maybe yes, maybe not.Not sure some of the DA teams could handle LVSA Silver.
Vegas cup is a terrible tournament. Bad communication from the tournament, always hotel issues for some plus not knowing where your team is playing until long after you have to select a hotel sucks (it could be a 30 minute drive from hotel to field), up until this year some really goods teams got shut out, it is always freezing and 50% of teams have a late Saturday game that interferes with seeing shows, which is one of the main draws to Vegas in the first place. I was looking at the schedules thinking without DA teams there would be no need for night games but I see plenty of 7 and 8 pm games. Yikes!
Ok I will agree that the fields are great. But twice we booked a hotel near Bette Wilson fields given our age group and that we would be on the top flight and both time we were the odd bracket out playing in Henderson. Plus we were never able to see shows on Saturday night unless we missed our kids games since we have always had a late game. Also families we know have been double changed for hotels.I wouldn't say it's terrible. We've played the last 4-5 years and only major complaint I have is the Refs that aren't from Cal south have been really bad. Besides that fields have been great, competition and balanced brackets have been good. Game times have been perfect up until this year (Got stuck with an 8:00am game). Kids and parents have always had a good time. The hotels have never been an issue for us. For the Youngers It's pretty easy to see what fields were at before we've booked. Almost all the SS fields are in the same area of north Vegas. May not be as consistent for the olders.
They are all in High School and cant play....So cal disappeared from the 03 group.
I agree the competition is weaker but bringing DA won't change things as DA can not play non-DA. So there are many "we will never know" scenarios out there. Many tournaments are weaker based on DA's exclusivity. US Soccer obviously does not see it that way.
They are all in High School and cant play....
Just had a look at the Vegas comp ... Ouch. Not much chance the USSDA ever approves Vegas Cup as an optional tourney so not to worry vegasguy. But please tell us ... Which teams competing in the Silver (or let's be honest ... Gold) divisions this year would be beating up on the top DA U13-17 sides from CAS, NTX or CO?
On another note however, we have been told that GDA and international teams will be grouped together with ECNL teams in the DIGC this Easter, so ... maybe we will know ... Regardless -- it's gonna be BA!
Relax Chris Knight. I never said DA would approve Vegas Cup. What I did say is that there are teams that are non DA that could beat some DA teams. DA is so exclusive but not all teams are the best of the best and there are very good players outside the DA that play in other geographical areas. Vegas has many kids playing at many DA's on the west coast and others that have been offered DA spots but chose not to move.
There are teams from Vegas that can beat DA squads. 03 LVSA silver, maybe Heat 03, Heat 99s, Downtown 00s, there is a Players team 99 or 00s that has a good group. LVSA 02 maybe. Maybe Heat 04 would compete. they are not top DA teams but these teams do not finish in the bottom of the DA either. But then we will never know is all I was saying. Vegas Cup has always had weaker boys grouping at older ages because CA and AZ play high school in the winter. NV plays in the fall.
Players showcase is in March another good tournament socal can bash on because there are no DA teams playing.
Relax Chris Knight. I never said DA would approve Vegas Cup. What I did say is that there are teams that are non DA that could beat some DA teams. DA is so exclusive but not all teams are the best of the best and there are very good players outside the DA that play in other geographical areas. Vegas has many kids playing at many DA's on the west coast and others that have been offered DA spots but chose not to move.
There are teams from Vegas that can beat DA squads. 03 LVSA silver, maybe Heat 03, Heat 99s, Downtown 00s, there is a Players team 99 or 00s that has a good group. LVSA 02 maybe. Maybe Heat 04 would compete. they are not top DA teams but these teams do not finish in the bottom of the DA either. But then we will never know is all I was saying. Vegas Cup has always had weaker boys grouping at older ages because CA and AZ play high school in the winter. NV plays in the fall.
Players showcase is in March another good tournament socal can bash on because there are no DA teams playing.
Relax Chris Knight. I never said DA would approve Vegas Cup. What I did say is that there are teams that are non DA that could beat some DA teams. DA is so exclusive but not all teams are the best of the best and there are very good players outside the DA that play in other geographical areas. Vegas has many kids playing at many DA's on the west coast and others that have been offered DA spots but chose not to move.
There are teams from Vegas that can beat DA squads. 03 LVSA silver, maybe Heat 03, Heat 99s, Downtown 00s, there is a Players team 99 or 00s that has a good group. LVSA 02 maybe. Maybe Heat 04 would compete. they are not top DA teams but these teams do not finish in the bottom of the DA either. But then we will never know is all I was saying. Vegas Cup has always had weaker boys grouping at older ages because CA and AZ play high school in the winter. NV plays in the fall.
Players showcase is in March another good tournament socal can bash on because there are no DA teams playing.
My contention is that eventually (and sooner rather than later) we will know ... one way or another.