going forward?
Just about 20 years ago I was debating with a British guy about how close we were to taking over in soccer. I must have came across as the biggest dunce in the company with that.
Lambchop
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Don't worry about "playing with school friends". The friends will be friends at their home school in spite of what sport they play. DD DA team has 17 players from "15" different high schools! They are all friends in spite of the different schools and distance between them. Only two players attend the same high school. (five private schools in the mix)
I was talking about team friends. Even in Ulittle, we have almost no one from the same school. But none of them want the team to get scrambled every time birthdays roll around.
I really interested in the answer. Give it up, please..... I will give you my thoughts after you give us your answer.
P.S. I also have some stories to add to the book if you ever want to write one
A reality show is more like it. TB said 100% I could roll the cameras. He knows, as do other coaches, how lame and stupid all this is. He also knows why and how all this has happened. Dance moms, please...….. How about "Soccer Dads." You need honest people like Luis and EJ to let their mouths fly. Lawyer type rich dads will either recruit us or try and shut us up. Luis's kid is way ahead of the curve at this age. My dd at U10 had mental toughness, blazing speed, goal scoring abilities (back then) and competitive drive that also took her above other players and everyone was pissed that we left Legends. I told Luis it will all even out around U15. The hope and prayer is your dd still loves the game even though some adults tried to ruin it for her.
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LMAO @ "everyone was pissed that we left Legends"I really interested in the answer. Give it up, please..... I will give you my thoughts after you give us your answer.
P.S. I also have some stories to add to the book if you ever want to write one
Don't you mean Blues, I mean Surf, wait no it was Blues, or maybe you're talking about next season when you leave Strikers!?
PS... I thought you "changed your ways & learned your lesson" yet you keep posting about how amazing of a soccer dad you were at U10.
Too funny brah - keep it up EJ, I mean Justus, wait it's NewWaveDave, wow - not only a club-hopper but a forum name-hopper too!
The plan before the birth year change was to play for Tad Bobak and the Blues until 18 years old if she never got cut along the way. So, yes we pissed off some Blues parents as well and some coaches for being the first to take the Free Surf Deal. Then we pissed off some more parents at Surf to go back to Legends so she could play up with the first DA 03/04 combo and then at the last second DA decided to switch to single band....oh my, I see your point. This looks really bad, I will admit that. I hope the college coaches don't find out how much hopping we have done. The only hopping I was ever accused of before club soccer was when I was surfing. I am a forum hopper but at least I'm honest about it. I know some folks who have three or four accounts and don't tell any of us. My buddy has been with the Coach Woodcock Soccer Family for a few years, 2500+ following. They went from: Blades, Slammers, LA Galaxy of OC and now Liverpool. $1,000 price increase this year Canyon Guy. If some smart dad finally gets it and leaves, this would be his 5th new jersey with a different name. That sucks and is really sad!!!!
Kante
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too often, coaches will equate older/early developer (which is what often but not always leads to b/f/s) with more talented, and therein is the problem.
whatithink
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That may be true, but mostly I think its not. Coaches & clubs talk about development, but b/f/s means a higher possibility to win and they will go with that every time. The bigger the club, the less reliance on "development" because they have (or will get) enough quantity to stay competitive, IMV. I don't think they believe that the b/f/s are more talented, just that they are more effective at that point.
They then "sell", play on the second team and at Ux your player will be on my top team.
Ultimately, I think this is systematic of a wider problem in US soccer which is apparent on the men's side (focus on b/f/s early loses the technical players) and will impact on the women's side in the next 5-10 years as the USWNT loses it dominance to the Euro sides who value technical above b/f/s.
Kante
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fair. so clarification. Coaches may not actually think b/f/s are more talented but rather than saying to families that Tier 1 team is 1st oldest, Tier 2 is 2nd oldest etc, Tier 1 players are represented to families as "best" and "best" is then interpreted (reasonably) as "most talented".
Simple fix here is for clubs/coaches to say that 1) older = significant competitive advantage, but is not necessarily most talented 2) be consistent about this representation to both families of tier 1 and not tier 1 3) have specific initiative to ID and cultivate most talented, regardless of age.