Coach background checks

Nagini

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I am new here and read some post but joined just to ask about coach vackgbackg checks. I saw the question in a San Diego soccer group I am in but none of the answers agree.

The question(s) is

"Are all coaches background checked or just those who coach Presidio? Coaches at camps? Are people allowed to coach if they have things on record related to donestic violence or fights? Or are teams only concerned with kid stuff?" (I assume this means pedophile related)

I condensed and paraphrased a llittl. Does any one know exactly which coaches get background checks and what the background check is looking for? What will prevent someone from passing?
 
cqnt get a cal south card as an adult without going through DOJ. Coaches,managers,admins,refs all same process. Doesn’t mean a club won’t have people working camps without a card. Also doesn’t mean a person can not be indicated in a criminal act after getting a bg check done.
 
Thank you. That was helpful and quite informative.

Is there an explanation somewhere of what items found in a livescan would prohibit a person from being approved for a Calsouth ID? Are Coaches required to resubmit to the livescan every few years, or is this a one time requirement?

Looks like "detrimental to the welfare of youth players" is the criterion. A background check looks for past items, and then it is triggered by "becomes involved".

3.4.3.1. Suspension Because of Litigation
Any person participating in any sanctioned or sponsored program of Cal South who becomes involved as a defendant in litigation detrimental to the welfare of youth players or litigation based on activities detrimental to the welfare of youth players, shall be suspended by Cal South from all soccer-related activities until the completion of the litigation. The status of the person shall be reviewed by Cal South at the completion of the litigation. Matters detrimental to the welfare of youth players shall include crimes of moral turpitude and felonies. The person has the right to appeal whether the matter which is the substance of the accusation, if true, is detrimental to the welfare of youth players.

https://media.calsouth.com/data/Downloads/About_Us/08.2013CalSouthRulesandRegulations.pdf?rev=CA0E

See also Section 6 Risk Management, which goes on for several pages and includes this --

6.3.5.3. The following grounds may result in exclusion from serving as a Program Administrator:
6.3.5.3.1. Any arrest or conviction for a crime of violence, a crime against a person, a crime against property, or a felony. (Effective March 7, 1999) (Revised February 5, 2005)
6.3.5.3.2. Any report of child abuse appearing on the Child Abuse Index.
6.3.5.3.3. Any record of sexual offense and/or sexual misconduct.
6.3.5.3.4. Use of/or conviction for use of illegal drugs.
6.3.5.3.5. Becoming the subject of a Domestic Violence Protection Act Order.
6.3.5.3.6. Documented history of alcohol abuse (DUI'S etc.)
6.3.5.3.7. Intentionally falsifying of information (Cal South Rule 2.3.7) (Revised February 5, 2005)
6.3.5.3.8. Refusal to fully complete the Administrator Disclosure Form. (Revised February 5, 2005)
6.3.5.3.9. Refusal to submit fingerprints when required to under this document.
 
Now that marijuana is legal in CA (but not federally) where does that land with regard to “illegal drugs”?
 
Looks like "detrimental to the welfare of youth players" is the criterion. A background check looks for past items, and then it is triggered by "becomes involved".

3.4.3.1. Suspension Because of Litigation
Any person participating in any sanctioned or sponsored program of Cal South who becomes involved as a defendant in litigation detrimental to the welfare of youth players or litigation based on activities detrimental to the welfare of youth players, shall be suspended by Cal South from all soccer-related activities until the completion of the litigation. The status of the person shall be reviewed by Cal South at the completion of the litigation. Matters detrimental to the welfare of youth players shall include crimes of moral turpitude and felonies. The person has the right to appeal whether the matter which is the substance of the accusation, if true, is detrimental to the welfare of youth players.

https://media.calsouth.com/data/Downloads/About_Us/08.2013CalSouthRulesandRegulations.pdf?rev=CA0E

See also Section 6 Risk Management, which goes on for several pages and includes this --

6.3.5.3. The following grounds may result in exclusion from serving as a Program Administrator:
6.3.5.3.1. Any arrest or conviction for a crime of violence, a crime against a person, a crime against property, or a felony. (Effective March 7, 1999) (Revised February 5, 2005)
6.3.5.3.2. Any report of child abuse appearing on the Child Abuse Index.
6.3.5.3.3. Any record of sexual offense and/or sexual misconduct.
6.3.5.3.4. Use of/or conviction for use of illegal drugs.
6.3.5.3.5. Becoming the subject of a Domestic Violence Protection Act Order.
6.3.5.3.6. Documented history of alcohol abuse (DUI'S etc.)
6.3.5.3.7. Intentionally falsifying of information (Cal South Rule 2.3.7) (Revised February 5, 2005)
6.3.5.3.8. Refusal to fully complete the Administrator Disclosure Form. (Revised February 5, 2005)
6.3.5.3.9. Refusal to submit fingerprints when required to under this document.

Thank you Espola. I'll read the libks and hope it is clear. The answers on the original thread seemed very vague and even contradicting. I watched hoping one of the many coaches or club presidents would post an answer with links, but a week passed with nothing. Glad to see this forum is more informative.
 
Now that marijuana is legal in CA (but not federally) where does that land with regard to “illegal drugs”?

It would be interesting to see that point pressed. If busted for personal possession 10 years ago that would be legal now, does that still count to Cal South and any club where he wants to work?
 
What’s the link/website for the San Diego soccer group you’re in? I didn’t realize there’s one specific to San Diego....

It is a Facebook group and I don't know how to get the group link from the app. Here is the link to the post.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/SDSOCCERPLAYERS/permalink/2013512082076117/

It should take you to the group, San Diego Soccer Players. I have seen parents in there. The most active members are club presidents and coaches.
 
Thank you. That was helpful and quite informative.

Is there an explanation somewhere of what items found in a livescan would prohibit a person from being approved for a Calsouth ID? Are Coaches required to resubmit to the livescan every few years, or is this a one time requirement?
If you have anything on your record which you were accused of putting any kid in danger or you did any kind of harm to a minor. Anyone who has molested a child should just shoot themselves anyway.
 
Now that marijuana is legal in CA (but not federally) where does that land with regard to “illegal drugs”?

It would be interesting to see that point pressed. If busted for personal possession 10 years ago that would be legal now, does that still count to Cal South and any club where he wants to work?

And now that it is legal - How would you feel about your coach if they were frequent users? What if they smelled like it during practice or games? What if you saw them outside of practice and they smelled like it or looked like they had recently smoked/vaped/eaten/etc?

I am a bit torn on how I'd feel about this. If I equate it to drinking, then I'm fine if you drink alcohol. - Just don't show up drunk or smelling like booze during practice and games. If I see you at a Galaxy game and you have had too much to drink - I'd be ok with it.

I'm still baffled that weed is legal.
 
Now that marijuana is legal in CA (but not federally) where does that land with regard to “illegal drugs”?

And now that it is legal - How would you feel about your coach if they were frequent users? What if they smelled like it during practice or games? What if you saw them outside of practice and they smelled like it or looked like they had recently smoked/vaped/eaten/etc?

I am a bit torn on how I'd feel about this. If I equate it to drinking, then I'm fine if you drink alcohol. - Just don't show up drunk or smelling like booze during practice and games. If I see you at a Galaxy game and you have had too much to drink - I'd be ok with it.

I'm still baffled that weed is legal.
Put it this way, I'd much rather my kid's coach be a frequent user of weed than alcohol.
 
Now that marijuana is legal in CA (but not federally) where does that land with regard to “illegal drugs”?



And now that it is legal - How would you feel about your coach if they were frequent users? What if they smelled like it during practice or games? What if you saw them outside of practice and they smelled like it or looked like they had recently smoked/vaped/eaten/etc?

I am a bit torn on how I'd feel about this. If I equate it to drinking, then I'm fine if you drink alcohol. - Just don't show up drunk or smelling like booze during practice and games. If I see you at a Galaxy game and you have had too much to drink - I'd be ok with it.

I'm still baffled that weed is legal.

Back in the good old days I would sometimes go out for drinks with the kid's coach when we were staying out of town for a tournament.

The well-regulated weed we have now is less harmful to the body than anything with alcohol in it. If you avoid smoking it, and instead eat brownies or chocolate bars, you can also avoid the implications of smoke in the lungs.
 
just curious if any of you have looked at the latest scientific research on marijuana and effects on teenage brain development. Your attitudes would change....
 
just curious if any of you have looked at the latest scientific research on marijuana and effects on teenage brain development. Your attitudes would change....
We're not talking about teenagers here. We're talking about adults. Both alcohol and marijuana are bad for developing brains, but no one's advocating that kids use it. The issue on this forum is whether we as parents should be concerned about a youth soccer coach who uses marijuana - not a profession that requires a particularly sharp memory or high IQ (no offense). We've had coaches which alcohol issues that affect their ability to show up and their mood when they do. Again, I'd much rather my kid play for someone who uses marijuana than alcohol.
 
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