Myleftfoot
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there's a social media video going around with the Galaxy U15's screaming "campeones, campeones". I don't see anything from US Soccer Academy that gives them a recognition about wining a championship.
What are u talking about? There’s one set of posts saying there’s no official championship and another set of posts saying they won the SW division so they’re at least champs of SW.Is all the hatred towards the 15 year old kids that probably hear it from the sidelines for playing for Galaxy or is it directed towards Galaxy?
Southwest Division like most in DA has some competition near the top of the division but then it seems to fall off after which is unfortunate. I really think a pro/rel system would help in that regard starring at this age group or something but it seems like it will never happen, establishment keep there teams year after year even when there less than <1 point per game played. (bottom 4 for example). Same teams year after year so things seem stale, bringing in new teams would make things more exciting for everybody IMO.
Relegation ain’t gonna work because there’s 2 classes of teams, the pro teams LAG and LAFC, and the club teams. The pro teams are always going to be able to pick off either 1) best players or 2) kids who are good and will work the hardest because they have dreams of going pro. The club teams can and do lose top players they have trained and developed to LAG (and I’m sure LAFC will pick off talented players starting next year).
Relegation should be punishment for teams that fail to develop players, and promotion should reward teams that have successfully developed talent. But it’s possible for club teams in SW Academy division to develop top players, lose them to LAG or LAFC, and then be relegated.
The accumulation and monopolization of talent is the reason why LAG has been on top of the SW division for so long, and promotion/relegation system will have no impact on the ability of pro teams to suck up the best players.
The lack of consist competition in DA at the top end in really shows when teams play in tournament with international, MX, or open comp. Man City cup is a perfect example, besides a single team lafc & galaxy ussda didn't fair well at all vs the other sides from anywhere else and it wasn't even close most of the time.
Why not let some teams from other leagues say the top 4 from national cup, CRL, or whatever apply so the competition get better for league? The 3-4 teams that didn't performance good enough can go back to the club circuits and try again next year if they do well there.
The lack of consist competition in DA at the top end in really shows when teams play in tournament with international, MX, or open comp. Man City cup is a perfect example, besides a single team lafc & galaxy ussda didn't fair well at all vs the other sides from anywhere else and it wasn't even close most of the time.
I'm confused, didn't two of your 3 teams make finals and the 05s won?
A microcosm of the pro/rel challenges at the pro level. How do you convince owners of MLS franchises, that invested millions to "buy-in" to the league, to open the ecosystem allowing lower-division teams to promote up and potentially bump their organization down to a lower league without the same inflow of money for TV rights, marketability, and such?Either u or someone else who knows more about DA was saying teams have to meet a bunch of requirements to qualify for DA (coaching licenses, minimum field requirements, coaching education etc.). Teams investing money to qualify for DA r not gonna be happy to get bounced out, especially if the players they developed got picked off.
The teams that you identified that won CRL or National Cup may not qualify for DA, but now they are gonna get promoted in? I’m pretty sure the teams that spent time and money qualifying for DA will be upset if some club gets in via promotion and doesn’t have to jump through all the DA hoops. And if you require the promoted teams to meet DA qualifications, are they gonna do it? There are teams that have chosen not to go the DA route because it doesn’t work for them.
And what’s the point of churning the bottom of the DA pool? Because that’s what’s gonna happen, you’re going to switch out one set of bottom tier teams for another.
The issue is the DA teams and non-DA teams are in different ecosystems, and promoting/relegating teams from the DA universe to the non-DA universe requires them to switch ecosystems, and that switch brings its own set of complicated issues and problems.
You call it picking off. I call it promoting the better players and bringing them into a pro environment. What's wrong with that? Isn't that the way it should happen? Do high-quality, local academies in Madrid bitch and complain about their players being poached when they get pulled into Real Madrid or Athletico academies? Doubt it.You’re complaining about the lack of competition in the DA league when u guys pickoff most of the best players? C’mon.
And the reason the US sucks vs. international competition is that the US development system for soccer sucks and has turned soccer into a grind. Top athletes that can play multiple sports abandon soccer at huge rates. Even the best DA teams, the level of athleticism is just so low. The US national team is so incredibly slow and unathletic I don’t care what kind of coaching you give those chumps (except Pulisic) they are gonna suck.
I don’t have any problems with it.You call it picking off. I call it promoting the better players and bringing them into a pro environment. What's wrong with that? Isn't that the way it should happen? Do high-quality, local academies in Madrid bitch and complain about their players being poached when they get pulled into Real Madrid or Athletico academies? Doubt it.
Yep. Very good point. If it's about $$$, and we all know it is, then compensate downstream. Everyone wins.And outside the US, clubs get transfer fees when their youth players get poached, so its not the same circumstance.
Yes but the competition level & teams was basically the same as the league, LA United is a good local club but there not Man City, Chivas, etc. Same thing happen at man City last year when the da teams played the international teams. It's clear to see what happens even with the best local da financed teams try to compete on a bigger stage, they are lacking in technical skills overall compared to the better comp.