Girls DPL?

Well of course, when you play in a league, you play with the other teams in the league. For example: The 04 GDA in SoCal plays each other in the Southwest Region USSDA LEAGUE. Will the 03 Pilot group play each other in the Southwest Region USSDA LEAGUE, or in the CALSOUTH run DPL LEAGUE? That's my question
03 Pilot is test group in the Southwest and Frontier Region. Basically USSDA is looking to test a single age 03 division similar to the 04 single age division. They are a bit different than DPL - can't play high school and only plays other Pilot teams. In Showcases they probably will play the Frontier Division. There is still a 02-03 division next year as well. The better 03's will play the 02-03 division the other 90 percent will play 03 pilot. The remaining DPL. Good chance the following year they remove the Pilot term and have 05, 04, 03, 01-02 together....
 
That is the question...will they get the same attention or will they be the guests in the far corner? Just remember these teams are not US Soccer sanctioned and not part of the DA. DPL Pilot is asking girls to give up CRL, National Cup, High School, outside showcases/tournaments and to play in a league with no standings or playoffs. In return they are guests at 2 DA showcases. Each family will have to decide if the trade offs are worth it.
The 03 DA Pilot program is only in the Frontier and Southwest and it is US sanctioned. Do not confuse it with the DPL program.
 
The 03 DA Pilot program is only in the Frontier and Southwest and it is US sanctioned. Do not confuse it with the DPL program.

Really? Is there something official from ussda on that? Haven't seen anything on their site about any sanctioning or any mention of this at all.

Our 2002 daughter plays DA and next year her age group in a combination 02/03 and the only pure age group teams will be playing in different leagues according to what our club told us. The affiliated clubs are the ones planning on doing the Cal South DPL again.
 
Really? Is there something official from ussda on that? Haven't seen anything on their site about any sanctioning or any mention of this at all.

Our 2002 daughter plays DA and next year her age group in a combination 02/03 and the only pure age group teams will be playing in different leagues according to what our club told us. The affiliated clubs are the ones planning on doing the Cal South DPL again.
You are correct the 03 DPL pilot in the Southwest is not sanctioned by USSDA but that is what the tracksuit wearing used car salesmen want you to believe. Originally the DPL site originally included the USSoccer logo on the announcement but has since taken that down.

Please call US Soccer if you do not believe me, it is not sanctioned.
 
Take a step back, let me explain:

When the DA was formed for the girls, they created "composite" age groups for the HS girls (U16/U17 and U18/U19), which is consistent with the pyramid structure. But they didn't mirror the current boys DA structure, they shortened it by excluding U12 and U13. Thus, the girls side goes U14, U15 and narrows up to the HS age groups.

DA's U13 Pilot Program
Now, the various clubs said, whoaaaa, we have a some youngers that we would like in the DA. The DA said, no, our National Team doesn't even start until U15, but we will create a SINGLE pilot program within the DA structure to see if its worthwhile. They picked the "Frontier" Division, which is Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, etc., and the USSF created a U13 pilot program.

The DA's U13 Pilot program IS NOT the same as the DPL's U16 Pilot program. The U13 Frontier Pilot is a USSDA league, anything DPL and NPL is not.

But...but...but what about the DPL press release? Hang on, I'll get to that.

DPL, FPL, etc.

Appreciate that the DA clubs have got a problem, they have no U12-U13 teams (yet, but let's see how that Frontier Pilot program works out), they have U14 and U15 parents/players that are sold on the DA, but when it comes to the composite age U16/U17, they are going to lose half their money ... err ... players.

What to do? What do do?
The Solution: These SoCal DA Clubs created the DPL and expanded the age groups to U13 and made each year a single age group through U17 with U18/U19 being the only composite age group, which serves 2 purposes. First, it lets them add U13 and park their composite youngers U16 and allows them to send parents a "DA II ... but not DA ... but DA II ... wink, wink) sales pitch (DPL is our DA player pool). Parents loved it, sign my daughter up.

The DPL concept is now being embraced by some other parts of the world and US Youth Soccer is willing to sanction these DPL teams under its umbrella. The Frontier Players League (Texas/Colorado version of the DA) is being embraced and sanctioned by USYS as an actual National League conference. Will the DPL move to the National League? Stay tuned, my money is on "yes."

DPL's U16 Pilot Program
The DPL released this: http://dpleague.org/docs/pilot_program_release.pdf

Which states in relevant part:
As part of the programming for the DPL U16 age group, those teams will participate as guest teams in the U.S. Soccer Development Academy Winter Showcase and Summer Showcases, to compete against U-16 DA Pilot Program teams from the Frontier Division.

What we can conclude/infer is that the DPL is going to make this years U16 teams (i.e. 2003s) adhere to the same restrictions as the DA 2003/2002 Composite team and they will not only play in the U16 DPL, but will play two DA showcases as guests against the yet to be publicly acknowledge U-16 DA Pilot Program.

The problem and confusion here is the USSDA has yet to announce any U16 Pilot program for the Frontier Division or the Southwestern Division. The DPL's announcement makes it very clear that their DPL Pilot Program is not, however, sanctioned by the DA, only that these clubs will play as guests in a showcase (further evidence it IS NOT a DA sanctioned league).

In Conclusion
  • The US DA U13 - Frontier division is an actual DA sanctioned gaming circuit.
  • The US DA U16 - Frontier division MAY SOON EXIST, but has not been announced. Other than the DPL press release, I have found nothing on this.
  • The DPL is not a DA sanctioned gaming circuit, rather, its sanctioned by US Youth Soccer / Cal South.
  • The DPL U16 Pilot Program is going to follow the same restrictions as the DA imposes and play in two showcases, but will continue to play in the USYS/Cal South sanctioned leagues (National League, CRL, DPL)
  • The Frontier Players League (FPL) is not a DA sanctioned gaming circuit, rather, it is sanctioned by US Youth Soccer / Texas
 
I dunno...Lambchoppy is so much more credible and if she says the DPL '03 pilot program is DA, then it must be DA. She's a straight shooter without any obvious bias.
 
Well I have been going back and forth on these forums looking for mere scraps of information that could possibly point my DD in the right direction.

I think now the only piece of the puzzle missing is the following. Does DPL have a patch? ECNL does and GDA does. Without a patch I think DPL may be at a disadvantage as we consider where the DD should pursue her soccer dreams.
 
Well I have been going back and forth on these forums looking for mere scraps of information that could possibly point my DD in the right direction.

I think now the only piece of the puzzle missing is the following. Does DPL have a patch? ECNL does and GDA does. Without a patch I think DPL may be at a disadvantage as we consider where the DD should pursue her soccer dreams.

DPL has a patch!
 
https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clu...nd-to-compete-in-frontier-development-league/

"The FDL program will follow the same curriculum, guidelines and high level training environment as the full DA program; however, it will also allow players the freedom to play high school soccer, participate in extracurricular activities, re-enter matches after substitution, as well as compete in State Cup. Additionally, the FDL will offer players the most sought after college exposure opportunities by coordinating match schedules with the DA."
 
https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clu...nd-to-compete-in-frontier-development-league/

"The FDL program will follow the same curriculum, guidelines and high level training environment as the full DA program; however, it will also allow players the freedom to play high school soccer, participate in extracurricular activities, re-enter matches after substitution, as well as compete in State Cup. Additionally, the FDL will offer players the most sought after college exposure opportunities by coordinating match schedules with the DA."

Apparently they have common sense in Texas.
 
The 03 DA Pilot program is only in the Frontier and Southwest and it is US sanctioned. Do not confuse it with the DPL program.
I have yet to find any confirmation or other information that the DA has created a pilot program for the 2003 age group. The DPL press release clearly states the 03 pilot program is a DPL initiative, but infers there is a 2003 DA pilot program in the Frontier division. Is there any documentation out there that confirms your belief?
 
How many ways can we skin a cat?

Does it matter if it’s DA sanctioned, whether you can play HS, whether it is or isn’t the DPL from last year. Everyone knows from their club what it is and nobody is being held at gunpoint to play it.

Don’t play the pilot if you don’t want. Or play it.

Are people that hesitant to play next year? If you fall in this age group, your kid needs to play regardless of where you land.

There were DA 03s, ECNL 03s and probably some flight 1/premier kids who committed.

Its what you make of your situation.
 
I have yet to find any confirmation or other information that the DA has created a pilot program for the 2003 age group. The DPL press release clearly states the 03 pilot program is a DPL initiative, but infers there is a 2003 DA pilot program in the Frontier division. Is there any documentation out there that confirms your belief?

The offer our club made clearly states “2003 Pilot Academy Team”
 
The offer our club made clearly states “2003 Pilot Academy Team”
When will you people learn. The 03 Pilot in the Southwest is not sanctioned nor part of US Soccer/DA. I know this for a fact. Call US Soccer. While I agree that you should have your dd play on the most appropriate team regardless of title, it should make you wonder why all the smoke and mirrors to give you the impression that it is part of DA.
 
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