An amazing case for reducing gun ownership in America

tenacious said:
What's your plan? To militarize the nations schools is what I hear everyone else pushing. Don't see that winning over the women in the suburbs...
You can call me a dreamer... but the assault riffle ban worked at reducing these type of attacks in the past. I'm glad we let the ban expire, and tried it. But for me it's time to say this is one where government regulation worked better.
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You don't need to militarize (whatever that means) the nations schools. School shootings happen so infrequently. But using a tiered system to elevate awareness of a potential attack would be a good way for schools to mobilize the NG when an attack is imminent. I.D. checks are an easy way to ensure that non-students do not gain access to schools. Just common sense, but not a one size fits all plan that will bust the bank just on administrative cost alone. This national conversation that the U.S. Senate is supposed to respond to is insanely stupid. Most states don't have the same problems with school shootings. Lets not turn this in to a National mandate. State and local governments need to get plugged in and utilize the resources, like the States NG, to deter and stop attacks where needed.
 
tenacious said:
Again... we have a problem with attacks by assault riffle. That's not me saying that... that's America saying that. You're crazy if you think militarizing the nations public schools is an answer to this problem.

Huff, puff... beat your chest. None of it's going to change the fact that if you ban assault riffles and have cops start confiscating them every time they see them it makes a lot of sense it would cut down on the problem. Not saying it's the ideal response- but if the choices are arming the janitor & first grade teachers, or banning assault riffles I'm for banning assault rifles.
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But you need assault rifles to enforce that ban.
 
tenacious said:
Again... we have a problem with attacks by assault riffle. That's not me saying that... that's America saying that. You're crazy if you think militarizing the nations public schools is an answer to this problem.

Huff, puff... beat your chest. None of it's going to change the fact that if you ban assault riffles and have cops start confiscating them every time they see them it makes a lot of sense it would cut down on the problem. Not saying it's the ideal response- but if the choices are arming the janitor & first grade teachers, or banning assault riffles I'm for banning assault rifles.
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This isn't nazi Germany, nobody is gonna confiscate legally purchased weapons.
The fact is, the vast majority of gun violence and murders are a result of pistols, not rifles.
 
Lion Eyes said:
The folks in Texas taking responsibility & making sure their children are safe....
This was done years before Trump came into office.
But you know that...at least you should know that.
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Maybe if it's some fancy school where they are worried about famous people's kids getting taken or in "special" cases then I could see militarizing a school yard.
But I've got to tell you... to me it just sounds like one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. There was a cop at this last shooting who ran away. But janitors and lunch ladies are going to solve the problem? Come on. That's just stupid.
 
Lion Eyes said:
This isn't nazi Germany, nobody is gonna confiscate legally purchased weapons.
The fact is, the vast majority of gun violence and murders are a result of pistols, not rifles.
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I don't think the topic is trying to prevent all gun murders. Moreover not only am I, but I think most American's are fine with people owning guns. It's the domestic terrorist, lone wolf attacks with military grade assault riffles at schools and malls that I'd like to see fixed. I.e. crazies with guns that can fire hundreds of high-velocity rounds per minute.

As to confiscating them. Ask Donald Trump, if you come to NYC with an assault rifle they are going to take it away from you. In fact all guns are banned and have been since the 90's. So I'd assume the courts have ruled the government can regulate which weapons it thinks are safe... enough.
 
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Sheriff Joe said:
Great video.

I wonder if this gun was purchased legally?


‘Not Going To Be Victims’: Watch Mother-Daughter Pair Use Guns To Defend Liquor Store
10 hours ago
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BA0QqUMISTAJ&usg=AOvVaw3lJkBIDIMSby0MFyugOSp1
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If that was my wife and daughter I'd personally feel a little better knowing they lived in a safe neighborhood, with effectively local government and police department that there wasn't really any risk of them getting into a gun fight.
 
100 bullets in 4 minutes...
Hmm maybe I don't blame that cop for running away. What do you think the police officer was carrying- 6 bullets maybe?

He Made the Gun That Slaughtered Parkland's Kids
CEO James Debney makes $5 million a year for manufacturing the type of gun that killed 17 students at Stoneman High.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/he-made-the-gun-that-slaughtered-parklands-kids?ref=home

It’s the gun companies, stupid.

Yes, the FBI failed to act on a tip from somebody close to Nikolas Cruz that he had a firearm and was liable to “explode” and go into a school “just shooting the place up.”

Yes, the Broward County Sheriff’s office received two tips—one from a neighbor’s son, another from an unnamed caller—that Cruz had firearms and talked of committing a school shooting.

Yes, the Broward County Sheriff’s office also reports it received a request from Cruz’s aunt to secure his firearms, but dropped the matter after a family friend offered to take possession of the weapons.

Yes, the Broward County deputy assigned to Marjory Douglas Stoneman High School failed to take appropriate action when the shooting erupted.

Yes, other deputies may have similarly failed after they arrived.

murdered 17 students and staff with over 100 bullets in four minutes.
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Bruddah IZ said:
You don't need to militarize (whatever that means) the nations schools. School shootings happen so infrequently. But using a tiered system to elevate awareness of a potential attack would be a good way for schools to mobilize the NG when an attack is imminent. I.D. checks are an easy way to ensure that non-students do not gain access to schools. Just common sense, but not a one size fits all plan that will bust the bank just on administrative cost alone. This national conversation that the U.S. Senate is supposed to respond to is insanely stupid. Most states don't have the same problems with school shootings. Lets not turn this in to a National mandate. State and local governments need to get plugged in and utilize the resources, like the States NG, to deter and stop attacks where needed.
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Cuz no one shoots up the poor schools?
 
Bruddah IZ said:
You don't need to militarize (whatever that means) the nations schools. School shootings happen so infrequently. But using a tiered system to elevate awareness of a potential attack would be a good way for schools to mobilize the NG when an attack is imminent. I.D. checks are an easy way to ensure that non-students do not gain access to schools. Just common sense, but not a one size fits all plan that will bust the bank just on administrative cost alone. This national conversation that the U.S. Senate is supposed to respond to is insanely stupid. Most states don't have the same problems with school shootings. Lets not turn this in to a National mandate. State and local governments need to get plugged in and utilize the resources, like the States NG, to deter and stop attacks where needed.
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Kent State?
 
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