2 new girls DA clubs announced

Kicker4Life said:
Despite my annoyance that every one of your posts is in some way anti DA, I completely agree with the fact that there is not a need for 2 separate leagues. One Elite league with proper geographic representation.

Just please stop regurgitating the same story on various threads.
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Some times pills are hard to swallow. ;)
 
LadiesMan217 said:
Why are you posting ECNL in this thread. Move over to the AYSO thread.
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One of these clubs was DA...but I'm commenting in the wrong region. If DA doesn't adapt some super simple rule changes, it'll become more of a top Socal league after next season. Hopefully they do, so we can have a TRUE top league nationally. For now, DA is a top league in a few key regions...and less next year. Your comment is indicative of the ignorance and arrogance of those that run that league.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Despite my annoyance that every one of your posts is in some way anti DA, I completely agree with the fact that there is not a need for 2 separate leagues. One Elite league with proper geographic representation.

Just please stop regurgitating the same story on various threads.
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So you admit that GDA wasn't needed? ECNL was doing very well and US Soccer didn't care about the girls into they figured out that they could make some $$$$.
 
MakeAPlay said:
So you admit that GDA wasn't needed? ECNL was doing very well and US Soccer didn't care about the girls into they figured out that they could make some $$$$.
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I believe I have said that on numberous occasions from the start. ECNL’s mutual exclusivity enabled DA to take hold in SoCal.
 
Kicker4Life said:
ECNL’s mutual exclusivity enabled DA to take hold in SoCal.
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Was that the part where ECNL was either being corrupt by allowing then current ECNL clubs to maintain their local monopolies, or the part where ECNL was stupidly ignoring local competitive clubs?
 
outside! said:
Was that the part where ECNL was either being corrupt by allowing then current ECNL clubs to maintain their local monopolies, or the part where ECNL was stupidly ignoring local competitive clubs?
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I think that it was the part where everything was working fine and now it isn't. Most of these locally "competitive" clubs had and still have no record of getting players to the highest level or winning seriously contested championships and that has yet to change.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I think that it was the part where everything was working fine and now it isn't. Most of these locally "competitive" clubs had and still have no record of getting players to the highest level or winning seriously contested championships and that has yet to change.
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That is just it, it was not working fine in Southern California. SoCal clubs were travelling to play games that were no better competition than they could get at home. You can refuse to accept this fact, but it is still a fact. When Surf's ECNL National Champs team lost in the 1/4 finals of Surf Cup to a local, non-ECNL team, it was just one of the signs that ECNL were either naively ignoring reality, or were trying to protect Collen Chester's monopoly. So which is it? Was ECNL ignorant, or corrupt?
 
MakeAPlay said:
I think that it was the part where everything was working fine and now it isn't. Most of these locally "competitive" clubs had and still have no record of getting players to the highest level or winning seriously contested championships and that has yet to change.
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It's changing right now... in this region at least
 
outside! said:
That is just it, it was not working fine in Southern California. SoCal clubs were travelling to play games that were no better competition than they could get at home. You can refuse to accept this fact, but it is still a fact. When Surf's ECNL National Champs team lost in the 1/4 finals of Surf Cup to a local, non-ECNL team, it was just one of the signs that ECNL were either naively ignoring reality, or were trying to protect Collen Chester's monopoly. So which is it? Was ECNL ignorant, or corrupt?
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That is simply not true and you can continue to say it's a banana when it is an apple but that doesn't change the facts. The local competition was nowhere close to what you could get by going and playing on the road. I'm sorry but the local teams weren't of the same quality as PDA, Eclipse Select, Real Colorado, FC Stars, Crossfire and more! You are really naive if you believe otherwise.

I understand that you are a Carlsbad homer but there is a reason that the best North San Diego county players go to Surf or Blues.

I think that Thanos puts it best.

"I know what it’s like to lose. To feel so desperately that you’re right, yet to fail nonetheless. As lightning turns the legs to jelly. I ask you to what end? Dread it, run from it, destiny arrives all the same." Thanos of Titan
 
outside! said:
I know of one YWNT player that came from a non-ECNL club a few years before GDA.
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Are we still talking about YNT players? The YNT pools are a joke. The best players aren't just good in training. And I know a whole bunch of YNT players that came from ECNL clubs including the only two Full WNT players that never played in college. Checkmate.
 
MakeAPlay said:
So you admit that GDA wasn't needed? ECNL was doing very well and US Soccer didn't care about the girls into they figured out that they could make some $$$$.[/QUOT
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I don't agree with your comment about it being about money. Other than possible sponsorship money and DA merchandise, I don't see how they are making much money. The only fee the collect from the clubs is a $50 fee per player and coach for registration fees. There is a performance bond a club needs to post to be in the DA but is relatively small and refundable. They provide all event fees (no tournament/showcase fees to attend) and all referee fees for all league and showcase games. At showcases their are multiple medical stations, ice baths, free water, Powerade, fruit and snacks not only for players but for spectators too. The DA merchandise they sell is no different than what is sold at Surf Cup or the Players Showcase. They have scouts at every field and film every game.

In my opinion, US Soccer is losing money by running the USSDA.

Now the argument to make is whether the clubs are making much money by having DA. My assessment here is that appears to be more a break even operation.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
I don't agree with your comment about it being about money. Other than possible sponsorship money and DA merchandise, I don't see how they are making much money. The only fee the collect from the clubs is a $50 fee per player and coach for registration fees. There is a performance bond a club needs to post to be in the DA but is relatively small and refundable. They provide all event fees (no tournament/showcase fees to attend) and all referee fees for all league and showcase games. At showcases their are multiple medical stations, ice baths, free water, Powerade, fruit and snacks not only for players but for spectators too. The DA merchandise they sell is no different than what is sold at Surf Cup or the Players Showcase. They have scouts at every field and film every game.

In my opinion, US Soccer is losing money by running the USSDA.

Now the argument to make is whether the clubs are making much money by having DA. My assessment here is that appears to be more a break even operation.
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They would not do it if it was break even. They are reaping the rewards of status. Being a DA club attracts more players at all levels.
 
Fact said:
They would not do it if it was break even. They are reaping the rewards of status. Being a DA club attracts more players at all levels.
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Does it attract more players than being in ECNL? I personally don't think there is more than a marginal amount of you money you can make through attracting more players because your expenses increase with every player. The real money is made by running tournaments and charging parents for parking.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Does it attract more players than being in ECNL? I personally don't think there is more than a marginal amount of you money you can make through attracting more players because your expenses increase with every player. The real money is made by running tournaments and charging parents for parking.
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Fine lets assume you are right. More players even at a break even allow for you to enter more teams in other clubs tournaments and they reciprocate with the same number of teams in your tournament ...so more tournament money.

Also more players, means more games and thus more parking money. Want to argue this too?
 
MakeAPlay said:
I think that it was the part where everything was working fine and now it isn't. Most of these locally "competitive" clubs had and still have no record of getting players to the highest level or winning seriously contested championships and that has yet to change.
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That is factually in accurate at least for Beach and honestly my region is all I truly care about.

So DMCV and the new club which is essentially Westside Breakers has their track record you speak of?

We have had this conversation multiple times and in the end we always end up agreeing. So I’m not really sure why it is coming up again.
 
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