2019 Women's D1 Soccer Talk!!!!

Dos Equis said:
When did Gregg Berhalter join the forum?
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Huh? I don't follow the men's game all that closely so I don't know how my comments match Berhalter's. But the full context of my comment makes it clear I'm talking about overgeneralizing based on a single game or event. We do that all the time in contexts in and out of sports (in sports, a specific score also often weighs too heavily in framing our conclusions). UCLA lost 0-2 . . . oh, they will have a hard time scoring! (they won't) Stanford lost 0-1 . . . Ratcliffe should have played more players to mix it up (um, they had 22 shots). I'd prefer a body of work or at least a series of games before I think the bloom is off the rose or that a single upset is indicative of anything more than just an odd confluence of variables. It is what makes sports fun to watch game-by-game and also why when I'm rooting for my particular favorites, I am pretty mellow until my team faces an elimination game (and worry in those non-elimination games when the team plays like crap - even in a win - and can be satisfied when they play well - even in a loss).

(one game just came to mind: FSU was clearly the better team in the 2018 semifinal. But until the 2d goal - through the Stanford GK's hands - a 1-0 game was a (less than 100%) Marcario free kick from being tied. Maybe that game ends 1-1, goes to PKs and maybe Stanford wins. If that were the result, it would not have told the story. 2-0 does tell the story BUT not really as the score could have/should have been 1-0 but for the error)
 
outside! said:
It was the play where Mizzou had a set play near the Fullerton goal, the ball came out, the Fullerton forward touched the ball around the defender, muscled through the impeding arm bar and got a couple of steps on the defender only to have the defender do a big jersey tug which enabled her to slide tackle the Fullerton player. The referee reached for his back pocket and got the red card part way out before changing his mind and putting the red back in his pocket and getting the yellow out of his front pocket. I believe without the second foul, the Fullerton player would have pulled away from the defender and been 1v1 with the Mizzou keeper.
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I do remember that play and it seemed like a red card to me. I was pretty surprised. Fullerton overcame the BS.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I do remember that play and it seemed like a red card to me. I was pretty surprised. Fullerton overcame the BS.
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I thought the announcers did a great job of discussing the call, and they seemed a bit surprised as well. It was a fun game and the Fullerton players were a bit pumped up after that game. Brown's second goal was a thing of beauty, perfect ball served in and a quality finish. Primus was fun to watch. The Mizzou senior that kept dribbling through the Fullerton defense was impressive.
 
outside! said:
I thought the announcers did a great job of discussing the call, and they seemed a bit surprised as well. It was a fun game and the Fullerton players were a bit pumped up after that game. Brown's second goal was a thing of beauty, perfect ball served in and a quality finish. Primus was fun to watch. The Mizzou senior that kept dribbling through the Fullerton defense was impressive.
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Her name was Sarah Lubbert. She is a 3 time all-SEC player which is why it was weird that she was coming off the bench. She was clearly their best player. Seems like the Mizzou coach is a relic and has been their too long if he can't figure out that his returning 1st team All-SEC player should start...

I'm now officially a fan of CSUF and will be watching as many of their remaining games that I can. And I hope that they get $C as a first round opponent and that they have a similar result as their scrimmage last month.
 
dk_b said:
Huh? I don't follow the men's game all that closely so I don't know how my comments match Berhalter's. But the full context of my comment makes it clear I'm talking about overgeneralizing based on a single game or event. We do that all the time in contexts in and out of sports (in sports, a specific score also often weighs too heavily in framing our conclusions). UCLA lost 0-2 . . . oh, they will have a hard time scoring! (they won't) Stanford lost 0-1 . . . Ratcliffe should have played more players to mix it up (um, they had 22 shots). I'd prefer a body of work or at least a series of games before I think the bloom is off the rose or that a single upset is indicative of anything more than just an odd confluence of variables. It is what makes sports fun to watch game-by-game and also why when I'm rooting for my particular favorites, I am pretty mellow until my team faces an elimination game (and worry in those non-elimination games when the team plays like crap - even in a win - and can be satisfied when they play well - even in a loss).

(one game just came to mind: FSU was clearly the better team in the 2018 semifinal. But until the 2d goal - through the Stanford GK's hands - a 1-0 game was a (less than 100%) Marcario free kick from being tied. Maybe that game ends 1-1, goes to PKs and maybe Stanford wins. If that were the result, it would not have told the story. 2-0 does tell the story BUT not really as the score could have/should have been 1-0 but for the error)
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Berhalter wants us to focus on the style of play of the USMNT, not any specific results. Seems his goal is to play the most beautiful soccer of any team not qualifying for major international tournaments. My comment was more about style being the focus over results.

We all understand how one game does not provide a complete picture of a team. But the accomplishment of the winning team should not be diminished either -- the win also tells a story.
 
Dos Equis said:
Berhalter wants us to focus on the style of play of the USMNT, not any specific results. Seems his goal is to play the most beautiful soccer of any team not qualifying for major international tournaments. My comment was more about style being the focus over results.

We all understand how one game does not provide a complete picture of a team. But the accomplishment of the winning team should not be diminished either -- the win also tells a story.
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In fact, I agree with you. I think the win does tell the story and, in particular, upsets can have a big impact on a team. They also are often defined by amazing individual and team performances, great tenacity, grit, etc. I certainly don't want to diminish any accomplishment and love when "that's why they play the game" plays out in front of us.

(I do also think that context matters - what purpose is "better soccer" for the USMNT if there are no positive results? Similarly, many people criticize the USWNT for how they play and ignore the results when they count the most.)
 
Travel day for UCLA, Wazzu and Pepperdine. Tomorrow will be my players 60th consecutive start and her 75th of her career. Both pretty big milestones for her. It would have been 76 straight if not for a bout of mono and strep (at the same time) her freshman year that caused her to miss one game. I'm hoping that she runs that number to 78 straight and 93 total starts which would mean that they are playing for the title again.

Good luck to all who have a player playing this weekend!
 
I'm actually pretty excited to sit on the beach and watch soccer all weekend. My games that I will DEFINITELY be watching:

Santa Clara vs. Stanford (this one is going to be the best game all weekend and is always a battle)
LMU vs. Fullerton (something tells me there is going to be a TON of goals scored)
Florida State vs. Boston College (this is a good one)
Kansas vs. BYU (this is one of 3 serious roadblocks to an undefeated season for BYU. Kansas will win the Big 12 this year)
Long Beach St. vs. Central Florida (two midmajors that need a win to help them come tournament time)
Baylor vs. U$C (Jungle ball vs. advanced kickball not to mention a rematch of the Sweet 16 two years ago)
Wake Forest vs. Virginia (The Deacons are upset specialist and this is an upset waiting to happen with the UVa injuries)
Vanderbilt vs. Tennessee (An in-state rivalry that should be a blood bath. Winner has inside track in the SEC)
Arizona vs. TCU (This game should be an interesting battle between two very direct teams)
Denver vs. Colorado (this is a rivalry game and Denver is better than you might think)
Cal vs. Portland (This is a potential upset for a Golden Bears program riding high after entering the top 25)
Utah vs. University of San Diego ( Utah is an enigma right now and USD is up and down. This should be interesting)

Good luck to all who have players playing this weekend and may it be an injury free weekend!
 
Agree those are intriguing matchups

Baylor v USC could be added to the possible upsets as well

Santa Clara, at 4-4, really needs to bring it v Stanford, and very likely will put them to a major test

Good luck in Hawaii
 
I’m watching UC Davis. Vs. TENN and am impressed With Davis and the their ability to execute hamm’s game plan in year 1.

Commentators mentioned she one of two women that has UEFA license. They are impressed with her. I think I’m watching Cal’a next coach?

0-0 with 20m left
 
And don’t forget Michigan coming off big victory over Wazzu playing at Penn St Tomorrow. Big Ten channel. Will be a tight match as last two decided by a single goal. A win for Michigan not improbable and would put them in great shape going forward in the BIG! Love the start of conference play. Good luck to all!
 
GKDAD said:
And don’t forget Michigan coming off big victory over Wazzu playing at Penn St Tomorrow. Big Ten channel. Will be a tight match as last two decided by a single goal. A win for Michigan not improbable and would put them in great shape going forward in the BIG! Love the start of conference play. Good luck to all!
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The Big Ten network is the only one that I didn’t spring for. Most of their football games come on ABC and my player isn’t in the conference so I didn’t get it.

Michigan is definitely responding this season under Klein. They have always had good talent so it is nice to see it being put to better use.
 
eastbaysoccer said:
I’m watching UC Davis. Vs. TENN and am impressed With Davis and the their ability to execute hamm’s game plan in year 1.

Commentators mentioned she one of two women that has UEFA license. They are impressed with her. I think I’m watching Cal’a next coach?

0-0 with 20m left
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The winner from Vignola was a nice strike. Davis played well.
 
eastbaysoccer said:
I’m watching UC Davis. Vs. TENN and am impressed With Davis and the their ability to execute hamm’s game plan in year 1.

Commentators mentioned she one of two women that has UEFA license. They are impressed with her. I think I’m watching Cal’a next coach?

0-0 with 20m left
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I wonder if Neil has done enough to save his job. And maybe I'm missing it but, other than incredible bursts of speed, I have never understood the hype about Abi Kim. Maybe I haven't seen her enough but, against Santa Clara, Deza was really forcing the issue there and all I saw was a bunch of north and south runs that didn't produce much.
 
The Outlaw said:
I wonder if Neil has done enough to save his job. And maybe I'm missing it but, other than incredible bursts of speed, I have never understood the hype about Abi Kim. Maybe I haven't seen her enough but, against Santa Clara, Deza was really forcing the issue there and all I saw was a bunch of north and south runs that didn't produce much.
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She's crafty, fast and strong. She assisted the first goal and influenced the second. I'm not a super fan, but she's a very good player.
 
Dubs said:
She's crafty, fast and strong. She assisted the first goal and influenced the second. I'm not a super fan, but she's a very good player.
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Well, she's definitely fast and aggressive... she did assist on that goal and it was solely based on speed and effort, but Luca kept sending her through balls and I kept watching her get knocked off or negated. So as for being strong and crafty, I'm still looking for that. I agree that she's good and definitely draws attention but I keep hearing how great she is and I don't see the results. I was far more impressed by at least 3 of her teammates.
 
The Outlaw said:
Well, she's definitely fast and aggressive... she did assist on that goal and it was solely based on speed and effort, but Luca kept sending her through balls and I kept watching her get knocked off or negated. So as for being strong and crafty, I'm still looking for that. I agree that she's good and definitely draws attention but I keep hearing how great she is and I don't see the results. I was far more impressed by at least 3 of her teammates.
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I agree there were others that were just as impressive. Paige Mateyer has become an excellent midfielder. Esepcially reading passing lanes on defense. Her distribution could be better, but I thought she was the best player on the pitch.
 
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