CIF has problems. Pay the refs more with more training on safety first and then how and when to pull the cards to set the tone. If you allow Soccer Rugby (lacerations, broken bones and the like) early in the game, then you got problems. I say each school take up a special collection offering pass the plate around in the stands or a "tip" for a job well done after each game. Base pay and then collection bonus from parents. This is stupid and another dumb thing soccer does to the girls. They just want to play and have fun with their schoolmates. The girls break their bones while the refs make money. What do the girls get for all their hard work this pre-season? No refs.... Good job everyone. Use the girls again to make money. Sad!!!
For the refs out there...are these numbers correct? So for a 3-man crew the total would be $275 per game? ECNL/RL currently pays $180. And for the record, I have no issue with leagues paying refs more.
I don't know, but every high school game I've seen is only 2 refs, so it's something like $190 per game
In OC, which is not Striking, varsity Center gets $80 and ARs both get $75. In a two man system both get $75.
Keep telling yourself all the stories you need to justify your behavior. With your kind of experience and knowledge you should be out there making the game safer by being a ref. More refs are needed than whiners.
The dirty push from behind allows me to justify my rebuke of the dumb refs. Are you that Ref? The dude called a ful only. There is video proof of dirty push from behind, which caused my dd to break her foot during a very important time in her recruiting to Big U. I have every right to yell at the ref who only called a foul. That dirty player should have been given a Red and told to go play Rugby. Lastly, I would never ref soccer. I did ref basketball, and I took my share of yells from parents. I missed a few calls and made some wrong calls, I'm only human. Why are soccer refs so sensitive? Toughen up Toch and learn to pull the cards out early to stop dirty players from cheating.
Everyone is screaming for refs to hand out yellows and reds to keep games under control + stop teams that rely on being physical over skills for wins.
So you want VAR for youth soccer? Of course professional games are ref'd differently than youth.
I want calls to be the same for all age groups regardless of VAR or not having VAR.
Games are absolutely going to be called differently between youth and pro. There's a reason why yellow and red cards are rare for U-littles...they do not have the same intent or body control as olders or pros. I would echo Toch's sentiment above that you should try being a ref...it's a lot harder than it looks. I think ALL youth soccer parents should be required to 1.) ref games and 2.) play soccer so that they know how hard it is to do both. A tell-tale sign that a parent has never played soccer is when they are screaming at kids to run in 95 degree heat deep into the second half.
So because a child has less control over their body it's ok to allow aggressive play to the point where skill isn't required to win? That doesn't make sense.
Kids have the same intent as adults when they try to trip, grab jerseys, throw their bodies into other players. I can understand if a ref thinks someone accidentally fell because it was slippery due to rain....but I've seen concussions happen because kids intended to throw themselves recklessly against other players due to frustration and no call by refs. Maybe U10 and below, there's leniency but call it at u11 and above.
Glad to hear this.... one of my kids varsity game (scrimmage) had two "volunteers" as AR's and it went as well as you can imagine. Although to be fair sometimes the refs at high levels aren't that impressive either.
A foul is a foul...that remains constant. But intent is taken into account when dishing out cards. If a 9 year old just makes a bumbling tackle then a talking-to will probably be more effective than a card.
Please do tell.
That is BS pay for the two-man system. I run very close to the same distance in a dual-system as I do during running a center. Dual should be the same pay as a center.
