outside!
DA
and the surf sucks!
2018-2019 SW ECNL Conference Discussion
- Thread starter GoWest
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Why don't NV teams play league games locally and SoCal teams play locally? If you want to travel for a tournament or a national event, I'm OK with that. I'm just talking about regular league games.
vegasguy
GOLD
But the DJs at the pool parties rage. What is wrong with the surf at wave pools
Desert Hound
DA
When parents sign up for DA or ECNL they know going in they will travel. For those that don't like to travel...like you, then as you said there are plenty of great teams in So Cal right?
Both DA and ECNL are national leagues. That is how they market themselves and that is what they let the clubs know what will happen...ie you will travel. Nobody forces clubs and / or parents to play in these leagues. These forums are full of people saying there are plenty of high quality teams that are not in DA or ECNL. If that is the case...play on those teams and stay local right?
shales1002
GOLD
This is why you travel to Vegas for soccer. its an adult play ground. Nothing beats the “beach” at Mandalay Bay.What's a wave pool?
Dude, that's a ridiculous response. I'm commenting on the bad set up of the leagues for SoCal families. I'm also advocating that the SoCal clubs to start pushing these leagues to have their regular league games only in SoCal.
And no, there are not plenty of high quality teams that are not in DA or ECNL.
Other than the Pacific Ocean.
outside!
DA
You need to like gambling, overprice drinks and cigarette smoke to enjoy Vegas. The last time I was in Vegas for an adults trip, we were all in bed snoring by 8:30 PM. I can't think of any SoCal beach that is worse than the "beach" at Mandalay where they yell at you for body surfing.
You're right. It is a choice. I just want SoCal clubs to make better choices when setting up these leagues.
shales1002
GOLD
SoCal is setting up the leagues other than the bogus DPL. How is that a better choice?
GoWest
GOLD
That's really not hard to do. A few clubs here simply need to make a phone call, to DA or ECNL and voice their concerns that SoCal families don't need to travel and it's a done deal. I can only imagine NorCal feels the same?
shales1002
GOLD
A part of the experience is the travel component. The only complaints I’m seeing in NorCal are about GDA and traveling to blow someone out the water. That’s not happening in NV or AZ for the majority of teams.We will let you guys keep thinking we are an easy win if that makes you feel better.
Desert Hound
DA
They are not the ones setting up these leagues. But they are certainly the ones signing on to these "national leagues".
I also hear people (not you) complaining about having to travel for playoffs. Many stating well we are the best...playoffs should be here. Again...these are national leagues and the playoffs should be held in different venues/states.
It seems to me the clubs like the prestige of playing in a national league...as do most of the parents. If they didn't then these clubs and parents would not be so eager to join and then have to travel.
Go stop by the Slammers website. Very quickly you will find out how many state, regional and more importantly to them national championships they have. Clubs and parents want these leagues and certainly seem willing to travel to play in them. Correct me if I am wrong but there seems to be at least a little demand for it
My confusion - I should have said "join." They should have told DA and ECNL that they will join, but only if you keep the conference games local.
Desert Hound
DA
At that point though...if they only wanted to keep things local, then why join DA or ECNL in the first place. So Cal had some great leagues in place before ECNL came around and those were certainly local.
Clearly the clubs and parents wanted something more at that time. The idea of being in a national league was attractive. Clubs were offered spots in ECNL, some turned it down. Later when clubs realized ECNL was a quality product then more clubs wanted in. Unfortunately by that time that ship had sailed and they were on the outside looking in.
I like the travel component - in limited doses. Don't need it for league games - just a few national events. I too feel bad for the NorCal parents. Traveling to Idaho? You got to be kidding me.
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vegasguy
GOLD
You are right preparing your child for the future by being responsible and traveling independently is a bad thing. I really want to got to college and pack his books every day for college I also (if he is fortunate enough) want to make sure his gloves guards and boots are ready for his training while in college. I may live in the dorm with him.
My son has been traveling to camps where he is responsible for himself, traveling by plane for a bit without me walking down the jetway with him since he was 10. I think it makes him a better person. Heat girls team travel and responsible to get to bed, wake up and be prepared all on their own and when they break the rules their are real consequences. This is part of the ECNL experience. Parents do not need to travel and Heat is developing more than athletes.
I choose to let my child travel to play again our it is our choice and the choice of many others.
My son has been traveling to camps where he is responsible for himself, traveling by plane for a bit without me walking down the jetway with him since he was 10. I think it makes him a better person. Heat girls team travel and responsible to get to bed, wake up and be prepared all on their own and when they break the rules their are real consequences. This is part of the ECNL experience. Parents do not need to travel and Heat is developing more than athletes.
I choose to let my child travel to play again our it is our choice and the choice of many others.
shales1002
GOLD
Thanks for the 2016/17 stats when ECNL was truly the best and the majority of SoCal talent was playing in 8 clubs. NV Definitely won ALOT more this season! Hell, Heat 04 lost 1 game in league and allowed 6 or 7 goals the entire season per TopDrawer Soccer. Three of the goals came when GK was at national camp. So, thanks dilution! Playing field has been leveled!
As Vegas guy stated, Heat team travels. There’s a lot to be learned from that experience. Especially money management. DDs become real cheap when they have to spend money.