They had a bad year. Maybe the coach thinks the new recruits will do better.
Womens College Coaching Hotseat
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They had a bad year. Maybe the coach thinks the new recruits will do better.
goldentoe
SILVER
They have 31 on the ‘19 roster, same as ‘18. Without cuts they would have had 35-36.
I don’t know Title IX inside and out, but maybe there are NCAA limits on roster size differences from men to women. The men are carrying 27 this year.
I think they call this lawnmower parenting, taken to the extreme.
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
More reasons to fire Neil. Like I said, a first round bow out and he is gone. Should have lost to Oregon last evening if it wasn’t for that botched keeper play.
End of the Line
SILVER ELITE
You're from the East Bay and your daughter doesn't go to Cal. It sounds like your problem with McGuire is personal.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the type of people who run to daddy and file lawsuits when they get cut from sports teams are usually cancer. We'll never know why she was cut because Cal will take the high road, but I'm guessing it's because she was dragging the team down with a piss poor attitude and/or her parents were insufferable. Of course, even with the cuts, the women's team still has more players than the men. How does her lawyer explain that away? Cal violated Title IX by giving the women a bigger roster than the men, but not a much bigger roster?
board of education
BRONZE
I thought in a power 5 conference that a player couldn’t get cut? Or is it their scholarship that can’t be cut?
I think what board of education was referencing is that an NLI in the power five is good for all 4 years, and the only way a coach can get out of it is the player voluntarily transferring or quitting the team. There might be some posters that have more details...
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
Nothing against Neil. He’s underperformed at Cal for several years and honesty it would be best if the program moved on from him.
Cal is on par with UCLA in academics and is a desirable destination for smart talented female soccer player. One would expect CAL to be as successful as the school across the Bay and Amanda down south.
The people that have a beef with Neil are the 5 girls he cut and the one that’s suing him. There has to be some merit to the lawsuit. Why waste all that money and bring all that attention to your daughter.
Cancer kids usually transfer and typically don’t ask to be to be reinstated.
Cal is on par with UCLA in academics and is a desirable destination for smart talented female soccer player. One would expect CAL to be as successful as the school across the Bay and Amanda down south.
The people that have a beef with Neil are the 5 girls he cut and the one that’s suing him. There has to be some merit to the lawsuit. Why waste all that money and bring all that attention to your daughter.
Cancer kids usually transfer and typically don’t ask to be to be reinstated.
Don’t most of Cal’s teams underperform based on the type of recruits they should be pulling in?
I went to Cal and my roommates were a manager of the football team and a cheerleader, Both would show football prospects around. But the problem they faced was that while some kids loved the urban environment, it was a little too urban for most kids, especially those from out of state. Today those same issues exist. If you are on the western side of campus the amount of homeless and tweakers is out of control, although the campus and the rest of the neighborhood is pretty nice these days. My son goes there and loves it but many of his friends chose UCLA because Westwood is way cleaner.
I believe a player can be released from any program at any time. The binding part is the scholarship. You may release but they would still be on aid unless they quit or transferred. Thus when a player is a non-scholarship player, it's as if the coach is releasing a regular student from campus that tried out and wasn't good enough.
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
Cal had darn good basketball team when Montgomery was there. Then that carried a for a few when Bozeman took over.
Same for football in the Mariucci and Telford era.
Same for football in the Mariucci and Telford era.
A non-scholarship player listed on the roster may still get special treatments, such as early class selection, preferred housing requests, excused absences from classes for away games and home games that interfere with class schedule, etc, depending on the college policies and/or major.
True but if you look at where the stars of those teams came from, most were local or grew up in sketchy neighborhoods so Berkeley was not a shock to them. Under Montgomery his star Randel grew up a few miles away and Christopher was from a sketchy part of LA if I am not mistaken. Bozeman had local Kidd and paid off parents to get players. Telford had Rodgers as his quarterback and although he was from Chico spent a lot of time in the area between moves.
I bet if you look at top collegiate teams throughout all sports (other than sports where a region of the US has the bulk of the best players due to being more popular for kids to play like waterpolo, beach volley etc ) you will find that top teams have players from throughout the country. Berkeley’s soccer team has a large percentage from not only the Bay Area, but girls that played at Mustangs. Didn’t half of last years recruits come from Mustang before his dd decided to go to UCSB at the last minute?
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eastbaysoccer
GOLD
Saw that Neil works at mustang as do his assistants. Is that allowed by the ncaa?
Yes it is allowed. I would say the majority of college coaches also coach at the club level. Although it must be an interesting conversation talking to your club players about their collegiate goals.
Yes. My son's last "club" tournament was as a free-agent signee with the Davis Legacy BU19 club team playing at the Surf Thanksgiving tournament in San Diego his Freshman year at UC Davis, after the Varsity season had concluded. The coach of the Davis team was an assistant coach at UC Davis.
Interesting that the coach did that. Coaches are not allowed to coach their own players in the offseason.
Justus
GOLD
I have no clue on any of the rules for girls sports so I won't go there. However, we should try and be like the, http://www.socalhoops.com/southern.htm. I don't think you will see Coach Cronin and his assistants also coaching one the top Socal AAU Travel teams like, Double Pump Pump N Run All Star Traveling Teams. You might see a AAU coach take head job or be assistant college, but they never get or do both.
eastbaysoccer
GOLD
Colleges the could make a change at the end of the year if the coaches are at the end of their contract:
Oregon (look @OSU, made great improvements w new coach)
St. Mary’s (Paul Radcliffe and Sapsford were successful there so it can be done)
Pacific (lost with prior coach and current coach. Not sure new coach is the answer) Maybe more full scholarships or better facilities is part of the answer?)
Oregon (look @OSU, made great improvements w new coach)
St. Mary’s (Paul Radcliffe and Sapsford were successful there so it can be done)
Pacific (lost with prior coach and current coach. Not sure new coach is the answer) Maybe more full scholarships or better facilities is part of the answer?)