DA and ECNL

Discussion in 'ECNL' started by Desert Hound, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. Fact

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    I guess MakeALoser is just going to have to find someone else to harass.

    Good luck. I guess I will have another conference to follow.
     
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    Pot meet kettle...
     
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    Something about three "options" to stay in ECNL?

    1. "buy a professional team and change our ECNL name to that" (Sky Blue FC ECNL based on partnership with Surf New York?)
    2. "..merge with a non-ECNL club" (Force of San Diego?)
    3. "change name all together"

    1 and 2 said to be completed by Surf. Then Slammers went all in at an ECNL meeting last month in Seattle. Surf says that they "think, don't know" that the Slammers decision nullified their compliance with two of the ECNL's caveats for remaining in ECNL. Interesting that ECNL allowed the OC Surf boys to remain per the ECNL MAP previously posted.
     
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    Did they say this at the meeting? I had previously heard that ECNL told them that if they had a good showing in the playoffs that they would let them keep ECNL. Seems like a big gamble to me. The problem I have is that they announced that they were in DPL and the DPL Pilot long before a decision was made by ECNL. Blues did not go through with DPL. It is never a good idea to make a big announcement about a deal that is contrary to a deal you are still negotiating. Surf was trying to have it both ways.
     
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    Are you sure about the time line for the DPL and Pilot announcement?
     
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    No you twisted it. They are firm on their competitive standards to REMAIN in the league. Most new clubs will have work to do. But being an ECNL club will help these new clubs attract better players than they have previously.
     
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    Yes. Sorry to be brief but if you search her on the Forum you will find a section on Surf and Blues being in DPL. I believe their logos were on the DPL site. Then Blues logos was gone and the rumors started to fly that they were kicked out. This was a couple weeks before ECNLs announcement a week or 2’ago.
     
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    Maybe I was not clear. Before GDA, there were non-ECNL clubs in SoCal (Beach, Legends, Carlsbad United/LAGSD) that were more competitive than many of the ECNL Southwest conference clubs and should have been added to ECNL but were not. This was due to either stupidity or collusion with the existing SoCal ECNL clubs and I don't think the leaders of ECNL are THAT stupid. Once GDA happened and ECNL was faced with losing $, ECNL loosened their requirements and added clubs that were less competitive than Beach, Legends or LAGSD like Del Mar Sharks (not that Sharks is a bad club, but at the time their girls teams were not as competitive as those three clubs).

    As I have said before, GDA has its own problems and poor decisions. My core issue is that I believe it is stupid for any SoCal team to play league games outside of SoCal (special thanks to GDA for that Sunday evening game in Phoenix in March with school on Monday morning!). Let the best of SoCal go to some sort of summer championship, but none of them should need to travel out of state during the school year. We have enough competition right here in SoCal and the fight over $ between ECNL and GDA is being paid for by parents and players. The adults need to get their shit together and let nearby clubs play against each other. Don't drink the kool-aid, our kids are getting screwed because the powers that be are fighting over money and power and do not give a crap about our kids other than the dollar signs the see when they sign up.
     
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    Dude you have no clue but I understand as most here don't. I can tell all kinds of stories but I don't want to deal with the fallout.
     
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    Amen. I can't like this comment enough.
     
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    I agree. But it’s not about the competition. It’s about being seen by the right college scouts.
    ECNL, DA, DPL, Pilot- they are really all designed to make life easier for college scouts to see your kid play.
     
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    College scouts will not likely be at anything DPL, PILOT...why would they? They are already dividing Ecnl and DA with the same budget. Now USYS has jumped in the money grab with the their be league.
     
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    Not even D2 or D3 schools?
     
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    I thought DPL games / showcases are supposed to be played at the same time as DA games.
     
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    @timbuck,

    I agree wholeheartedly agree with this:
    Moreover, I think girls that play in the DPL may actually have an additional disadvantage than those that play Flight 1 Champions, National League (CRL), or other leagues for clubs not in the DA or with ECNL in that college scouts would be wondering in the back of their mind "Why isn't she good enough to play on the club's DA team?"

    When my daughter was applying for college this last year with something like 5 AP courses under her belt, she was told that because her school also offered an IB (International Baccalaureate) program, the AP courses carried less weight than if she was at a HS that only offered AP.

    If I was a college coach (which I'm not), I know I would look at any DPL (or EGSL ... ECNL's version of DPL) player and ask myself, what is wrong with her that she could not make the top level team? Now, if a club didn't offer ECNL or DA, then I can appreciate that she is playing at the top level her club offers, I'm I'm less concerned.

    I think 1 solution for those not wanting to play DA due to the outside play restrictions is to play up a year or two at a high level. In my son's case, he is an 03 GK that plays up on a Flight 1 2001 team (2 years up). He is starting to get looks and interest by colleges just because he 14/15 is playing up with 17 year olds ... it probably also helps that he is 6'2".

    Because the DPL is not part of the DA, they do not play at the same time as DA showcases. However, this year as part of a pilot, the 2003 DPL will play against the Frontier Div. 2003 Pilot program at (I think 2 showcases). But, if my comment above is accurate, why would a coach watch DPL games when there are much better uncommitted DA players at the 03/02 Composite age on the other fields? Heck, even the bench players should be better than the DPL/Pilot 03s.
     
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    Just like last year LOL
     
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    Well, they aren't separate things. The coaches attend because of the level of competition. You think if the top clubs in SoCal all put their top teams in a SoCal only league like CSL Premier or SCDSL (or created a new one) that college coaches wouldn't come to see them? I've heard stories about what CSL Premier was like back in the days before the dilution of leagues and I understand that it was the best league in the country. The national stuff (for league season play) is ridiculous and not needed for SoCal. I get it if you live in the Pac Northwest, Rocky Mountain region or the plains states. Those kids need to travel to find competition good enough for the coaches to come watch.
     
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    BLUES:
    Pilot = NO
    ECNL= YES
    DA= ?
     
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    I’m sorry but this is not accurate.
     
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    I am referring to the last couple of years, not the ancient history of when ECNL was founded. Based on that, what was inaccurate?
     

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