ECNL Phoenix Coaches list?

Again "blah blah blah". Not sure what you posted but I am sure it was insulting. Your true colors always shine through telling all that your here only to be deconstructive.
 
I am sure you are sitting there right now trying to come up with the next witty way to insult me. Its sad to see how unhappy you are. I wish you better times.
 
So you then think that there are too many ECNL and DA teams and there should be less teams? Maybe your and my kid would then not have the same opportunities. That’s not good.
So explain this- How many DA and ECNL teams should Socal have to give every child "the same opportunity" and where should the clubs be located?
 
The competition level as compared to the original SoCal ECNL clubs isn't close. Beach, Legends and LA Galaxy(Carlsbad Elite) are relative newcomers on the scene. ECNL was an improvement in SoCal over it's predecessor CSL Premier (although Premier was for the most part merit based). DA exists in a diluted talent pool. To argue otherwise is illogical.

You mention the best DA Socal additions, but fail to mention that clubs like Pats, LA Galaxy ("South Bay"), LA Premier, and Albion, who were unremarkable girls clubs in their previous leagues, entered DA and proved that the badge does not change the product on the field. Illogical is a kind word for this specious argument.
 
You mention the best DA Socal additions, but fail to mention that clubs like Pats, LA Galaxy ("South Bay"), LA Premier, and Albion, who were unremarkable girls clubs in their previous leagues, entered DA and proved that the badge does not change the product on the field. Illogical is a kind word for this specious argument.

I have been trying to follow your example and be a little more PC and a little less blunt. But of course you are 100% correct.
 
So explain this- How many DA and ECNL teams should Socal have to give every child "the same opportunity" and where should the clubs be located?

I don't think that every child should have the same opportunity. Opportunity should be earned based on effort and skills. I just believe everyone is better off when there is choice. We can all bitch and moan about the good old days but those days are not coming back. There are over 300 Division 1 college teams and over 200 Division 2 college teams looking for players. So that is at least 3,000 to 4,000 incoming freshmen needed every year. So there is plenty of room for DA and ECNL to both exist and prosper.
 
I didn't see too many absurd mismatches. You're an 04 parent, right? Other than the MVLA-Surf game in the Phoenix Fall showcase, what other "crazy score" do you see on this list? https://tgs.totalglobalsports.com/public/schedules.aspx?eid=593&fid=2692

I was looking at all the age groups, not just the U-14 group. But yes, MVLA beating Surf's ECNL team 7-0 does stand out. It looks like the ECNL only clubs had their way with the dual ECNL/DA clubs at the showcase.
 
So explain this- How many DA and ECNL teams should Socal have to give every child "the same opportunity" and where should the clubs be located?
I think it matters where you live, we live in north OC and there are no ECNL or DA clubs that are not an hours drive at 6 pm.
 
I don't think that every child should have the same opportunity. Opportunity should be earned based on effort and skills. I just believe everyone is better off when there is choice. We can all bitch and moan about the good old days but those days are not coming back. There are over 300 Division 1 college teams and over 200 Division 2 college teams looking for players. So that is at least 3,000 to 4,000 incoming freshmen needed every year. So there is plenty of room for DA and ECNL to both exist and prosper.

The DA is supposed to be about filling the 2-3 national team slots per birth year, not benchwarmer positions for the University of Eastwestern Nowhere State. Having future national team players play in a diluted league does not advance the cause of US Soccer. 13 Socal DA clubs seems more like indecision than a well-designed strategy.

Right now, we have a system that allows parents to "choose" for their children to participate in one of these self-declared "elite" leagues, and then come on this board talking about how their player "earned" something that is closer to a participation trophy than they realize. The system may have more choice, but it has not improved.
 
The DA is supposed to be about filling the 2-3 national team slots per birth year, not benchwarmer positions for the University of Eastwestern Nowhere State. Having future national team players play in a diluted league does not advance the cause of US Soccer. 13 Socal DA clubs seems more like indecision than a well-designed strategy.

Right now, we have a system that allows parents to "choose" for their children to participate in one of these self-declared "elite" leagues, and then come on this board talking about how their player "earned" something that is closer to a participation trophy than they realize. The system may have more choice, but it has not improved.
Well said! I hope the Pansy is listening and learning!
 
I can’t add much to this conversation but I’ve followed the advice I’ve been given and focused on my kid. Living in geographic region not serviced by ECNL would have left my DD and many others we know playing SCDSL this past season. However, with Beach being given DA I now know 1 ‘03 who verbally committed to UCLA and 4 have been given real interest from D1 schools after the Florida event. I doubt that at least 4 of them would have gotten the same visibility without the DA exposure. So in our case it seems to be working out nicely.

Good Luck to everyone in their journey.
 
The DA is supposed to be about filling the 2-3 national team slots per birth year, not benchwarmer positions for the University of Eastwestern Nowhere State. Having future national team players play in a diluted league does not advance the cause of US Soccer. 13 Socal DA clubs seems more like indecision than a well-designed strategy.

Right now, we have a system that allows parents to "choose" for their children to participate in one of these self-declared "elite" leagues, and then come on this board talking about how their player "earned" something that is closer to a participation trophy than they realize. The system may have more choice, but it has not improved.

Mic drop.....
 
I can’t add much to this conversation but I’ve followed the advice I’ve been given and focused on my kid. Living in geographic region not serviced by ECNL would have left my DD and many others we know playing SCDSL this past season. However, with Beach being given DA I now know 1 ‘03 who verbally committed to UCLA and 4 have been given real interest from D1 schools after the Florida event. I doubt that at least 4 of them would have gotten the same visibility without the DA exposure. So in our case it seems to be working out nicely.

Good Luck to everyone in their journey.

Exposure is good. The one committed to UCLA is a YNT player who has had plenty of exposure and now is the earliest commit in UCLA history (She must be a unicorn) so I imagine that she would have been found even if she was just playing USYS events as she was on the radar. I don't think that playing in the GDA has made that much of a difference in the recruitment on your kid's team. Beach has been solid for awhile even without a distinctive patch. The Beach team from my player's grad year had 13+ players go to D1 schools and 3 of them are having a big impact not to mention the Real So Cal/Beach player that is a starter and impact player (and a sweet kid with a great family) on her college team. It sounds like you and the rest of the parents of players on that team are doing the right thing and focusing on your players. It doesn't hurt that Beach has 3 top notch coaches in Mauricio, Jeff and Rob.

Continued good luck to you and your player.
 
I can’t add much to this conversation but I’ve followed the advice I’ve been given and focused on my kid. Living in geographic region not serviced by ECNL would have left my DD and many others we know playing SCDSL this past season. However, with Beach being given DA I now know 1 ‘03 who verbally committed to UCLA and 4 have been given real interest from D1 schools after the Florida event. I doubt that at least 4 of them would have gotten the same visibility without the DA exposure. So in our case it seems to be working out nicely.

Good Luck to everyone in their journey.

The lack of at least one club in the South Bay and/or West Side was a self-inflicted wound for the ECNL. Pre-DA, Beach still did a good job with recruiting, particularly with the Socal colleges, and particularly that head coach. Congrats to the '03s -- that is a talented team.
 
Exposure is good. The one committed to UCLA is a YNT player who has had plenty of exposure and now is the earliest commit in UCLA history (She must be a unicorn) so I imagine that she would have been found even if she was just playing USYS events as she was on the radar. I don't think that playing in the GDA has made that much of a difference in the recruitment on your kid's team. Beach has been solid for awhile even without a distinctive patch. The Beach team from my player's grad year had 13+ players go to D1 schools and 3 of them are having a big impact not to mention the Real So Cal/Beach player that is a starter and impact player (and a sweet kid with a great family) on her college team. It sounds like you and the rest of the parents of players on that team are doing the right thing and focusing on your players. It doesn't hurt that Beach has 3 top notch coaches in Mauricio, Jeff and Rob.

Continued good luck to you and your player.
EE is a Unicorn, I agree...which is why, for the record, I left her off of the 4 that would likely not have gotten the exposure this early without DA.

Looking forward to watching a lot of UCLA games now that my youngest is playing for RR.
 
The DA is supposed to be about filling the 2-3 national team slots per birth year, not benchwarmer positions for the University of Eastwestern Nowhere State. Having future national team players play in a diluted league does not advance the cause of US Soccer. 13 Socal DA clubs seems more like indecision than a well-designed strategy.

Right now, we have a system that allows parents to "choose" for their children to participate in one of these self-declared "elite" leagues, and then come on this board talking about how their player "earned" something that is closer to a participation trophy than they realize. The system may have more choice, but it has not improved.

So it's interesting that you believe that playing DA equates to earning a participation trophy. My only objective is for my dd to have the "choice" to play college soccer. Its not about money nor is about the National Team since that's a pipe dream for almost everyone. I don't care about funneling talent to the National Team. I understand your patriotic concern for the National Team but my concern is about my kid. Simply put the more opportunities there are for kids to get exposure the better it is for them in my opinion.
 
EE is a Unicorn, I agree...which is why, for the record, I left her off of the 4 that would likely not have gotten the exposure this early without DA.

Looking forward to watching a lot of UCLA games now that my youngest is playing for RR.

I like Rafael. He knows the game. Obviously he did an outstanding job with his own players. I forgot that he told me he was taking over a couple of teams.
 
So upon checking the forecasts this weekend, it will be sunny and 90 in Phoenix :). However, it's an 100% chance of rain in North Carolina with possible snow. I see the temp is forecast low 30s.:eek: What's the weather contingency plan? Just curious...

Nevertheless safe travels to all who are traveling in the next few days. I'm looking forward to some more sunshine. :D
 
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