Mike nelms
BRONZE
Last weekend we were playing down (our whole back line and striker). Parents wanted the coach to use her daughters (two very good players). Coach refused. She said the win would be tainted. I now see what she meant.
If your team played Flt 1, they must petition to play down in Presidents and meet the criteria of winning less than 20% of their games.Kicker Por Vida -
I don't see your rational or point on attacking my integrity, you don't know me or my integrity, My DD just shows up, plays hard and balls!
Please prove to me how Arsenal broke any rules, played dirty, or any thing that was outside of the Cal South rules.
Your "integrity" comment truly applies to the use of ECNL players - which applies not just to Arsenal but to other teams that played in this tournament.
Your integrity comment is only an opinion and not based on any substantial fact . . . other than Arsenal used ECNL players, dominated the field, pissed off alot of parents and teams along the way, won the championship and appeared on Cal South Video raising the cup, other than that please show me how any rules were broken?
Isnt that PC ..? Why did your coach bold face lie in the video. If the encl girls werent on the team how was his statement about being 3 and 5 true.Kicker Por Vida
RE: What happened to "grinding harder", "getting better" and coming back better?
Not sure how to answer this .... but the EGSL Players got to play at a high level, and ECNL Players got some additional touches and playtime working on various parts of their game
Next Time I won't field such a competitive team so others can have a better change at winning! . . . What do you expect the guy to say?
No you guys didnt beat us, i thought your comment was classic. Especially the Egsl girls got to play at a high level and the Encl girls got some more touches as we tell are DD you never know who is watching...lolWhew Wee... Biz came straight out of peanut Gallery and Just had a digital outburst! Are you one of the teams that we beat ? just making sure so I can understand the context from where your outburst is coming from.
Re: RB Video - I would have to go back and look at it. But I am pretty sure he's not going to stand there and Say "Yeah we won the Championship and used ECNL players ... sorry to all the teams, and parents who are really, really, really mad at me, I am sorry that I used ECNL girls to fill up the EGSL Roster, because if we didn't we would not have enough players to play in this tourney . My apologies to all your teams, we shouldn't have scored so many times, oops My Bad! Next Time I won't field such a competitive team so others can have a better change at winning! . . . What do you expect the guy to say?
Whew Wee... Biz came straight out of peanut Gallery and Just had a digital outburst! Are you one of the teams that we beat ? just making sure so I can understand the context from where your outburst is coming from.
Re: RB Video - I would have to go back and look at it. But I am pretty sure he's not going to stand there and Say "Yeah we won the Championship and used ECNL players ... sorry to all the teams, and parents who are really, really, really mad at me, I am sorry that I used ECNL girls to fill up the EGSL Roster, because if we didn't we would not have enough players to play in this tourney . My apologies to all your teams, we shouldn't have scored so many times, oops My Bad! Next Time I won't field such a competitive team so others can have a better change at winning! . . . What do you expect the guy to say?
I wouldn't say president cup is "high level" for EGSL players. Sadly, a lot of teams worked hard for this tournament and what your team did crushed their spirit. I don't think it was fair for teams to get baKicker Por Vida
RE: What happened to "grinding harder", "getting better" and coming back better?
Not sure how to answer this .... but the EGSL Players got to play at a high level, and ECNL Players got some additional touches and playtime working on various parts of their game
Some teams worked hard for this. For RB and the parents on his team, it was just a kick around. Really, RB is bad (we all know); but it's really the parents that allowed this to happen, and continue to support it.Yes!! Exactly. I would love RB to say this. It's perfect as is. No editing needed. I remember my U10 and U12 Daughter playing AYSO a few years ago because they wanted to play together and dominate the circuit. They did and a lot of parents (on the other teams) got mad at me and actually confronted me on a few occasions. I agreed and it was unfair for me to do this. Even though my daughters had a great time and got 1% better, it was unfair for the other good AYSO teams that deserved to be there and did their best, only to lose in all the championship games to my stacked team. So, you are correct in that your ECNL players got more touches, got 1% better and probably had a great time just like my daughters did but I wasn't playing for a chance to go to CO for the regionals and take the spot of another team that probably should be going. You are correct in that if Cal South didn't complain, why is it wrong? I think this thread is basing everything off of the ethical side of things. But then again, I followed all the rules too when we won all the AYSO tournaments but should I really have done that?
Uhh, well he was same ole RB with his 04s at National Cup last weekend.Illuminiati --- it's not always not that way ... only sometimes . . .LOL . . . but yes your point is taken. . .Although for the record RB has been changing his approach ... will see if that lasts
Alright you are right. Go Arsenal Good Luck!uhhhh MayBe Not.... I was at all of this games as well ... and its quite different than how you framed it .... RB was not yelling as much ....in fact I was chuckling because the other coaches where yelling more than RB... One of them even got kicked out. That 04 team Won 4-1, 5-1, 2-0 - They controlled the game the entire time ... if he was yelling like you mentioned I would back up your statement ... but its just not the case. Keeping it real form my perspective
uhhhh MayBe Not.... I was at all of this games as well ... and its quite different than how you framed it .... RB was not yelling as much ....in fact I was chuckling because the other coaches where yelling more than RB... One of them even got kicked out. That 04 team Won 4-1, 5-1, 2-0 - They controlled the game the entire time ... if he was yelling like you mentioned I would back up your statement ... but its just not the case. Keeping it real form my perspective
Dang Striker ... Striking at the heart of things, Please know that I am truly a Nice Person ... and I don't think our parents where out of line ... its typically the other side because the other side is typically on the losing end of of a match .. Whoa, Whoa ... take it easy ... Don't get mad ... Just calling it out!
I know you want Arsenal and RB to go down, we will see, but in the short term ... My DD is developing, Raising Cups and having fun! . . I know that's not what you want to hear but it is, what is ... Toast to that!
And I agree about the girls which is why I say that they should move on because they are extremely talented and don't deserve this. They are the talent.
Looking forward to the classy sidelines this weekend with the 04 team. Hopefully they won't continue to negatively impact their children with their behaviors
Dang Striker ... Striking at the heart of things, Please know that I am truly a Nice Person ... and I don't think our parents where out of line ... its typically the other side because the other side is typically on the losing end of of a match .. Whoa, Whoa ... take it easy ... Don't get mad ... Just calling it out!
I know you want Arsenal and RB to go down, we will see, but in the short term ... My DD is developing, Raising Cups and having fun! . . I know that's not what you want to hear but it is, what is ... Toast to that!
Now this is healthy, adult dialogue. Good luck to both teams on the pitch tomorrow. One team has to come out on top but this is the way you play. Two great teams going at it for the WIN. That is soccer.Look Forward to a great match ... much respect for the Strikers club and teams they put out Good luck on, it will be fun