You are close. The average team is good for about 12-13 cars, depending on age group and gender (13 year old girls teams are the best). The average number of games during day-light savings is 6-9 depending on age group. If we were to eliminate parking, then the facility clients (leagues, tournaments, clubs) would pay about triple for fields. Take for example a 100 team tournament, the daily parking expectation would be roughly 12,500 per day or $25k over a weekend. The tournament would pay roughly $8,000 for the fields per day. So if we stripped that $25k from the facility the tournament operator would pay $41k for the fields, instead of $16k. That $25k divided between 100 teams, which would be $250 per team so your $200 is fairly close.
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You are close. The average team is good for about 12-13 cars, depending on age group and gender (13 year old girls teams are the best). The average number of games during day-light savings is 6-9 depending on age group. If we were to eliminate parking, then the facility clients (leagues, tournaments, clubs) would pay about triple for fields. Take for example a 100 team tournament, the daily parking expectation would be roughly 12,500 per day or $25k over a weekend. The tournament would pay roughly $8,000 for the fields per day. So if we stripped that $25k from the facility the tournament operator would pay $41k for the fields, instead of $16k. That $25k divided between 100 teams, which would be $250 per team so your $200 is fairly close.
sorry, driving 1 -2 hours each way, $10 for parking, for one game - irritating. It is one thing to pay for parking if you are going to be there all day for a tournament but to pay that for one league game in my opinion is not right. Most pay over $10,000 per year for club soccer - $2500 average per child is dirt cheap.
Surfref
PREMIER
I remember the days of having to travel to Lancaster, Apple Valley or the San Bernardino ghetto for tournaments. I would much rather have Silverlakes, Oceanside, Great Park, Galloway and Polo Fields. I just refuse to Referee at Silverlakes or Galloway in July-September due to the heat.
Surfref
PREMIER
If Silverlakes had the trees, picnic tables, BBQ and other park amenities, you could play the game then relax, BBQ and hangout. That would make the parking fee a little more bearable.
younothat
PREMIER
Been a long process for Norco/Silverlakes; I recall they thread I started on the old board about 7-8 years ago about and all the trouble and tribulations on the land, site, local govt, investors, residencies with the homes near by, etc. The flood set back the project about 2 years as did the real estate mini recession when banking financing was very difficult to come by
Paid Parking was added at a later date and the project did grow beyond the initial scope; I had some background info since I worked on the project for one of the initial investors for a few months way back when.
Haven't been there much since the opening but it was really nice to see it get done finally even thorough it was still not finished when I was there last.
Socal/Oside has "free" parking during the USSDA playoffs and Showcases so its possible and I don't think the tournaments would have to raise the prices that much by what people are saying but yeah the clubs won't make as much money if they did that, so its more than meets the eye on the parking fees.
Paid Parking was added at a later date and the project did grow beyond the initial scope; I had some background info since I worked on the project for one of the initial investors for a few months way back when.
Haven't been there much since the opening but it was really nice to see it get done finally even thorough it was still not finished when I was there last.
Socal/Oside has "free" parking during the USSDA playoffs and Showcases so its possible and I don't think the tournaments would have to raise the prices that much by what people are saying but yeah the clubs won't make as much money if they did that, so its more than meets the eye on the parking fees.
Overlap
SILVER ELITE
the stand takes credit cards...just not the people collecting prior to entry
Parking can be free at Oceanside - park at the Sprinter stop and walk in - uphill about a half mile to the field gate. Technically that is not legal, since the lot is reserved for transit riders, so if that bothers you you could park at the next station east or west. Also, I haven't heard if anyone has challenged the temporary No Parking signs on the nearby streets that are put up by the soccer operators, not the City.
soccer dude
SILVER ELITE
I'm a cheapskate with parking and hate to pay $10 for one game. I know several tournaments do the one game per day rule to rake in the money on teams. If we could do the 2 games per day so we can hang out and enjoy the amenities, I wouldn't mind the $10 ($12 at oceanside now). So, for the referee comment above, would you be ok paying $10 only to ref 1 game? I think not.
Then maybe they could charge half the $10 for the one game. That would be nice.
coachrefparent
GOLD
This what they said --
"In 1994, the mining operation closed and the title to the property was transferred to the City of Oceanside. In order to make the site “safe and stable” for future use, the City began the process of reclaiming the site by filling the former mining ponds with non-hazardous items such as rocks and clean construction materials. Moody’s Reclamation is currently conducting the reclamation work by crushing rocks, concrete, and other aggregate material into smaller, compact sizes. Hazardous and contaminated material is not accepted or used anywhere at El Corazon."
Now - how well did they enforce that?
Surfref
PREMIER
Oh, hell no. I went to a venue once to referee and they wanted to charge me $20 for parking. I pulled a U-turn and called my assignor to make sure I would be reimbursed or I was not working the two games. I do feel your pain and have been there paying the parking fee just for one 80-90 minute game for my DD.
coachrefparent
GOLD
Another government rip-off! I had to pay to dump crap there to help build up their fields that they now get to charge me for?!!??
They seemed pretty diligent. Nothing's foolproof, but they were pretty strict as to what you could bring in. They would inspect your load, and the earthmover drivers were also watching what people dumped. I do recall them making people put things back in their trailer and haul away, now I know why.
SoccerCraze12
BRONZE
Silverlakes charges for walk-in's. Either way, I don't mind paying.
I am trying to remember the name of the fields in Temecula. They were west of the 15 sandwiched between a low ridge and the freeway. The fields were strung lengthwise one after another and parking was in a single row along the edge. Due to the arrangement you could walk almost 2/5 of a mile to your field. The road was dirt and very uneven and due to the parking arrangement there was no where to loop area or turn around easily and thus tons of traffic. The fields were a mess because they knew they were going to be developed into homes eventually and thus did not keep them up. By far the dirtiest portapotties which were generally on even dirt. Plus the area was not that developed yet and so there were not many places to eat or take the wife to the bathroom. I believe they charged for parking but I did not complain because it was better than going to Lancaster.