New ECNL Clubs

Well, a topic a lurker can speak to.
It is true that Reign Academy is "alive",
but without money and troops, it is a
paper tiger. Reign FC the first team
doesn't have two nickels to rub together,
let alone support an academy system.
Only possibility however improbable
is Washington Premier who has ECNL
will switch to GDA, since they are close
by to the new home of Reign FC in
Tacoma. If that happens, PacNW ECNL
should send them flowers thanking them
for the new players. ;)

@Savage is probably a Reign parent
pissed off that the Reign was a dead end.

Reign Dad, Reign is dead. Figure out where your
DD will land for tryouts in May.
Once again, Go Dawgs!
 
The coaches are Reign coaches - former Eastside coaches. Reign operates the academy teams. Eastside operates pre-academy teams following Reign's curriculum. Eastside kids end up on the Reign Academy team, but the Reign academy players can come from anywhere - best players make the team.

One observation - no "All-In" press release from ECNL.
Not sure how any of that makes Reign "independent". Everything you said there shows Reign's dependency on Eastside.
 
Not sure how any of that makes Reign "independent". Everything you said there shows Reign's dependency on Eastside.

We have a different understanding of independent. My wife and I do a lot of things to support each other, but I consider my wife independent of me. If I die tomorrow, she will survive and move on. She doesn't depend on me to survive - she depends on me for convenience. Same goes with Reign.

You presented Reign as the same thing as Eastside. It's not. It operates independently of Eastside - even Eastside's website states that Reign operates the academy teams. Reign, in fact, had tryouts last weekend despite Eastside joining and committing its top teams to ECNL.
 
No, Reign GDA is independent of Eastside. GDA still alive in Seattle. Rumor is that GDA will bring in another club to replace Crossfire.

Lots of "elite" clubs in Seattle: Reign, Crossfire, Seattle United, WPFC, PacNW, and Eastside.

Who is left for GDA to add in Seattle? Also, WPFC isn't quite Seattle, or first rung suburb.
 
Reign trains 2-3 days per week in Bellevue and 1-2 days per week in Seattle. WPFC would seem to make the most sense as the professional team, Reign FC just moved to a stadium in Tacoma.
 
We have a different understanding of independent. My wife and I do a lot of things to support each other, but I consider my wife independent of me. If I die tomorrow, she will survive and move on. She doesn't depend on me to survive - she depends on me for convenience. Same goes with Reign.

You presented Reign as the same thing as Eastside. It's not. It operates independently of Eastside - even Eastside's website states that Reign operates the academy teams. Reign, in fact, had tryouts last weekend despite Eastside joining and committing its top teams to ECNL.
That's a horrible analogy, so not even going to touch that one.

Parse words and meanings all you want, but Reign currently, at a minimum, is dependent on Eastside for players and for infrastructure as of now. They may survive, but it looks likely their survival will be dependent on another partnership with another club.
 
Reign trains 2-3 days per week in Bellevue and 1-2 days per week in Seattle. WPFC would seem to make the most sense as the professional team, Reign FC just moved to a stadium in Tacoma.

The geography makes sense, but WPFC are pretty diehard supporters of ECNL.
 
Thought this was interesting:

The US Soccer Girls Development Academy recently announced the arrival of six new clubs into the Girls’ DA program. While clubs are joining the Girls’s DA, more than a few clubs have decided to leave and have all of their top girls’ teams compete in the ECNL (Elite Clubs National League). One of those clubs is Crossfire Premier based just outside Seattle, Washington.

ECNL HAS MORE TO OFFER OUR GIRLS

Bernie James is the Director of Coaching at Crossfire Premier. When I spoke with James about how Crossfire Premier is able to provide so much funding for their top teams, we also spoke at length about the club’s decision to leave the Girls’ DA. Crossfire Premier has been very successful in the Girls’ DA. This season, Crossfire Premier teams are in the top three of the standings in all age divisions. SEE STANDINGS HERE. Last year, in the DA’s inaugural season, Crossfire had one team reach the National Semifinals and another the Quarterfinals. However, even with all the success, James simply said, “ECNL offers more of what our girls are looking for in a soccer program.” James continued, “We had ECNL teams and DA teams. The club fully-funded the DA, and still paid for all travel costs for two of the ECNL age groups. Yet, we had elite-level girls—players chosen for our DA teams—coming to us saying ‘We’ll pay. We want to play ECNL.’ That’s huge. We’re talking thousands of dollars these families were willing to sacrifice to play ECNL.”

THESE GIRLS WANT TO PLAY HIGH SCHOOL.

I asked James what ECNL offers. Why were families willing to pay thousands of dollars, give up the DA season, and play ECNL? He answered, “There are big gaps in the DA schedule, for one thing, playing around 30 games spread across 10 months. Our girls this season didn’t have a game between early December and late February, for instance, and in other cases, we have only one game in a month. The DA tells us to take those gaps and set up other games with teams around the region, but that’s not a good solution for us due to our geographic isolation in the Pacific Northwest. We keep training at the high level, but there are these huge gaps where we’re not playing competitive games. Then you can add to that a bigger hurdle: These girls want to play for their high schools. They want to play in front of their friends and with their friends. They want to play for their schools. [When the Girls DA started] we thought the girls would eventually not mind giving up the social aspect of high school soccer, like what happened on the boys’ DA side. That didn’t happen. They know they can still be in a very competitive league [ECNL] and be able to play high school soccer at the same time, and that’s a very attractive proposition to our players.”

“SOCCER BRINGS COMMUNITIES TOGETHER”

Many high school teams play a high level of soccer with professional coaches and top training, but many do not. This is one of the main reasons US Soccer prohibits their players from playing for their high school teams. I asked James about the competitive level of high school soccer in the Seattle area. “Honestly, I don’t have a problem with it, no matter the level. Most of these girls, in both the DA and the ECNL, are not going to be professional soccer players. They’re in it because they love this game. The vast majority of them are not going to have careers playing soccer, and we were taking away some of the best soccer experiences from them during their high school years. It’s a beautiful game. Soccer brings communities together. First and foremost, we listened to our customers our players and families, and we recognized just how important high school soccer was to them. Then we came together as a club and decided that we are going to have our top girls teams in the ECNL. Our families are all in. We’re very happy with our decision. We know it’s the right direction for our girls’ teams.”
 
Thought this was interesting:

The US Soccer Girls Development Academy recently announced the arrival of six new clubs into the Girls’ DA program. While clubs are joining the Girls’s DA, more than a few clubs have decided to leave and have all of their top girls’ teams compete in the ECNL (Elite Clubs National League). One of those clubs is Crossfire Premier based just outside Seattle, Washington.

ECNL HAS MORE TO OFFER OUR GIRLS

Bernie James is the Director of Coaching at Crossfire Premier. When I spoke with James about how Crossfire Premier is able to provide so much funding for their top teams, we also spoke at length about the club’s decision to leave the Girls’ DA. Crossfire Premier has been very successful in the Girls’ DA. This season, Crossfire Premier teams are in the top three of the standings in all age divisions. SEE STANDINGS HERE. Last year, in the DA’s inaugural season, Crossfire had one team reach the National Semifinals and another the Quarterfinals. However, even with all the success, James simply said, “ECNL offers more of what our girls are looking for in a soccer program.” James continued, “We had ECNL teams and DA teams. The club fully-funded the DA, and still paid for all travel costs for two of the ECNL age groups. Yet, we had elite-level girls—players chosen for our DA teams—coming to us saying ‘We’ll pay. We want to play ECNL.’ That’s huge. We’re talking thousands of dollars these families were willing to sacrifice to play ECNL.”

THESE GIRLS WANT TO PLAY HIGH SCHOOL.

I asked James what ECNL offers. Why were families willing to pay thousands of dollars, give up the DA season, and play ECNL? He answered, “There are big gaps in the DA schedule, for one thing, playing around 30 games spread across 10 months. Our girls this season didn’t have a game between early December and late February, for instance, and in other cases, we have only one game in a month. The DA tells us to take those gaps and set up other games with teams around the region, but that’s not a good solution for us due to our geographic isolation in the Pacific Northwest. We keep training at the high level, but there are these huge gaps where we’re not playing competitive games. Then you can add to that a bigger hurdle: These girls want to play for their high schools. They want to play in front of their friends and with their friends. They want to play for their schools. [When the Girls DA started] we thought the girls would eventually not mind giving up the social aspect of high school soccer, like what happened on the boys’ DA side. That didn’t happen. They know they can still be in a very competitive league [ECNL] and be able to play high school soccer at the same time, and that’s a very attractive proposition to our players.”

“SOCCER BRINGS COMMUNITIES TOGETHER”

Many high school teams play a high level of soccer with professional coaches and top training, but many do not. This is one of the main reasons US Soccer prohibits their players from playing for their high school teams. I asked James about the competitive level of high school soccer in the Seattle area. “Honestly, I don’t have a problem with it, no matter the level. Most of these girls, in both the DA and the ECNL, are not going to be professional soccer players. They’re in it because they love this game. The vast majority of them are not going to have careers playing soccer, and we were taking away some of the best soccer experiences from them during their high school years. It’s a beautiful game. Soccer brings communities together. First and foremost, we listened to our customers our players and families, and we recognized just how important high school soccer was to them. Then we came together as a club and decided that we are going to have our top girls teams in the ECNL. Our families are all in. We’re very happy with our decision. We know it’s the right direction for our girls’ teams.”

Pretty good stuff. The week after announcing the move from DA to ECNL, Bernie's Crossfire sent an email to the players and parents in their Girls program threatening immediate expulsion from the club if they attended any Discovery sessions with the Reign, a DA club. If Bernie just wants what is best for the girls, why the concern if the girls check out a club that is staying in the DA?
 
Well, a topic a lurker can speak to.
It is true that Reign Academy is "alive",
but without money and troops, it is a
paper tiger. Reign FC the first team
doesn't have two nickels to rub together,
let alone support an academy system.
Only possibility however improbable
is Washington Premier who has ECNL
will switch to GDA, since they are close
by to the new home of Reign FC in
Tacoma. If that happens, PacNW ECNL
should send them flowers thanking them
for the new players. ;)

@Savage is probably a Reign parent
pissed off that the Reign was a dead end.

Reign Dad, Reign is dead. Figure out where your
DD will land for tryouts in May.
Once again, Go Dawgs!

Maybe someone should create a Seattle local subgroup here since the local site has gone kaput. Although since the so cal GDA folks may be getting more travel to Seattle there may be some interest in this here as well.

The Reign’s fortunes may turn more on whether GDA gets its act together than on their internal challenges. Their coaches do not have any current affiliation with Eastside, work for the Reign, are generally well-liked, and have said they are sticking with the program for next year. Their national team players (5?) likely won’t be going ECNL given us soccer’s strong preference for GDA. They’ve done a very solid job on college placement with their two oldest teams (arguably on par with xf), and the younger kids’ families will see that. The first team seems to be on reasonably solid financial footing and now has a nice place to play, albeit in Tacoma. All of their teams are competitive, and they’ve come from clubs from all over the area rather than just their former partners (which is likely part of why their former partners concluded it no longer made sense to invest in the program). And they can now pitch themselves as the only local GDA option instead of 1 of 5 heavily diluted ecnl teams. So if GDA were on solid ground I’d think Reign probably would be too.

But GDA is a tophat or solar or two away from a complete cluster, and the people running the program at us soccer seem to have their heads in the sand and are up against an effective and competent marketing machine in ECNL. Travel in the northwest will be brutal next year with salt lake, Portland and Seattle having one team each, and a likely need for even more so cal crossover games to fill out a schedule. Unlesss GDA fixes things pronto I think they are toast, and I’m skeptical as to whether the folks at us soccer have the candlepower to do that.
 
We live in the Boston area. The DA/ECNL landscape here is the polar opposite of So. Cal. All of the top clubs from Boston to Philly (PDA, FC Stars, Scorpions, World Class, etc.) are in ECNL. The one strong club in DA is Penn Fusion, and if you believe the rumor mill they are begging to get back into ECNL. With HS soccer being so important in our little frozen corner of the country, DA is really struggling.
 
Same from my perspective in the Midwest. [Thanks for letting us play in your sandbox] DD quit GDA this time last year in order to play hs. Flipped to ECNL this year, and a measurable number of kids are doing the same this spring (quitting GDA to play hs). GDA midwest took huge hit last year with Hawks and Eclipse going All-in. Not sure any others in midwest will follow, but mw is already crippled. I'm watching Tophat. If they flip it's lights out. GDA can claim TX and SoCal, but the rest of the country is gone.
 
Wow, this has turned into quite the national forum.

In the NW, hearing the next shoe to drop is Real Colorado. No idea as to accuracy (but seems plausible as their DOC was an early critic of the initial GDA/ECNL split) and not quite as big as Slammers was last year or Top Hat would be, but a big deal for those of us Up North.
 
We live in the Boston area. The DA/ECNL landscape here is the polar opposite of So. Cal. All of the top clubs from Boston to Philly (PDA, FC Stars, Scorpions, World Class, etc.) are in ECNL. The one strong club in DA is Penn Fusion, and if you believe the rumor mill they are begging to get back into ECNL. With HS soccer being so important in our little frozen corner of the country, DA is really struggling.

The same is going to be true in Socal too from what I've heard......
 
My dd is a 2007 and we recently left the club she has played at for the past three years (which has GDA) and switched her to an ECNL program for next year.

Here in MA the middle school aged girls play on their town teams in addition to their club teams. That will continue into the high school ages. My dd’s 5/6 grade town team has 15 players. All 15 girls play club, with four different clubs represented on the team. 6 of the girls are headed to ECNL or DA in the next year or two. Our two biggest town rivals have similar roster make ups.

Very few of the girls are willing to forego playing town/high school for a DA product that, in our area, is a lot weaker than the NE ECNL conference. Just doesn’t make sense.
 
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