Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

Paul Spacey said:
CSL announced today that the fall season would be pushed back from 3 Oct to 17 Oct.

Yes, we all desperately WANT to play but it doesn't matter if it's GA, CSL, SCDSL, ECNL or anyone else; games in SoCal anytime in the coming months look to be almost impossible. The next likely step is to push them back to November; that will happen sometime later this month.
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CSL and SCDSL already did a smart thing dividing the season into 2 parts. Now they will just have to cancel 1st and start with 2nd in January.
 
happy9 said:
Maybe it's back on, hope so for ECNLs sake. They had taken the timer down off of the website. Then the proverbial grapevine had announced the cancellation. Hopefully it's still on, great for the hospitality/food service business in that part of Phoenix. By NOV, all fields should be open.
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I can't claim any inside information, just that we were told we were signed up for it and it was on as of a few days ago.
 
EOTL said:
This is a really solid and cogent article. It is absolutely, positively critical to know what other factors contribute to people dying of Covid so that we can better target efforts to reducing risks for people in those higher risk categories who are likely to die from it. This saves lives not only for those who get C19, but for many other reasons as well.

Unfortunately, you have irresponsible, uneducated complete dumbs**ts like @MSK357 who misrepresent a hugely important process to falsely claim that it proves no one is dying of C19. Maybe he believes it, but probably he’s doing this only because he’s humiliated that he predicted 15, then 40, then 100, then no more deaths than 12,000, then no more than 60,000 followed by absolutely positively never in the hundreds of thousands. Regardless, think about it. We have an idiot who is trying to tear down and misrepresent basic processes that are critical to saving lives because he’s embarrassed and too much of a p**sy to admit that he’s wrong, and wrong, and wrong, and wrong, and then wrong again.

In fact, @MSK357’s argument is so ridiculously stupid in its face that it is hard to believe anyone supports it. Consider, for example, the death certificate that lists covid, heart disease and obesity as causes of death. By his insane logic, they didn’t die of covid because it was heart disease and obesity. But that also means they didn’t die of heart disease because they died of the other two. And they also didn’t die from obesity because they died of the other two.

The type of anti-science b.s. that folks like @MSK357 spew should be mocked at every possible opportunity. Very few, but still too many, people read and accept stupid posts like his and refuse to put in the effort necessary to read or understand actual science, or political reasoning, or anything on a subject by those who actually know what they’re talking about. They need to be humiliated over and over again until it is very clear that they need to keep their unthoughtful s**t anonymous, and are driven back under their little rocks and other dark places where cockroaches congregate.

Thank you for posting this article. I’m sure we won’t see any legitimate article from @MSK357 in response.
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i must have really got under your skin. please tell me more. lol
 
Keepermom2 said:
My brother was in Tahoe last weekend for work and said it was packed!
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It’s been the busiest I’ve ever seen it in my life all summer and we spend time up there every single year.
That is not to say that some segments haven’t been absolutely devastated because they have. Just not Tahoe!
 
Soccerfan2 said:
It’s been the busiest I’ve ever seen it in my life all summer and we spend time up there every single year.
That is not to say that some segments haven’t been absolutely devastated because they have. Just not Tahoe!
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I agree, I never seen it so busy. Tahoe City is the worst right now for traffic. Tahoe's housing market is through the roof with multiple offers. Its nuts!
 
Soccerfan2 said:
It’s been the busiest I’ve ever seen it in my life all summer and we spend time up there every single year.
That is not to say that some segments haven’t been absolutely devastated because they have. Just not Tahoe!
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Certainly busy! We were there mainly during the week, but the weekend days that we were there were bananas. Hiking/biking in any direction usually gave you some breathing space.
 
The Outlaw said:
I don't disagree with that but here's the thing... my club is surviving, my kid is getting exercise, the dream is still alive, our coaches are able to keep the lights on and what little socialization she gets is available 3 days a week on grass.

It's cheaper than a gym membership + therapy.
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100% agree with this. 100%. Make that 1000%. We are training and while it hurts to not play games in anger, the kids are making do. Kids are resilient as all hell, the past six months have shown that to me plain as day.
 
Eagle33 said:
CSL and SCDSL already did a smart thing dividing the season into 2 parts. Now they will just have to cancel 1st and start with 2nd in January.
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CIF's move to spring is looking like the smartest move of them all.

The wishful thinking scheduling for Socal teams without getting approval is not helping anything. The leagues really need to be rational and realistic and get a grip. When you already had 3x schedules and counting it's just wheels spinning and a waste of time and resources.

The run-around and tap dancing for the near future scheduling should just halt or wait. When there is approval or a high chance schedule the games but don't bother otherwise we don't need more wishfull empty promises, schedules, pushback, reschedule, delays, reschedule, and a possible cancel after all that nonsense. If you can't delivery don't schedule and call it like it is: soccer training for the fall.
 
gotothebushes said:
I agree, I never seen it so busy. Tahoe City is the worst right now for traffic. Tahoe's housing market is through the roof with multiple offers. Its nuts!
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All the heat and smoke in NorCal isn't helping, either. I know many practices have been inconsistent and the majority have been cancelled out towards Sacramento. People getting out of the heat AND air but I've heard Tahoe/Reno isn't much better. I've also heard bay area natives are bailing and going east, where the prices are 25-50% as much, since these people can now work from home. Interested to see if that impacts the bigger bay area clubs up north here.
 
lafalafa said:
CIF's move to spring is looking like the smartest move of them all.

The wishful thinking scheduling for Socal teams without getting approval is not helping anything. The leagues really need to be rational and realistic and get a grip. When you already had 3x schedules and counting it's just wheels spinning and a waste of time and resources.

The run-around and tap dancing for the near future scheduling should just halt or wait. When there is approval or a high chance schedule the games but don't bother otherwise we don't need more wishfull empty promises, schedules, pushback, reschedule, delays, reschedule, and a possible cancel after all that nonsense. If you can't delivery don't schedule and call it like it is: soccer training for the fall.
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Excellent take on HS and the CIF schedulers. The tease is what's so bad. I had to tell my DD the great park has to close for a time so they can figure out the new colors and then the new Cohort 14 only allowed with coach. It's super confusing now. My dd sprained her wrist so the time off is cool. The tease and carrot playing is next to cruel and unusal. Sickos out there messing with the kids mind and their freedom. Soccerhelper feels soccer is therapeutic for many kids and can help with so much other issue.
 
lafalafa said:
CIF's move to spring is looking like the smartest move of them all.

The wishful thinking scheduling for Socal teams without getting approval is not helping anything. The leagues really need to be rational and realistic and get a grip. When you already had 3x schedules and counting it's just wheels spinning and a waste of time and resources.

The run-around and tap dancing for the near future scheduling should just halt or wait. When there is approval or a high chance schedule the games but don't bother otherwise we don't need more wishfull empty promises, schedules, pushback, reschedule, delays, reschedule, and a possible cancel after all that nonsense. If you can't delivery don't schedule and call it like it is: soccer training for the fall.
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The run around is because it is easier to bill parents each month when it shows that games are starting in the very near future. These clubs love nothing more than payments from the parents.
 
lafalafa said:
The run-around and tap dancing for the near future scheduling should just halt or wait.
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"We're going to start on Oct 3" going to "we're going to start on Oct 17" going to "we are going to start on Nov 7" going to "we are going to start on Nov 21" is going to get really, really annoying in a hurry.
 
notintheface said:
Kids are resilient as all hell, the past six months have shown that to me plain as day.
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Unfortunately, not all of them are.

www.theatlantic.com

We Flattened the Curve. Our Kids Belong in School.

Communities that worked hard to beat the coronavirus should reap the benefits of doing so.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com

"Suicide is now the leading cause of death among children age 10 to 14," she said.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Unfortunately, not all of them are.

www.theatlantic.com

We Flattened the Curve. Our Kids Belong in School.

Communities that worked hard to beat the coronavirus should reap the benefits of doing so.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com

"Suicide is now the leading cause of death among children age 10 to 14," she said.
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Agreed. Everytime I hear "kids are resilient" I remember that, more often than not, kids are survivors. That's not the case all the time.
 
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