DA and ECNL

broshark said:
This confirmation will come as a shock to all those players on the new ECNL teams, including all the ones who played as Surf ECNL at Man City.
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Are you saying that Surf will not have ECNL for the upcoming season that starts in a few months and for which they have already had tryouts OR are you saying it will not be around for the following season of 2019-2020?
 
Desert Hound said:
Rumors. That is what forums are for.

Speaking of DA, ECNL and tracksuits, here is a good one.

So Sereno merged with Legacy in AZ and now are called RSL-AZ. They got DA.

So during the first DA ID session the main guy at the club was talking up DA saying how great it is. He then went on to say how lucky the club was due to the fact they were one of the few in the nation that had both DA and ECNL. So if your DD doesn't want DA, there is always ECNL. Some parent asked about DA2/DPL. He quickly responded and said DPL is nothing, not even sanctioned, not worth the clubs time and effort. The club has ECNL after all and that is just a hair below DA.

Fast forward 1 week to the next ID session. Earlier that day the club found out it LOST ECNL. So the same guy is up there talking to parents. Now he is telling them ECNL is on the way out nationally, it is not terribly good anyway and the club is lucky that we have DPL, a league that is FAR superior to ECNL.

Fast forward to a couple of weeks ago. In the process of talking up DPL as the pathway to DA, he goes on to state that they walked away from ECNL (vs the truth of it being taken away).

Someone should have asked him if DPL has a patch like DA and ECNL does.
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BE is just concerned about the players..... HAHAHAHA! His title should be Salesman.
 
Fact said:
Are you saying that Surf will not have ECNL for the upcoming season that starts in a few months and for which they have already had tryouts OR are you saying it will not be around for the following season of 2019-2020?
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I'm saying Surf hasn't lost ECNL, at least not as far as any current ECNL teams are aware. I have no knowledge of anything beyond this upcoming season.
 
Surf has been told, 2018-19 will be the last of both. They will have to pick one or the other next Spring. Unless this has changed since Monday.

So let’s take the disscusion further, what if they choose ECNL? Blues chooses ECNL, Slammers stays. Is ECNL not a more viable choice?

DA is becoming regionally strong, not nationally next year. ECNL will be strong everywhere except So Cal and Texas next year.

Would this be a ground breaking decision? An outside of the box decision? Or death for Surf?
 
With US soccer holding DA playoffs for next 5 yrs at Oceanside fields, I'm guessing they'll stick with DA
 
Contracts can be broken. Plus the Oceanside Complex is more separate from Surf Soccer than Del Mar is.

That being said its a theoretical question only? I don't think they would have the balls to be a visionary.
 
Soccer said:
Surf has been told, 2018-19 will be the last of both. They will have to pick one or the other next Spring. Unless this has changed since Monday.

So let’s take the disscusion further, what if they choose ECNL? Blues chooses ECNL, Slammers stays. Is ECNL not a more viable choice?

DA is becoming regionally strong, not nationally next year. ECNL will be strong everywhere except So Cal and Texas next year.

Would this be a ground breaking decision? An outside of the box decision? Or death for Surf?
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This makes more sense than "Surf has lost ECNL". Seems like the writing is on the wall for DA unless the dual clubs in So Cal all go that way. But wouldn't it be funny for the other clubs in SD which finally felt like they had made it (LA Galaxy SD, Albion etc.) if Surf and Blues went back to ECNL?
 
broshark said:
This makes more sense than "Surf has lost ECNL". Seems like the writing is on the wall for DA unless the dual clubs in So Cal all go that way. But wouldn't it be funny for the other clubs in SD which finally felt like they had made it (LA Galaxy SD, Albion etc.) if Surf and Blues went back to ECNL?
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Exactly my point!
 
broshark said:
This makes more sense than "Surf has lost ECNL". Seems like the writing is on the wall for DA unless the dual clubs in So Cal all go that way. But wouldn't it be funny for the other clubs in SD which finally felt like they had made it (LA Galaxy SD, Albion etc.) if Surf and Blues went back to ECNL?
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Surf will pick DA. You're a dreamer if you think otherwise.
 
Fact said:
Surf will pick DA. You're a dreamer if you think otherwise.
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They'll pick whichever program looks like it's going to be the most prestigious going forward. At the rate DA clubs are dropping across the country, it may not be such a clear choice this time next year.
 
I wonder what would happen if DA mandated that clubs need to offer both DA and GDA? Before GDA an argument could be made that the fully funded DA clubs were violating California's "Fair Play" act.
 
outside! said:
I wonder what would happen if DA mandated that clubs need to offer both DA and GDA? Before GDA an argument could be made that the fully funded DA clubs were violating California's "Fair Play" act.
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Especially the ones that used city/county fields.

You really need to have another kid (and make sure it is a girl) so you having standing to challenge some of these issues you keep pointing out. Very valid points.
 
Fact said:
Especially the ones that used city/county fields.

You really need to have another kid (and make sure it is a girl) so you having standing to challenge some of these issues you keep pointing out. Very valid points.
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There is not a soccer club out there that does not use public fields at some point.

Youngest is a male, so no go on standing. Besides, in addition to standing, you need to be able to pay the lawyers, court fees, etc. I did explore the court option earlier, but could not find any lawyers that were interested. I let CIFSD know they were violating Title IX, but they don't care. The reason I do keep bringing it up is in case someone else has the needed resources and desire but hadn't thought of it.
 
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