I’ve seen teams from all over the place play “when in doubt, kick it out”. Most frustrating thing to watch as a coach.
Cowbells and grabbing the ball after a score....
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It's the oldest defensive strategy in the world.
Messi>CR7
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My DD's coach always let parents know we need to act appropriately on the sideline, i.e. act like an ass, parent-coach, or some other shenanigans and your DD's playing time will be affected. From my own experience, nothing works quite as well as threatening parents with playing time for their kids
.It also helps as parents become more knowledgeable on soccer themselves after a few years, and have a better understanding of what is good futbol and what is/isn't a foul. I still remember at one of the U10 games my DD was body shielding an opposing forward near the goal line so the ball can roll off the pitch for a goal kick. Two parents from the opposing team went crazy and started screaming "OBSTRUCTION" at the ref. The ref rolled his eye and calmly gave them a "WTF are you talking about" look and moved on.
Sheriff Joe
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Noise makers [not my ex wife] aren't allowed at high school games, are they allowed in club?
I have not heard them being used.
Surfref
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Referee point of view. As soon as the ball goes into the net and is considered a goal the ball now belongs to the team that has the kickoff. I have seen fights start because players from the team that scored the goal try to take the ball out of the hands of the keeper or a defender that was just scored on. Besides, the kickoff cannot occur until all three referees have entered the scoring information in their books, substitutions are completed and the referee crew is ready. Getting the ball out of the back of the net is not going to speed up the game.
Surfref
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There is no where in the LOTG that says where, how far, or how hard a player can kick the ball. If I was a coach and up by a goal or two with only a few minutes left, I would prefer my players boot the ball to the next galaxy instead of the forward taking it to the corner. I have seen far to many players injured trying to guard the ball in the corner to run time off the clock and fights break out. As a referee I am extremely quick to call fouls in the corner late in the game. IMHO kicking the ball to the next galaxy is good gamesmanship.
TangoCity
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Where can I find this in the Laws of The Game?
For clarification, I am taking about the kid that grabs the ball out of the net anda promptly kicks it to the creek so that the kickoff is delayed.
Eagle33
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You obviously don't have a older age kids playing if you believe in this. At older age groups grabbing the ball by scoring team from the back of the net can result in all kinds of altercations. Just fyi, if the goal scored, ball belongs to a team who got scored on and referees will issue a caution to a player grabbing the ball more times than not.
At younger ages, kids do this because they seen it somewhere else (tv or older sibling games) or because coach or a parent asked them.
Surfref
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One thing that bugs me is dogs at or on the field. Please leave your dog at home unless it is a true service dog. If you cannot go a few hours without seeing your dog then maybe you need therapy.
Dog story: Last year at Surf Cup youngers I was a referee on a B12 game at the Polo Fields. Before the game a lady was sitting with her kids on the sideline with two rather large Labradors (for you cat people, that is a type of dog) that were playing with the kids. I politely told her that dogs are not allowed at the field and she might want to just have the dogs lay down so they are not noticeable. She looks at me and says in a sarcastic tone, "Its ok, we are with Surf." About 10 minutes into the game one of the dogs runs across the field causing the game to be stopped. A few minutes later after the game got going again, the tournament security approached the women and asked her to take the dogs off the facility. I really wanted to yell at her "I thought it was okay because you are with Surf" but remained professional and just smiled.
Dog story: Last year at Surf Cup youngers I was a referee on a B12 game at the Polo Fields. Before the game a lady was sitting with her kids on the sideline with two rather large Labradors (for you cat people, that is a type of dog) that were playing with the kids. I politely told her that dogs are not allowed at the field and she might want to just have the dogs lay down so they are not noticeable. She looks at me and says in a sarcastic tone, "Its ok, we are with Surf." About 10 minutes into the game one of the dogs runs across the field causing the game to be stopped. A few minutes later after the game got going again, the tournament security approached the women and asked her to take the dogs off the facility. I really wanted to yell at her "I thought it was okay because you are with Surf" but remained professional and just smiled.
Are Surf parents the only ones with an attitude like this? I have often heard that line but I have to believe it is only because I have been exposed more to Surf parents. Come on OC parents, are there any clubs that have parents with this same attitude?
Surfref
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Law 18. If Blue kicks the ball out for a Red Throw-in then Red owns the ball. If the ball gets kicked out by Blue for a Red Goal Kick then Red owns the ball. If Red kicks the ball out for a Blue Corner Kick then Blue owns the ball. No different for a Kickoff. Now I have to disagree with Eagle33 about issuing a Yellow card for the scoring team just grabbing the ball out of the net. Most of the time they grab the ball, the other team either says something or attempts to get the ball and the player with the ball uses profanity or gets in a tussle with the opponent. Just leave the dang ball and let the kickoff team retrieve it. If they waste time, especially in my games then someone may get a Yellow card.
The majority of post goal kickoffs without substitutions occur within 20-30 seconds and grabbing the ball out of the net is not going to speed things up. When I used to coach I would tell my players that if we are ahead near the end of the game and the other team scores to take their time getting set up for the kickoff. I would always make a substitution of one of the forwards and the left midfielder or closest player to the ref would tie their shoe delaying the kickoff even more. It is gamesmanship. Some referees will add time and some will not.
46n2
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Maybe a club that has white and blue strips?
100% with this.....Id say its parents and def TV too.....
Eagle33
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Surfref
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No it is not just Surf. I have had similar attitudes from West Coast, Blues, Beach, Slammers and Legends parents. I had a Legends mom who wanted to sit right next to the Legends goal. I politely asked her to move to the sideline. Her response was, "Don't worry about me I am with Legends." I had to get the Legends team manager involved before she would move. I had a Celtic parent try and get sarcastic with me once when I asked her to please backup off of the sideline. The Celtic coach shut her down quickly.
Ok well I always here "It's a free world and I can sit where I want to sit." But the "because I am with X club" is just too funny.
Unless I was filming I always sat where we were suppose to. And while filming I never used it as an excuse to coach during the game.
Surfref
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She was literally sitting right next to the goal post and only a foot from the field. She was not a safe distance from the field and in my opinion was a distraction to the players, keeper and referee crew. Besides I am sure she was going to try and coach her DD the keeper and the tournament rules said no coaching by spectators. If referees read the gaming rules and LOTG there is always something we can use as justification, if all else fails then it is a safety issue in the opinion of the referee.
Unfortunately, I've seen refs issue yellow cards for this action, I guess under the premise of time wasting. Not a fan of doing this or dribbling into the corner, I would rather have the kids try to play keep away from a development standpoint. While booting it to the next zip code is effective, its also the sign of a lazy coach.
I love dogs and I've always owned dogs, but dogs are dogs, they're not people. Dogs don't belong in most public places, particularly restaurants and retail stores, and certainly don't belong in places that are posted "No Dogs Allowed". If you want to treat a dog like a person, then do it at home.
Eagle33
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The only way yellow could be issued if the ball is booted while being out of bound already. Once it's on the field, on what basis anyone will issue a yellow?