** correction. Michael was let go November 2010. Darn my bad handwriting on my notes.
Coach Movement and 2018 Assignments
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Yeah, that was my feeling also back then. But that group of disgruntled parents that left with Toumi spent the better part of five months spreading half truths, innuendos, and flat out lies about CSC. As I'm sure you remember, I got tired of all the misinformation and called SDJ out on it. Remember "I know a guy"? A lot like "I talked to a boys DA coach". SDJ never produced "his guy" back then, just as you won't produce your coach now. And SDJ's had to admit that that he "... had some bad information" and his speculations based on that bad info was wrong. I had to keep good notes because SDJ was encougaging me to do the research ... and I wanted to make sure I got the fact right ... unlike some people here.
So ... I already provided you the information on Michael from his own bio that said he was at CSC until 2010. Below is an excerpt from an email my daughters manager sent on Fri 8/26/2011 11:39 AM:
Hello,
We will have an added day of training next week with Toumi (a coach and the assistant director). The club is adding these days so that all teams are evaluated by both the director (Rene) and Toumi in order to give feedback to the coaches and parents. So the schedule is as follows:
Monday/Wed- regular practice @ Allied Gardens 4:30-5:30
Tues8/30- Toumi at 4:30 at Pershing.
Have a nice day,
So as you can see, Rene was at CSC as DOC in 2011. I guess that is your bad also! hahhahhaha. Yeah, it's sad I save that info, but again, I'm kind of against spreading half truths and lies, and presenting them as "Fact". Yeah, I know, I'll get a "Dumb" rating from you, again.We will have an added day of training next week with Toumi (a coach and the assistant director). The club is adding these days so that all teams are evaluated by both the director (Rene) and Toumi in order to give feedback to the coaches and parents. So the schedule is as follows:
Monday/Wed- regular practice @ Allied Gardens 4:30-5:30
Tues8/30- Toumi at 4:30 at Pershing.
Have a nice day,
Ok, you just keep on justifying that double standard however you want.
I completely understand. Why continue an argument based on half truths and lies that you can't substantiate, and cannot win.
Which club signs its DA coaches to a half a season at a time?
Produce your original email, it is interesting that a team would only practice for an hour. Even rec teams at the youngest ages practice more. Are you sure that is part of a real email? Of course no comments about Howard or other Docs. What is your name? I am suppose to out a coach that gave me private information, get real. I have seen plenty of soccer coaches contracts, have you?
If you want to make CSC the center of this thread, explain to me what Rene has done for the club since he has been there, either size, money or development? I honestly don't follow him so please educate us with the facts.
And would you like to tell us your real name and where your kid plays?
Back to the topic, if Kris is going to SD Surf, isn't it going to be the same old pay to play system? I don't know anything about him but I assume he follows the same system as his siblings.
Also, can anyone confirm Spooner to Albion and if so how did he get out of his contract mid season?
Also, can anyone confirm Spooner to Albion and if so how did he get out of his contract mid season?
According to you, his DA contract ended, right?
Tell us which club signs its DA coaches to a half season contract. You said your contact confirmed it. Should be a simple thing unless you were lying.
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Kris is a done deal. He is coming to SD surf.
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Curious - some coaches coach both DA and youngers that end in November. Doubt coaches have 2 contracts. You assume club would base contracts thru DA team but you never know. Since DA is first year in existence and old contract ended maybe two November's ago and most contracts would be annually it might make sense the newer yearly contract did indeed ended this past November. I'm guessing they did not exercise a 17 month contract just for DA. Just a thought.
Apparently your daughter never played for Gabe at U8. He only held one hour practices for his U8 team. It really is the whole email ... less the managers name and the distribution list. I'll be more than happy to show you the email ... along with the others I pulled up from the manager showing one hour practices. Just let me know where you want to meet and I'll show you all of them. It can be at MBHS at a practice ... if that is where your daughter practices.
I do think it's funny that you, the person who throws out crap and can't substantiate it, is demanding I produce the original email. I think I've provided you with everywhere I got my facts from. But it's out there, I'll produce it for you. Just tell me where you want to meet.
I didn't see a real need to go back any further. I showed you that Michael Nmounde was ADOC from 2003 to 2004, and DOC or Boys Director from 2004 to 2010 (November 2010 by your recollection). And Rene has been DOC from 2011 until present. Now there may have been an interim DOC between November 2010 and when Rene took the position in 2011. But really, how much further do you need to go back? We only got here based on your snide little comment "How many DOCs did Crusades go thru back then? Was it 4 in 5 years?" I think I addressed your original question. But I do realize that your attack on CSC was just you trying to deflect attention from the fact that Toumi has been at four clubs in five years. And it was time to stop blaming the clubs and take some ownership. I get it. It appears to be your defense mechanism.
I understand. That was pretty much the same reason I could never get "San Diego Joe" to put me in touch with "his guy" so I could corroborate his data. I think all "JoeBieber" wanted to know was what club. You see, when you start making claims as statements of fact and can't substantiate them, you start looking ... less than credible.
And, No, I've never seen a coaches contract. I've never been that interested. I'm mainly interested in getting the best coaching and the best experience for my daughters for what I pay. Having a coach bail mid season does not meet my expectation.
I never did. I only jumped in when you started making false claims about CSC. Again, if you can't backup your accusations with facts, don't make them.
I really don't follow Rene either. I never made any claims about him. Just pointed out to you the time frame that I can substantiate that he has been at CSC. I will say that every time I had any interface with Rene when we were at CSC, he was upfront, honest, and sincere. And he was very knowledgeable about soccer in general. This was my personal experience from even before SDJ implored me to confront him. But then again, I never had an ax to grind with the club ... so I probably wasn't looking hard enough.
At any rate, I look forward to meeting you and showing you the original email. Just let me know where and we can work out a time.
Will Rells is their gm. He is a lunatic. Will Rells is an idiot who enjoys screaming at 8yr olds.
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There are quite a few people that signed up just to post about this new club! Ray and Toumi are both good developmental coaches, and I like who they have brought in for the central SD coaching. Will Rells would not be my choice of coach but it appears he is only in East County. My prediction is that central SD will be the successful leg of this club.
Now can we go back to the surf news, and who is coaching once pauley leaves? And is it true his sister could leave with him?
@avh actually you made my point which was at least 4 DOCs in 4-5 years at CSC. You admit there was MN, then an interim DOC, and then Rene. If you add in the DOC before MN's 2 years that makes 4 DOCs in 5 years.
I'll take your word that Gabe only did 1 hours practices for U8 as mine did not play U8.
My point is that coaches move around. They have a right just like everyone else to take a job opportunity that they believe will benefit their family. Every profession does it so why can't coaches. My kids have had teaches leave during the school year which is way more disruptive to their learning. Geeze this is just kids soccer and a coach leaving is not going to impact their life so get over it.
However I call sour grapes. I have discovered that you think I am a Sharks parent that followed him but I have no child nor family playing at Albion. I would think that you would be happy that he is leaving Albion given your concern over playing time. But I bet that it will not be any better with a new coach. Not because your child is not worthy of more playing time but because of the pay to play system that starts with the track suit wearing used car salesmen. You are not willing to play his game and that is what hurts your child's playing time.
And oh by the way, talking about loyalty and keeping commitments, it does not look good when you come up with a feeble excuse so your older dd not travel back east with her team. That hurts both of your dds in the eyes of NG.
I'll take your word that Gabe only did 1 hours practices for U8 as mine did not play U8.
My point is that coaches move around. They have a right just like everyone else to take a job opportunity that they believe will benefit their family. Every profession does it so why can't coaches. My kids have had teaches leave during the school year which is way more disruptive to their learning. Geeze this is just kids soccer and a coach leaving is not going to impact their life so get over it.
However I call sour grapes. I have discovered that you think I am a Sharks parent that followed him but I have no child nor family playing at Albion. I would think that you would be happy that he is leaving Albion given your concern over playing time. But I bet that it will not be any better with a new coach. Not because your child is not worthy of more playing time but because of the pay to play system that starts with the track suit wearing used car salesmen. You are not willing to play his game and that is what hurts your child's playing time.
And oh by the way, talking about loyalty and keeping commitments, it does not look good when you come up with a feeble excuse so your older dd not travel back east with her team. That hurts both of your dds in the eyes of NG.
Pauley and his sister are going nowhere if we listen to Joe Bieber. Their contracts go til the end of the season.
Ahhh, were back to your deflection technique. First it was on CSC, and now it is on me. Let me remind you of you statements that got this started. And, no, it had nothing to do with your modified point "that coaches move around".
... a flat out lie on your part, and ...
You clearly put the blame for two of Toumi's three moves on others. I pointed out that with four clubs in five years, you really have to stop blaming the clubs and the "untrustworthy track suit wearing used car salesman" and take some ownership. Now your point is that coaches move around. So, it appears, you are done blaming the clubs and the "untrustworthy track suit wearing used car salesman". We've made progress here.
So are you taking my word for it that Rene was DOC, at a minimum, in 2011 also? Funny how someone who demanded I produce the email is willing to take my word on it now. But, don't worry, I understand and expected that one also. It's easy to talk big when you are hiding behind a keyboard. I'm still more than happy to meet with you and show you the emails. Name the place and we can work out a time.
Should anyone care about this? Is he the next Pauley?
Whether or not a coach stays for the duration of his contract is up to the coach. See Toumi, who bailed halfway through.
BUT, I'd be willing to bet that Pauley stays through the end of his, until the season ends.
We're all still waiting for you to tell us which club signs its DA coaches to half the season at a time. Your credibility is shot.