Eric Wynalda comments on US Soccer

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  1. Simisoccerfan

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    Better but still flawed. It pulls the league games for ECNL but not for DA at this point. Also there are teams in the rankings that no longer exist.
     
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    I agree that it isn't perfect, but it is way better than GotSoccer. Rankings are necessary for seeding tournaments, or otherwise, you will have some very lopsided scores that aren't helping either side develop.

    Maybe the solution isn't a true numeric rankings table, but more of tiered categorization of teams that would assist in the seeding of tournaments. 8-10 Tiers that do not need to be called Elite or Advanced but could have innocuous names that correlate to a high/low ranking:

    Yellow=Top Tier
    Gray=Elite
    Red=Advanced Plus
    Blue=Advanced
    Green=Club
    Black=Signature
    Purple=Advanced Rec
    White=Rec

    It would eliminate teams worrying about moving up positions in the numeric rankings and reduce it to just a few levels. But this would require all gaming circuits to work together to develop criteria for each level and most coaches believe that their teams are at least one level higher than what they truly are. Never going to happen.
     
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    I didn't see anybody I know there, but I had hopes.
     
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    I wouldn't call them a nuisance at all. For kids looking to get in front of college coaches it's a great thing. Now, picking the right Showcase is a thread of its own.
     
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    Good point. I wonder why the article didn't go through them as well. I only brought up GS because the article singled them out, but yea, it might be better.

    Regardless, some type of ranking should be used for the top tier tournaments. But what makes a tournament top tier? A bunch of out of State teams? The location? Who puts it on? Or the teams that participate in it?
     
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    Changing the name of tier doesn't change anything. Kinda like clubs calling their top teams Academy when the previous year they were called Black, Blue or whatever colors their club had.
     
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    me either.

    That Pro Council voting breakdown is MLS and everyone else gets scraps. Im sure all the leagues were okay with that.
     
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    I don't understand how anyone thinks a good soccer player makes a good coach or a good business man?
    And ya its a "parent problem" come on man get real it is a lack of training and a lack of ability on the coaches part to deal with the parents! I agree a huge number of parents are crazy as hell, but that is part of the job title, being a good coach is being able and willing to deal with the "crazy parent issue" part of the job! The issue is you mix half ass, uneducated, two bit scammer coaches with crazy parents and you end up with major issues. Then you have coaches that genuinely don't care about anything other then making money.
    The job of being a soccer coach is pretty easy to understand by now, if you are making the decision to become a club soccer coach then take in account the variety of parents and children you will be dealing with, IF YOU CAN'T handle the guaranteed issues that come with your chosen job then move on and find a job your capable of handling. There are no excuses for shitty coaches, there are no surprises on dealing with children and parents BEWARE they are all going to challenge you in some way or another and if you do not have the mind set or tools to handle these challenges then do not become a coach.
     
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    I must of missed that. Who posted that?
     
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    Have ever been a coach? Your comments are very simplistic but are unrealistic. The same can be said of any profession and even of parenthood. People learn on the job and become better and besides, your way would leave us with only a handful of coaches.
     
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    The more you speak the more it sounds like you are off your meds - and give credence to what Wynalda is saying. Oh, and the guy has 7 kids and is pretty hands-off with them when it comes to sports.

    So by your logic former basketball players, baseball players, track athletes make bad coaches? We wouldnt have sports of former players didnt become coaches. Also, uneducated? Need a degree to coach soccer? Dont need a degree to be a machinist or a programmer. Just have to have knowledge (hopefully via experience, training /licensing) and ability. Sometimes people want coaches to be psychologists - sometimes they have to be dealing with parents like you. well assuming you are a parent and almost think you arent.

    Thinking we are being modern Rick-Rolled
     
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    I never said former athletes make bad coaches, I simply said just because someone is a former athlete doesn't mean they know how to teach, coach or handle the business end of things. I was referring to education in training children, coaching and dealing with the adults in a respectful business realtionship. Yes I try and be as simple and direct as possible so people like you don't twist my words. But you have proven you are one of the "crazy head in the sand parents" by trying to detract from what I wrote, I posted this in very simple easy to understand words in the most basic form.
    Apparently you were confused or maybe you are a person trying to understand how people that don't have your exact perspective on youth soccer can possibly be straight in the head? You actually are the one who sounds as if "meds" are a huge part of your life. Read what I wrote with a clear and open mind, pull your head out and just simply take it for exactly what was written.

    And by the way who uses words like "Rick Rolled" honestly who says that? Ya we are all being "RICK ROLLED" by a huge majority of coaches!
     
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    I see a great message coming out of your post.

    As you said.. "besides, your way would leave us with only a handful of coaches"

    I agree in today's club soccer we have to many clubs, to many leagues and because of that we have a huge % of to many low level, un professional coaches.
     
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    If youth coaches get you so upset you are on a website ranting on multiple posts...then probably not too emotionally stable. Can start self-medicating Jan 1st
     
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    I'm simply talking and engaging in conversation on a talk forum about youth soccer. I am just sharing my experiences and concerns about the the coaches and clubs i have seen first hand, I do not want little kids and their families to fall into some of the misfortune's we have or have witnessed. That is all, I don't need to get into a name calling contest with you, I don't know anything about your "Med's" and i don't care if you obviously have that need in your life? Why would you make suggestions about people needing Med's if you have not had them in your life? Again your good, we have different views and that is what is so great about social media (if used properly) is to engage in conversation, learn, listen and ad your 2-cents.
    Have a wonderful day and enjoy your children.
     
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    What happens on Jan 1?
     
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    I think that is :eek:crazy code/talk for people on meds? :confused:
     
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    There's no point in pulling DA games as they only play each other. An RPI-type algorithm, as is used by YSR, would produce no clearer ranking for a closed league then that league's actual standings. In fact, without games against weaker opponents (and without any way to link to other teams throughout the county) the rankings would probably be artificially low. So I doubt DA will ever be added. Many ECNL teams play in non-ECNL tournaments so there is some basis for comparison there.
     
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    Mr. Shark can buy cannabis without an RX
     

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