Eric Wynalda comments on US Soccer

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  1. Multi Sport

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    He was likely thinking of some of the trolls that post on this site. ;)
     
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    Can google old podcasts with him. Guy is sharp even growing up with dyslexia and adhd. Has tried to help for awhile but US Soccer doesnt want to fix soccer, more worried about profit margins
     
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    I think Eric running for President of US Soccer is a good thing and I hope he wins. Things need to change and I think he is a smart guy who would enlist the help of some of his peers to help him out.

    I never thought that a promotion/relegation system would ever work but Eric thinks that it could. I hope he gets the chance to right the ship.
     
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    Yeah but if you visit reddit ppl act like you need a phd & be from wall street to run US Soccer. We dont have a $ issue. Also looks like kyle martino is in to split votes - given he said candidates NEED to work with Gulati to help soccer. Im sure money and/or promise of jobs are being floated around.
     
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    Gulati NEEDS to go. He’s gotten us to this plateau, new vision is needed to get US Soccer to the next level. Not sure that Wynalda is the answer, but the game in the US would be well served having him involved at some level.
     
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    Had a conversation last night with a friend of mine. He was one of the former owners of the LA Heat and has some strong opinions about Gulati and agrees that US Soccer needs a new person to lead them.
     
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    If you have read any of his comments before you know he is referring to the win, win, win, attitude over development. Unfortunately, parents, many coaches and clubs want the wins and don't put long term development first. The survival of clubs depends on wins to draw their clients in. Parents want the trophies and coaches want the recognition.
     
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    Talk to just about anyone and Gulati has to go. Coaches getting killed with the license fees because of this guy. Current players on the USMNT & USWNT hate the guy. Wynalda mentions they basically threaten to not call you up if you dont sign a sweetheart contract - which seems to also cause tension amongst players. Only people saying Gulati doesnt have to go are shills being paid by the current machine. Look at Lalas' twitter, just stirring up stuff and never adds Gulati to the questions. People with MLS ties, SUM ties or been paid through those contracts are throwing shade. Sad, but Gualti will probably win the election. Would pretty much need dirt on the guy to get him out.
     
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    need to cut out the infection = Gulati & all other aspects/associates/buddies that are infected too.

    Wynalda could be good, however I dont know why Donavan doesnt get as much traction as I think he deserves.
     
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    Donovan hasnt said he is running. Also, Donovan has ties to MLS with what is going down in SD. Maybe he doesnt want to rock the boat with that unless its about splitting votes. To be fair im sure Wynalda has big money behind him. someone with UEFA ties helped him with the business plan they are pitching
     
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    Who votes in this election? I know it's not me, and not likely anyone I know personally.
     
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    Thats the big issue, always seemed to be some big secret. Wynalda said needs to be more transparent. A few podcasts have broken it down. Its MLS, soccer associations and other. Some individual votes count more in places where less people make up these associations. Oh and TWO fans. Who are these fans and howd they get a vote? no one seems to know.

    Finally someone put something up on it a few days ago:
    https://medium.com/@adicicco/who-the-hell-votes-in-the-us-soccer-presidential-election-58e2c198c389

    Not complicated or anything
     
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    I'm not GotSoccer enthusiast but the writer points out a few things that I take issue with.

    To say that it is a flaw to award more points to a team that plays in a tournament with a "Championship " then a tournament that is a "Showcase" is flawed. By definition, a Showcase is just that, a Showcase of players. A team does not win a Showcase but participates in one in order to hopefully give all their players an opportunity to play in front of college coaches. If a college coach shows up to watch a player at a Showcase the club coach should be sure that the player is in the game or insert the player. So with this format in mind, how can award ANY points at a Showcase.

    The writer contradicts himself when he points out that GotSoccer values tournament play over league play. His argument is that more games are played in league. But then he says that GS values quantity over quality.

    GotSoccer is anything but perfect but until someone can come up with a better, much better, system then it will be the default system used to rank teams.
     
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    Wow. That's a lot of info. If you look at the amount of people in each group who can vote it looks like the Youth group would be the strongest but one you looknat the Multipliers and the adjusted voting strength you quickly see that it's the Athletes group who yield the most power. But is that good? They only have 14 voters, so you only need to payoff...err, convince a few of them to vote your way to really affect any voting results.
     
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    Wynalda is certainly right on about stifling players to play a specific way.
     
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    yep. athlete group biggest swingers
     
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    Showcases are more of a nuisance than a method of improving play
     
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    Isn't Youth Soccer Rankings (https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/National/All/Both/) a better alternative?
     
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