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Brackets are out

Girls 2012 - Super Cup
Bracket A
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Mulligan-Rennie Lime (CA)
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley (CA)
LAFC So Cal G2012 PRE ECNL (CA)
Liverpool FC IA SoCal Liverpool FC IA SoCal G12 Premier Curry (CA)
Bracket B
San Diego Surf Soccer Club SD Surf Academy Girls (Walker) 2012 (CA)
LA Surf Soccer Club G2012 LA Surf HW - SOCAL (CA)
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Leslie (CA)
California Football Academy CFA San Clemente G2012 White Kilpatrick (CA)
Bracket C
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley Elite (CA)
Pateadores Soccer Club G12 Pre-ECNL (CA)
Eagles SC Eagles G2012 (CA)
DMCV Sharks G2012 -Williams (CA)
Bracket D
Beach Futbol Club Beach FC SB G2012 Souza/Ayala (CA)
Slammers FC Slammers FC G2012 AW (CA)
Santa Barbara Soccer Club / Central Coast Academy Santa Barbara Soccer Club G2012 Elite (CA)
Legends FC (CA) Legends FC SGV G12 GOLD (CA)
Bracket E
Empire SC Empire SC G2012 (CA)
Southern California Blues Soccer Club So Cal Blues G12 Shelton (CA)
Beach Futbol Club Beach FC Long Beach G2012 A. Ayala (CA)
City SC City SC Carlsbad G12 Pre Academy - Hunt (CA)
Bracket F
Rebels Soccer Club Rebels Soccer Club - G2012 Elite (CA)
Legends FC (CA) Legends FC G12 Pre ECNL (CA)
Sporting Slammers FC Sporting Slammers FC G12 (CA)
California Football Academy CFA Riptide G2012 Spaccini (CA)

Initials thoughts..
Bracket D has two flight 2 teams
Brackets B, C, E & F have major questions about who will be the 2nd team to come out of the group
Surf struggled at Surf Cup in a group they should have won with ease but picked it up in the final...what team will show up?
Will Rebels Slammers or Beach take the leap as one of the Elite teams?
 
The format is different than last year's SoCal State Cup and more in line with the way that Cal South has done State Cup in the past. I'm assuming that 16 teams will make it out of the groups which means Top 2 teams in each group and 4 wild cards. I'm curious to see how SoCal is going to decide the wild cards. It's looking like there will be some competitive groups. Don't sleep on some of these teams, the majority are battle tested now and there are always going to be surprises at State Cup.
 
JabroniBeater805 said:
The format is different than last year's SoCal State Cup and more in line with the way that Cal South has done State Cup in the past. I'm assuming that 16 teams will make it out of the groups which means Top 2 teams in each group and 4 wild cards. I'm curious to see how SoCal is going to decide the wild cards. It's looking like there will be some competitive groups. Don't sleep on some of these teams, the majority are battle tested now and there are always going to be surprises at State Cup.
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my guess it will follow TBs in group

1. head to head
2 . GD
3. GF
4. GA
 
TheStr1kerz said:
Brackets are out

Girls 2012 - Super Cup
Bracket A
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Mulligan-Rennie Lime (CA)
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley (CA)
LAFC So Cal G2012 PRE ECNL (CA)
Liverpool FC IA SoCal Liverpool FC IA SoCal G12 Premier Curry (CA)
Bracket B
San Diego Surf Soccer Club SD Surf Academy Girls (Walker) 2012 (CA)
LA Surf Soccer Club G2012 LA Surf HW - SOCAL (CA)
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Leslie (CA)
California Football Academy CFA San Clemente G2012 White Kilpatrick (CA)
Bracket C
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley Elite (CA)
Pateadores Soccer Club G12 Pre-ECNL (CA)
Eagles SC Eagles G2012 (CA)
DMCV Sharks G2012 -Williams (CA)
Bracket D
Beach Futbol Club Beach FC SB G2012 Souza/Ayala (CA)
Slammers FC Slammers FC G2012 AW (CA)
Santa Barbara Soccer Club / Central Coast Academy Santa Barbara Soccer Club G2012 Elite (CA)
Legends FC (CA) Legends FC SGV G12 GOLD (CA)
Bracket E
Empire SC Empire SC G2012 (CA)
Southern California Blues Soccer Club So Cal Blues G12 Shelton (CA)
Beach Futbol Club Beach FC Long Beach G2012 A. Ayala (CA)
City SC City SC Carlsbad G12 Pre Academy - Hunt (CA)
Bracket F
Rebels Soccer Club Rebels Soccer Club - G2012 Elite (CA)
Legends FC (CA) Legends FC G12 Pre ECNL (CA)
Sporting Slammers FC Sporting Slammers FC G12 (CA)
California Football Academy CFA Riptide G2012 Spaccini (CA)

Did State Cup force these F2 teams to play in the Super Cup, or was it the club request ?

Im leaning towards club request , because there is one F2 here that didn’t win their league division ( and the division winner is playing in F2 )
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TheStr1kerz said:
Brackets are out

Girls 2012 - Super Cup
Bracket A
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Mulligan-Rennie Lime (CA)
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley (CA)
LAFC So Cal G2012 PRE ECNL (CA)
Liverpool FC IA SoCal Liverpool FC IA SoCal G12 Premier Curry (CA)
Bracket B
San Diego Surf Soccer Club SD Surf Academy Girls (Walker) 2012 (CA)
LA Surf Soccer Club G2012 LA Surf HW - SOCAL (CA)
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Leslie (CA)
California Football Academy CFA San Clemente G2012 White Kilpatrick (CA)
Bracket C
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley Elite (CA)
Pateadores Soccer Club G12 Pre-ECNL (CA)
Eagles SC Eagles G2012 (CA)
DMCV Sharks G2012 -Williams (CA)
Bracket D
Beach Futbol Club Beach FC SB G2012 Souza/Ayala (CA)
Slammers FC Slammers FC G2012 AW (CA)
Santa Barbara Soccer Club / Central Coast Academy Santa Barbara Soccer Club G2012 Elite (CA)
Legends FC (CA) Legends FC SGV G12 GOLD (CA)
Bracket E
Empire SC Empire SC G2012 (CA)
Southern California Blues Soccer Club So Cal Blues G12 Shelton (CA)
Beach Futbol Club Beach FC Long Beach G2012 A. Ayala (CA)
City SC City SC Carlsbad G12 Pre Academy - Hunt (CA)
Bracket F
Rebels Soccer Club Rebels Soccer Club - G2012 Elite (CA)
Legends FC (CA) Legends FC G12 Pre ECNL (CA)
Sporting Slammers FC Sporting Slammers FC G12 (CA)
California Football Academy CFA Riptide G2012 Spaccini (CA)

Initials thoughts..
Bracket D has two flight 2 teams
Brackets B, C, E & F have major questions about who will be the 2nd team to come out of the group
Surf struggled at Surf Cup in a group they should have won with ease but picked it up in the final...what team will show up?
Will Rebels Slammers or Beach take the leap as one of the Elite teams?
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Some of the bracketing changed. Bracket D moved Legends SGV who was one of the flight 2 teams to Bracket F. Good for SOCAL to show they're at least paying attention to bracketing.
 
Here is how YSR predictions as of 12/19 have things going:
Bracket A
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Mulligan-Rennie Lime300203179
2CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley2109726
3LAFC So Cal G2012 PRE ECNL120610-43
4Liverpool FC IA SoCal Liverpool FC IA SoCal G12 Premier Curry030318-150
Bracket B
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1San Diego Surf Soccer Club SD Surf Academy Girls (Walker) 2012300161159
2Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Leslie1114134
3LA Surf Soccer Club G2012 LA Surf HW - SOCAL11167-14
4California Football Academy CFA San Clemente G2012 White Kilpatrick030114-130
Bracket C
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley Elite30011389
2Pateadores Soccer Club G12 Pre-ECNL2105506
3DMCV Sharks G2012 -Williams12047-33
4Eagles SC Eagles G201203038-50
Bracket D
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1Beach Futbol Club Beach FC SB G2012 Souza/Ayala2019277
2Slammers FC Slammers FC G2012 AW2019367
3California Football Academy CFA Riptide G2012 Spaccini12046-23
4Santa Barbara Soccer Club / Central Coast Academy Santa Barbara Soccer Club G2012 Elite030213-110
Bracket E
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1Empire SC Empire SC G20123007259
2City SC City SC Carlsbad G12 Pre Academy - Hunt2105146
3Southern California Blues Soccer Club So Cal Blues G12 Shelton1205413
4Beach Futbol Club Beach FC Long Beach G2012 A. Ayala030212-100
Bracket F
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1Rebels Soccer Club Rebels Soccer Club - G2012 Elite30010379
2Legends FC (CA) Legends FC G12 Pre ECNL2107436
3Sporting Slammers FC Sporting Slammers FC G1212056-13
4Legends FC (CA) Legends FC SGV G12 GOLD030312-90
 
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Here is how the Wildcard would go based off YSR.
Top 4 teams will advance.
Tiebreaker order, based off of previous years, is: Points. Goal Differential. Goals Against. Goals For. Shut Outs.

Wildcard Standings
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1LA Surf Soccer Club G2012 LA Surf HW - SOCAL11167-14
2Southern California Blues Soccer Club So Cal Blues G12 Shelton1205413
3Sporting Slammers FC Sporting Slammers FC G1212056-13
4California Football Academy CFA Riptide G2012 Spaccini12046-23
5DMCV Sharks G2012 -Williams12047-33
6LAFC So Cal G2012 PRE ECNL120610-43
7Liverpool FC IA SoCal Liverpool FC IA SoCal G12 Premier Curry030318-150
8California Football Academy CFA San Clemente G2012 White Kilpatrick030114-130
9Eagles SC Eagles G201203038-50
10Santa Barbara Soccer Club / Central Coast Academy Santa Barbara Soccer Club G2012 Elite030213-110
11Beach Futbol Club Beach FC Long Beach G2012 A. Ayala030212-100
12Legends FC (CA) Legends FC SGV G12 GOLD030312-90
 
YSR Knockout round predictions as of 12.19 - if it came down to PKs, I went with the team YSR said had the higher % of winning.

Round of 16
Home TeamScoreAway TeamScore
Bracket E #1Bracket F #2
Empire SC Empire SC G20122Legends FC (CA) Legends FC G12 Pre ECNL1
Bracket D #1*Wildcard #1
Beach Futbol Club Beach FC SB G2012 Souza/Ayala2LA Surf Soccer Club G2012 LA Surf HW - SOCAL1
Bracket C #1*Wildcard #2
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley Elite3Southern California Blues Soccer Club So Cal Blues G12 Shelton1
Bracket A #1*Wildcard #4
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Mulligan-Rennie Lime7California Football Academy CFA Riptide G2012 Spaccini0
Bracket F #1Bracket E #2
Rebels Soccer Club Rebels Soccer Club - G2012 Elite2City SC City SC Carlsbad G12 Pre Academy - Hunt0
Bracket A #2Bracket D #2
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley2Slammers FC Slammers FC G2012 AW1
Bracket B #2Bracket C #2
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Leslie1Pateadores Soccer Club G12 Pre-ECNL2
Bracket B #1*Wildcard #3
San Diego Surf Soccer Club SD Surf Academy Girls (Walker) 20125Sporting Slammers FC Sporting Slammers FC G120
Quarter Final
Home TeamAway Team
Round of 16 B WinnerRound of 16 G Winner
San Diego Surf Soccer Club SD Surf Academy Girls (Walker) 20123CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley1
Round of 16 A WinnerRound of 16 H Winner
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Mulligan-Rennie Lime5Pateadores Soccer Club G12 Pre-ECNL1
Round of 16 C WinnerRound of 16 F Winner
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley Elite1
Win in PKs		Rebels Soccer Club Rebels Soccer Club - G2012 Elite1
Round of 16 D WinnerRound of 16 E Winner
Beach Futbol Club Beach FC SB G2012 Souza/Ayala1Empire SC Empire SC G20121
Win in PKs
Semi Final
Home TeamScoreAway TeamScore
Quarter-Finals A WinnerQuarter-Finals D Winner
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Mulligan-Rennie Lime5Empire SC Empire SC G20121
Quarter-Finals B WinnerQuarter-Finals C Winner
San Diego Surf Soccer Club SD Surf Academy Girls (Walker) 20122CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley Elite0
Final
Home TeamResultsAway TeamScore
Semi-Finals A WinnerSemi-Finals B Winner
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Mulligan-Rennie Lime2San Diego Surf Soccer Club SD Surf Academy Girls (Walker) 20120
 
TheStr1kerz said:
Brackets are out

Girls 2012 - Super Cup
Bracket A
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Mulligan-Rennie Lime (CA)
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley (CA)
LAFC So Cal G2012 PRE ECNL (CA)
Liverpool FC IA SoCal Liverpool FC IA SoCal G12 Premier Curry (CA)
Bracket B
San Diego Surf Soccer Club SD Surf Academy Girls (Walker) 2012 (CA)
LA Surf Soccer Club G2012 LA Surf HW - SOCAL (CA)
Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Leslie (CA)
California Football Academy CFA San Clemente G2012 White Kilpatrick (CA)
Bracket C
CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley Elite (CA)
Pateadores Soccer Club G12 Pre-ECNL (CA)
Eagles SC Eagles G2012 (CA)
DMCV Sharks G2012 -Williams (CA)
Bracket D
Beach Futbol Club Beach FC SB G2012 Souza/Ayala (CA)
Slammers FC Slammers FC G2012 AW (CA)
Santa Barbara Soccer Club / Central Coast Academy Santa Barbara Soccer Club G2012 Elite (CA)
Legends FC (CA) Legends FC SGV G12 GOLD (CA)
Bracket E
Empire SC Empire SC G2012 (CA)
Southern California Blues Soccer Club So Cal Blues G12 Shelton (CA)
Beach Futbol Club Beach FC Long Beach G2012 A. Ayala (CA)
City SC City SC Carlsbad G12 Pre Academy - Hunt (CA)
Bracket F
Rebels Soccer Club Rebels Soccer Club - G2012 Elite (CA)
Legends FC (CA) Legends FC G12 Pre ECNL (CA)
Sporting Slammers FC Sporting Slammers FC G12 (CA)
California Football Academy CFA Riptide G2012 Spaccini (CA)

Initials thoughts..
Bracket D has two flight 2 teams
Brackets B, C, E & F have major questions about who will be the 2nd team to come out of the group
Surf struggled at Surf Cup in a group they should have won with ease but picked it up in the final...what team will show up?
Will Rebels Slammers or Beach take the leap as one of the Elite teams?
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Mate I dont see Rangers listed
 
TheStr1kerz said:
Seriously bro???? You want to be a condescending prick because I named a team that you don't agree with in the up and coming teams, not even in the top 10...your feelings hurt because I didn't list your daughters team??
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Whoa, settle down My kids team is playing at State Cup but based off of how pissy you've got I think we all know what team yours won't be. I did not mean for a personal attack pal just relax.
 
JabroniBeater805 said:
Here is how YSR predictions as of 12/19 have things going:
Bracket A
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Mulligan-Rennie Lime300203179
2CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley2109726
3LAFC So Cal G2012 PRE ECNL120610-43
4Liverpool FC IA SoCal Liverpool FC IA SoCal G12 Premier Curry030318-150
Bracket B
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1San Diego Surf Soccer Club SD Surf Academy Girls (Walker) 2012300161159
2Southern California Blues Soccer Club SC Blues G12 Leslie1114134
3LA Surf Soccer Club G2012 LA Surf HW - SOCAL11167-14
4California Football Academy CFA San Clemente G2012 White Kilpatrick030114-130
Bracket C
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1CDA Slammers HB G12 Crowley Elite30011389
2Pateadores Soccer Club G12 Pre-ECNL2105506
3DMCV Sharks G2012 -Williams12047-33
4Eagles SC Eagles G201203038-50
Bracket D
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1Beach Futbol Club Beach FC SB G2012 Souza/Ayala2019277
2Slammers FC Slammers FC G2012 AW2019367
3California Football Academy CFA Riptide G2012 Spaccini12046-23
4Santa Barbara Soccer Club / Central Coast Academy Santa Barbara Soccer Club G2012 Elite030213-110
Bracket E
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1Empire SC Empire SC G20123007259
2City SC City SC Carlsbad G12 Pre Academy - Hunt2105146
3Southern California Blues Soccer Club So Cal Blues G12 Shelton1205413
4Beach Futbol Club Beach FC Long Beach G2012 A. Ayala030212-100
Bracket F
RankTeamWLDGFGAGDPTS
1Rebels Soccer Club Rebels Soccer Club - G2012 Elite30010379
2Legends FC (CA) Legends FC G12 Pre ECNL2107436
3Sporting Slammers FC Sporting Slammers FC G1212056-13
4Legends FC (CA) Legends FC SGV G12 GOLD030312-90
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It will be interesting to see how close the predictions are, even though a lot will change between now and State Cup with many teams. Please do a side by side of the actual results and these predictions once State Cup is over.
 
Code said:
It will be interesting to see how close the predictions are, even though a lot will change between now and State Cup with many teams. Please do a side by side of the actual results and these predictions once State Cup is over.
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That was always the intention. I'm a big fan of the YSR technology but I do question how accurate it is. I did a side by side for Surf College Cup a few weeks back. This is obviously with a smaller sample size (only 13 games). Will be interesting to see how accurate it will be with State Cup and the 36 games group stage.

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JabroniBeater805 said:
That was always the intention. I'm a big fan of the YSR technology but I do question how accurate it is. I did a side by side for Surf College Cup a few weeks back. This is obviously with a smaller sample size (only 13 games). Will be interesting to see how accurate it will be with State Cup and the 36 games group stage.

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Me and a couple other parents went to work in the G07 group in the YSR app. and made it as accurate as possible for the teams we know over the summer. We continued to clean it up and assign the correct data to the correct teams throughout the fall. It's predictions have been within 1 GD for that age group for almost every game prediction during the fall. I don't know how Surf Cup determined the G07 brackets last month, but it was a predictably unbalanced shit show. When the brackets came out, a few of us had some WTF discussions about how the Surf Cup brackets could be so far off, from the ranking app.. Then the game results confirmed the ignorance. There were 4-0, 5-0, and even 0-7 predictions in the top bracket that came into reality. It is clear, they don't use data to bracket teams, they stack the deck to make their teams look good. And put teams that threaten the status quo into low brackets. Our clubs top team pulled out because Surf Cup wanted to charge an additional fee to our club for them to be in one of the top brackets. They went to an ECNL Event elsewhere instead. Then our ECRL team got moved down in the brackets, below teams we've dominated in the fall. It made winning the bracket a hollow victory, wasn't even much of a celebration afterward. The whole event seemed staged. I don't know if it was, or if it just seemed that way because the predictions where accurate. Bracket seeding in tournaments should be transparent, or at least indicate how they were decided.
 
Code said:
Me and a couple other parents went to work in the G07 group in the YSR app. and made it as accurate as possible for the teams we know over the summer. We continued to clean it up and assign the correct data to the correct teams throughout the fall. It's predictions have been within 1 GD for that age group for almost every game prediction during the fall. I don't know how Surf Cup determined the G07 brackets last month, but it was a predictably unbalanced shit show. When the brackets came out, a few of us had some WTF discussions about how the Surf Cup brackets could be so far off, from the ranking app.. Then the game results confirmed the ignorance. There were 4-0, 5-0, and even 0-7 predictions in the top bracket that came into reality. It is clear, they don't use data to bracket teams, they stack the deck to make their teams look good. And put teams that threaten the status quo into low brackets. Our clubs top team pulled out because Surf Cup wanted to charge an additional fee to our club for them to be in one of the top brackets. They went to an ECNL Event elsewhere instead. Then our ECRL team got moved down in the brackets, below teams we've dominated in the fall. It made winning the bracket a hollow victory, wasn't even much of a celebration afterward. The whole event seemed staged. I don't know if it was, or if it just seemed that way because the predictions where accurate. Bracket seeding in tournaments should be transparent, or at least indicate how they were decided.
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I think it’s perfectly reasonable to expect that YSR is within 1 GD the majority of the time. This age group is at the age now where a lot of the teams are starting to see development and closing the gap talent wise. Should be interesting to see how the rankings change over time.

I only did a top bracket Surf predictor but I think I’m going to run a lil something for State Cup to see how accurate things are for 2nd flight and how their bracketing process is done also.

Also did B09 for top flight for State Cup. They definitely don’t use the rankings for even bracketing purposes. There are teams that are projected to finish 4th in their bracket that would win be projected to win several other brackets. They really should be using the technology to try to make the most even bracketing possible.
 
Code said:
Me and a couple other parents went to work in the G07 group in the YSR app. and made it as accurate as possible for the teams we know over the summer. We continued to clean it up and assign the correct data to the correct teams throughout the fall. It's predictions have been within 1 GD for that age group for almost every game prediction during the fall. I don't know how Surf Cup determined the G07 brackets last month, but it was a predictably unbalanced shit show. When the brackets came out, a few of us had some WTF discussions about how the Surf Cup brackets could be so far off, from the ranking app.. Then the game results confirmed the ignorance. There were 4-0, 5-0, and even 0-7 predictions in the top bracket that came into reality. It is clear, they don't use data to bracket teams, they stack the deck to make their teams look good. And put teams that threaten the status quo into low brackets. Our clubs top team pulled out because Surf Cup wanted to charge an additional fee to our club for them to be in one of the top brackets. They went to an ECNL Event elsewhere instead. Then our ECRL team got moved down in the brackets, below teams we've dominated in the fall. It made winning the bracket a hollow victory, wasn't even much of a celebration afterward. The whole event seemed staged. I don't know if it was, or if it just seemed that way because the predictions where accurate. Bracket seeding in tournaments should be transparent, or at least indicate how they were decided.
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You're just noticing this now? Surf Cup events generally advantage their teams in the brackets. It's always been this way.

Paying extra to play in a higher level is something I haven't heard of before.

Since we're talking about bending the rules I've seen futsal leagues that literally gave certain teams (that were/are Surf related) extra games just so they would win the league on points.

I find it interesting that Surf + Surf related entities do this. Their players, tactics, and coaches are all very good. Going out of your way to bend the rules in every way possible when you dont need to is odd.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
You're just noticing this now? Surf Cup events generally advantage their teams in the brackets. It's always been this way.

Paying extra to play in a higher level is something I haven't heard of before.

Since we're talking about bending the rules I've seen futsal leagues that literally gave certain teams (that were/are Surf related) extra games just so they would win the league on points.

I find it interesting that Surf + Surf related entities do this. Their players, tactics, and coaches are all very good. Going out of your way to bend the rules in every way possible when you dont need to is odd.
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It's always been suspected. This year was just blatant and over the top.
 
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