DA and ECNL

Simisoccerfan said:
I am a supporter but no I did not check the remainder of your results. Since GDA has only been in place for one year and almost all of the U20 team had played ECNL I am not sure how you can say this one loss is some sort of statement for the DA. Certainly some may say it says something about the whole of US Soccer but I would wait till more games are played.
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I didn't blame the loss on GDA. You and several others are so quick to defend all that is GDA. Today's U20 loss had nothing to do with GDA or ECNL. If over the years you have truly been following the women's game at the youth and national team levels you would know that we are no longer the Kraken on the international stage. Watching today's game made that crystal clear. Countries that were years behind us in the support and advancement of women's soccer are now competing with and beating us. The blame is placed directly at the front door of the federation.

Instead of fixing the problem, the federation has decided to create a national league which enabled DA clubs to suck hundreds of thousands of dollars from parents across the country. GDA should be for elite players only. Period! And all the GDA apologists who keep saying that's its only year one really don't understand the impact nationwide of the top clubs (who have a history of developing YNT and NT players) who have decided not to continue after only 1 year of DA competition.
 
megnation said:
17 of the 21 players just finished either their Freshman or Sophomore year in College..... Basically 17 of them were not around for GDA..

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...-u20wnt-fifa-u20-womens-world-cup-france-2018
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This. The U20s are a referendum on ECNL, not DA. The fact that the rest of the world's has just about competent closed the gap in the US despite the advantages of country provide woman athletes screams for exactly why DA (or something new and better) is needed if we want to produce better players.
ECNL as a gaming league that consolidates top teams for the primary purpose of helping colleges identify potential recruits has been wildly successful. However, ECNL as an environment and tool that maximizes player development is an utter failure. If course, that isn't what it is designed to be, so that isn't a indictment. But it is the exact reason why US Soccer decided something different is required.
 
timmyh said:
This. The U20s are a referendum on ECNL, not DA. The fact that the rest of the world's has just about competent closed the gap in the US despite the advantages of country provide woman athletes screams for exactly why DA (or something new and better) is needed if we want to produce better players.
ECNL as a gaming league that consolidates top teams for the primary purpose of helping colleges identify potential recruits has been wildly successful. However, ECNL as an environment and tool that maximizes player development is an utter failure. If course, that isn't what it is designed to be, so that isn't a indictment. But it is the exact reason why US Soccer decided something different is required.
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Time will tell, but I think this no high school policy is hurting the DA more than they believe. Boys don't really care but young ladies want to play with their friends.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
Time will tell, but I think this no high school policy is hurting the DA more than they believe. Boys don't really care but young ladies want to play with their friends.
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We were contacted by a DA coach as they were interested in my 12 yr DD. I showed her the business card they gave me after watching her at Nationals and she laughed and said "I want to play high school and stay with my team". That ended it there
 
SoccerMom05 said:
We were contacted by a DA coach as they were interested in my 12 yr DD. I showed her the business card they gave me after watching her at Nationals and she laughed and said "I want to play high school and stay with my team". That ended it there
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As bad as my daughter's high school team is, it keeps her happy and playing, it is not rare for these teen girls to quit all together.
 
I know of and heard of many girls that have opted out of playing for High School long before DA existed for girls. It's a personal choice and your not right or wrong or smart or stupid for choosing one or the other every individuals circumstances are different.
 
timmyh said:
This. The U20s are a referendum on ECNL, not DA. The fact that the rest of the world's has just about competent closed the gap in the US despite the advantages of country provide woman athletes screams for exactly why DA (or something new and better) is needed if we want to produce better players.
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It isn't the DA that is needed and the U20's is not a referendum on ECNL. It is a referendum on the selection process and the coaches that are making the choices. The announcers made numerous comments during the game about what is missing. Go back and listen to what they said.
 
Soccer43 said:
It isn't the DA that is needed and the U20's is not a referendum on ECNL. It is a referendum on the selection process and the coaches that are making the choices. The announcers made numerous comments during the game about what is missing. Go back and listen to what they said.
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For someone who didn't watch and doesn't have the time to go watch it, what were the announcers saying that is missing?
 
I don't remember the exact words but it was about the players not combining and working together and that they were playing independently on the field. One of the comments was they expected more integrated plays with all the camps they have had since January
 
timbuck said:
Bit of a topic shift- but with the 05 Slammers team that made it to Hawaii and just won Surf Cup pretty much owning So Cal and most others over the past 2 years- Have they considered playing up a year?
Or having some players play up? (Maybe they already have/do).
With Slammers going all in with ECNL- does this team lose a game over the next 12 months?
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No they don't lose a game unless Heat can pull off another upset like they did in Vegas cup but Slammers have recently beat Heat in Regionals and Surf cup. I don't see any other competitive match for them in ECNL. Maybe they should play up
 
ToonArmy said:
No they don't lose a game unless Heat can pull off another upset like they did in Vegas cup but Slammers have recently beat Heat in Regionals and Surf cup. I don't see any other competitive match for them in ECNL. Maybe they should play up
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This data is from Youth Soccer Rankings. Far West Regional record is not listed there. Might be a few other things missing or incorrect. But damn impressive!
Since the start of the Fall SCDSL season last year:
34 wins
2 ties
1 loss
139 Goals Scored
15 Goals allowed
23 of their wins were by 3 goals or greater
In 2017, under their prior club name they played up a year at Vegas Cup and won the 2nd flight.

My daughter has a few friends on the team. I've never watched them play. What makes them so dominant? They don't let in many goals - is their defense/gk that strong? They score a lot of goals- is their attack that strong?
 
U15s lost today (2-0) vs Portugal in the U15 Concacaf tourney. 17 of the 18 on the roster are from DA. Only one ECNL. As long as we have this kind of bias, our national teams are in trouble. Not saying the girls aren't talented on the roster, but are we really getting the best? I'm not sure with this model.
 
Dubs said:
U15s lost today (2-0) vs Portugal in the U15 Concacaf tourney. 17 of the 18 on the roster are from DA. Only one ECNL. As long as we have this kind of bias, our national teams are in trouble. Not saying the girls aren't talented on the roster, but are we really getting the best? I'm not sure with this model.
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Egos.
 
I find it hard to 100% blame DA for losses. Aren't the people that are coaching the DA teams the same people that were coaching ECNL 18 months ago?
And if our current US Womens National Team (Senior team and U23/20) are struggling because the rest of the world has caught up and is playing a more technical game than we are- Isn't ECNL partially to blame for that? ECNL was the "best league" around for the past 8 years, right?
 
Dubs said:
U15s lost today (2-0) vs Portugal in the U15 Concacaf tourney. 17 of the 18 on the roster are from DA. Only one ECNL. As long as we have this kind of bias, our national teams are in trouble. Not saying the girls aren't talented on the roster, but are we really getting the best? I'm not sure with this model.
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The US team has many 2004's and 2005's while most teams are consistent mostly of 2003's. Also I heard they lost on two pks. Pretty difficult to draw any conclusions with just one game lost.
 
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