Opinions on todays transgender players?

Zvezdas said:
Some here are using god conveniently for personal prejudices. Instead of using religion to excuse the more banal prejudices that people harbor, those who believe in a god should use their faith as a motivator to be kind and do good!
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Seems as though you "liked" Chargerfans post? So you too choose to judge people that you don't know?
 
chargerfan said:
These are the same people that would have balked at their child playing with African American children in the 50s, and gay children in the 90s. Let's hope that with our children's generation comes more enlightenment.
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Too funny, you are arguing something that you know nothing about and have no experience in.
Typical white, straight SJW.
 
Multi Sport said:
You keep posting diagnosable condition as if that is supposed to mean something. It's not only ignorant to try and lump all, as you put it, diagnosable conditions together but I will guess that people with the "diagnosable " diseases of Cancer, Auto Immune Disease, Parkinsons the list goes on, would say that they are not even remotely the same as being gender confused.

I also doubt that people that are battling Cancer and other such "diagnosable diseases " are overly concerned if they can, or if their kid can, play on a soccer team...
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Would "athlete's foot" have been more palatable to you? I use term "diagnosable condition" on purpose... seems that some people aren't able to see similarities in what we're discussing here...

Simple question, are you ok allowing a kid w/ cancer/diabetes/autism/common cold/[insert condition of choice here] play soccer (assuming he/she is able/wants to)? If so, you should not disallow a kid w/ gender identity disorder same privilege... and note that it's not "gender confusion" as this implies they're somehow confused and perhaps some form of education/explanation would change that...
 
TheIronCurtain said:
Would "athlete's foot" have been more palatable to you? I use term "diagnosable condition" on purpose... seems that some people aren't able to see similarities in what we're discussing here...

Simple question, are you ok allowing a kid w/ cancer/diabetes/autism/common cold/[insert condition of choice here] play soccer (assuming he/she is able/wants to)? If so, you should not disallow a kid w/ gender identity disorder same privilege... and note that it's not "gender confusion" as this implies they're somehow confused and perhaps some form of education/explanation would change that...
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Simple answer. If the kid wants to play let them play in on their biological team. Curious though, when did GID become diagnosable?
 
chargerfan said:
Gender is not black and white. That's science and human nature. Why do you take issue with that?
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Geeze. You are so angry you cannot even see that I am agreeing with you. I said gender is not black and white. That is why I brought up Caster and people wanting a sliding scale. Goodbye.
 
Multi Sport said:
Simple answer. If the kid wants to play let them play in on their biological team. Curious though, when did GID become diagnosable?
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So, seems to me we're missing a whole league here...
push_up said:
You prove my point. The DSM is a book that describes all types of mental illness. :)
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Most comments I've made thus far, I tried (though may not have succeeded) to stay away from calling people names or attacking them personally... YOU on the other hand, don't deserve that. Keep on stigmatizing mental illness as something that is different from other illness. Keep telling yourself that those w/ mental illness are weaker than you or somehow less deserving. Illness is an illness regardless of which body part if affects and warrants a basic amount of human treatment. To YOU, it seems that mental illness isn't worthy of same amount of understanding or basic human compation... Luckily, DSM IV also has a definition for what you're suffering from: http://www.psywww.com/intropsych/ch12_abnormal/categorization_of_intellectual_disability.html
 
@push_up, you should try to put as much effort in to educating yourself as you do in to tagging posts as 'dumb' cause you eithet choose not to or are incapable of understanding/agreeing with their content...
 
I am not a doctor, an expert in gender identification, or a parent of a transgender. I can honestly say that I really only know a couple of people in my lifetime that fit in this category. Do I foresee the idea that this thread introduces being a big issue? No. Do is see it causing trouble inthe future? Yes. The problem is that even though it is classified as a diagnosable condition it is not the type of thing that is able to be determined by a blood test or lab sample. It comes down to a feeling. And for every person who is certain that they are the opposite sex than their biology, there are probably a bunch more who "feel" like that may be but just,don't know. So if a team is playing another team with someone who may be of the opposite gender the only response needed by that person or their coach to an inquiry is that they say that the player identifies as a girl. They don't have to be in any sort of transition program, don't have to look like a girl, or anything else traditionally associated with gender identity. Are you going to be the opposing coach who is now labeled as a bigot, homophobe, or flat earther (something that came up earlier in this thread)? This s the issue that school administrators, the military, businesses etc are dealing with already . Does that boy want to use the girls bathroom because they are legitimately feeling like they are female or are they just being a pervert? Will people take advantage of the confusion for,their own gain? Most,definitely. Are people running scared with fears of offending someone or being sued by not allowing it to happen? Yes. Do I know the answer? No. ( Great philosophical discussion though, it's too bad some on here get emotional and just insult and name call simply because they have a difference of,opinion)
 
TheIronCurtain said:
Is this a joke? Both are medical conditions w/ scientifically recognized treatment options. What if a kid shows up on your sons/daughters team that has been diagnosed w
gigantism, r u going to tell them they have a choice to play too? i dont see this having anything to do w 'integrity of sport', but keep using that as an excuse to discriminate. These are kids! This kid is already dealing w enough, give her a chance to have some modicum of childhood!
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No.
 
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