Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

Are you still not understanding what a pandemic is? Let me help. In a pandemic, a lot of people are going to die if you don’t take action that hurts the economy. And if you don’t take action, the economy will still suffer because a lot more people than that are going to die. There is no solution in which no one dies and everything proceeds as if nothing has happened.

What you need to ask yourself is how many people people are worth sacrificing so your child gets to go to school in person? Go to soccer practice? How many people do you think are ok to sacrifice so you can get a beer at the pub? What is that number?

We’d be past this, and little Sally would be lacing them up on Saturdays and back at school, if ya’ll weren’t so stupid. We could get past this even still if people would do what they should. However, the only number that is too much for you and a lot of others happens to be “one more than the number of people who actually die because my life was inconvenienced, whatever that ends up being”. So instead, you get exactly what you’re getting. People continue to die at too high a rate, but not nearly at the rate at which you’re willing to sacrifice them so you can get a beer and Sally can play Albion, because the state if CA does not share your utter disregard for the lives of other people. And the economy also continues to suffer because there is no amount of inconvenience that is too little for you. Unfortunately, this is America where people are more than happy to sacrifice others if it means they don’t have to make any sacrifice themselves.

I’m not fearful. I’m not a doomsdayer. I’m not going to die and it would take close to the apocalypse to change my life in any meaningful sense. I’m just telling you what is actually happening and why. I got the same delusional “nuh-uh you’re an idiot” bluster and memes from the GDA Mafia, and I can’t help but notice that they’re largely the same people, wouldn’t you agree @LASTMAN14? At least @Simisoccerfan had the good sense to STFU once, as per usual, his prognostications ended up being wildly inaccurate.

You truly are a fascinating case study. At least you are consistent with your ideology - that has to be admired (kinda). The goal posts have certainly moved since this all started. CA has not disappointed, moving the goalpost as needed in order to walk the partisan line. Other states are taking prudent measures, trying to be responsible with their populations, even after completely screwing it up (insert NYC and New Jersey here). There are others that come to mind as well.

Your approach is one sided, filled with the hope that a vaccine, which is being rushed, driven by financial and political gain, will be the cure all. Except that society will react to this vaccine just like any other vaccine. Not all will take it. Heaven help us if someone mandates that the vaccine will be mandatory. Nothing like like angst, anxiety, and fear to try and control the narrative. And before you say something nonsensical like I don't believe in the virus, I do. I wear a mask, I social distance, etc, etc, blah blah. I also eat out and allow my kids to play soccer. I want them to go back to school in person. I expect that responsible business owners will do the right thing and implement practices that make sense - that's how you get my business. The same goes for things like school districts, etc.

Shutting down indefinitely is irrational. We already did not once, won't happen again.
 
Let's keep on track fellas. Are we going to have any soccer that is legal in Cali this fall? I'm hearing of buses heading out to Utah and AZ the next three weeks. I'm not driving to AZ or Utah unless it's SW ECNL. It has to be the top top for us to drive out of the state. No one got time for that. My dd wants college 100% and is open to play anywhere in the USA.!!! I'm so proud of her for getting great grades and working hard at her craft.
Get with the program - get on the bus! The top top is already happening. Big bash this weekend just south of PHX. ECNL, MLS all getting together to play great soccer in the desert. Blues and Rebs also headed this way this weekend to play AZ teams.
 
Please post proof of one of your "I'm hearing of" rumors. Just this once. Please.
I can't share the text I got from a dear friend that is going to the Cactus Cup September 18th-20th. Their taking vans, so sorry for saying buses. The other friend of my dd is heading out to Utah Labor Day. They might rent a bus and go in style, My goat got the invite but the competition is sub par and it aint worth the drive for a few soccer games. I'm not that addicted to watching my dd ball to drive that far. So imagine this. Family take a drive in the van or family station wagon to AZ next few weeks. What else you think they will be looking at?
 
Get with the program - get on the bus! The top top is already happening. Big bash this weekend just south of PHX. ECNL, MLS all getting together to play great soccer in the desert. Blues and Rebs also headed this way this weekend to play AZ teams.
I was being super sarcastic in other post. I will drive anywhere to see my dd play a game :)
 
I can't share the text I got from a dear friend that is going to the Cactus Cup September 18th-20th. Their taking vans, so sorry for saying buses. The other friend of my dd is heading out to Utah Labor Day. They might rent a bus and go in style, My goat got the invite but the competition is sub par and it aint worth the drive for a few soccer games. I'm not that addicted to watching my dd ball to drive that far. So imagine this. Family take a drive in the van or family station wagon to AZ next few weeks. What else you think they will be looking at?
I know of at least half dozen teams from San Diego going to Utah this weekend to play in a tournament.
 
Get with the program - get on the bus! The top top is already happening. Big bash this weekend just south of PHX. ECNL, MLS all getting together to play great soccer in the desert. Blues and Rebs also headed this way this weekend to play AZ teams.
Buses and more buses heading to AZ. Are these ECNL league games?
 
Look at the bright side. A lot of those soccer coaches are Dems, right? So maybe they're part of the international cabal of pedophiles that you QAnon people talk about? So now that we know, we are keeping our kids away from them. They will all be taken down when The Storm comes (is that after the election? And when does #MAGA happen?) and replaced by non-pedophile coaches.
It's all working.
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Equal Justice under the Socal Soccer Forum rules. Dom is fair minded and is for soccer 99%. Politics is for the off topic section and makes things interesting. It's hard to bite your tongue and swallow your pride sometimes, but now is the time to eat some humble pie, sprinkled with some Grace :)
 
Can we get guarantee start times? Meaning, 7am or 7pm?
I don't know the entire schedule, multiple clubs involved. My oldest (son) plays at 10 AM in Casa Grande. I don't know where the girls are playing, mine isn't involved this weekend. They will play a CA team the following weekend somewhere in PHX.
 
You aren’t listening. I am not making the rules, I’m just telling you what is happening and why. Unlike some of you, I’m not denying that 187,000 people have died plus 1,000 more every day. I’m not denying that even more people will die if young people are allowed to super spread it at school and elsewhere. I’m not even denying that the economy isn’t in terrible shape. Shoot, I even admitted that 30k (and occasionally up to 60k) is an acceptable number of people dying of the flu. The only people in denial are those who think they and everyone else can do whatever they want without any meaningful impact on the Covid-19 death rate. It’s like ya’ll are living in the Covid version of libertarian fantasyland where there are no laws or government, everyone gets to do what they want, so everything is perfect, everyone is happy, and you aren’t contributing to behavior that is getting people killed. I’m sure there are lots of rainbows and butterflies too.

I thought I made it clear earlier that my home and my job will not be lost, but thank you for caring. If you might lose your home of your job, maybe you’re ok with a million people dying. Ok. Just admit it. Just say you don’t care how many people die for your daughter to play soccer or go to school in person. At least that’s intellectually honest, unlike the mental gymnastics people are putting themselves through to rationalize getting what they want without any responsibility for the deaths that would result from it.

And enough with whatabout-isming Germany. They’re losing somewhere between 0-3 people a day. If we ever get there, which we won’t until there’s a vaccine because we’re dumb Americans, feel free to make the same protest. But we haven’t earned that. Not even close. I know it sucks that the idea of American exceptionalism that you grew up with is over and has become a complete farce; that Covid has exposed that we are far stupider than most of the developed world; that we are not up to the challenge, or any challenge really.
Yawn.
 
I don't know the entire schedule, multiple clubs involved. My oldest (son) plays at 10 AM in Casa Grande. I don't know where the girls are playing, mine isn't involved this weekend. They will play a CA team the following weekend somewhere in PHX.
Here's my honest take on soccer in three weeks in AZ. Not a good idea for my goat. September 25-27th in Oceanside or Del Mar Surf Cup sounds a lot better then Cactus Cup September 18th. I'm not making lite of the great Cactus Cup. I just dont want to drive that far. I want to go to AZ for ECNL. However, if the top dogs in AZ hosted a little friendly, that would be swell.
 
You truly are a fascinating case study. At least you are consistent with your ideology - that has to be admired (kinda). The goal posts have certainly moved since this all started. CA has not disappointed, moving the goalpost as needed in order to walk the partisan line. Other states are taking prudent measures, trying to be responsible with their populations, even after completely screwing it up (insert NYC and New Jersey here). There are others that come to mind as well.

Your approach is one sided, filled with the hope that a vaccine, which is being rushed, driven by financial and political gain, will be the cure all. Except that society will react to this vaccine just like any other vaccine. Not all will take it. Heaven help us if someone mandates that the vaccine will be mandatory. Nothing like like angst, anxiety, and fear to try and control the narrative. And before you say something nonsensical like I don't believe in the virus, I do. I wear a mask, I social distance, etc, etc, blah blah. I also eat out and allow my kids to play soccer. I want them to go back to school in person. I expect that responsible business owners will do the right thing and implement practices that make sense - that's how you get my business. The same goes for things like school districts, etc.

Shutting down indefinitely is irrational. We already did not once, won't happen again.

Thx! For the record, I am not putting my eggs into the vaccine basket. Like CA, I look at it like the end game. We’ll know by Dec if it’s happening soon. If it is and then it works, great. If it doesn’t, you are right we can’t do this forever, and people now need to die for the common good IMO. See how easy that is? None of this rubbish about how everyone will be fine if we get back to work, school and soccer - or it’s their fault. No denial as to the inevitable consequences of those actions.

CA is also not “moving the goalposts”, which is a poor analogy. As more is learned about the virus, as more is learned about the ways in which (and places where) certain people keep screwing things up for the rest of us, CA must adjust accordingly. The better analogy is that idiots like @MSK357 and @Grace T. keep moving the goalposts, constantly forcing CA to kick in different directions.
 
Thx! For the record, I am not putting my eggs into the vaccine basket. Like CA, I look at it like the end game. We’ll know by Dec if it’s happening soon. If it is and then it works, great. If it doesn’t, you are right we can’t do this forever, and people now need to die for the common good IMO. See how easy that is? None of this rubbish about how everyone will be fine if we get back to work, school and soccer - or it’s their fault. No denial as to the inevitable consequences of those actions.

CA is also not “moving the goalposts”, which is a poor analogy. As more is learned about the virus, as more is learned about the ways in which (and places where) certain people keep screwing things up for the rest of us, CA must adjust accordingly. The better analogy is that idiots like @MSK357 and @Grace T. keep moving the goalposts, constantly forcing CA to kick in different directions.
You still going. Pay must be by the post
 
LOL. You sir, are the only that sees things clearly. This thread must be heaven for the troll. So many people feeding him at the same time.

I think you are confused. Someone telling you what you don’t want to hear is not trolling. It’s the person who responds with nothing but the personal attack who is the troll. If you’re gonna troll buddy, at least do it well.
 
If you'll notice, there are many here that don't keep it to soccer and don't get suspended. In fact, both times I WAS suspended, I replied to people that went off topic first. Notice neither of them got suspended? All I ask is for fairness and it's not the case. I'll just start reporting people since they feel the need to report me. And I don't give a fuck about suspensions here.

NorCal is smokey. Thanks for asking.

Your whiny post is off topic. But maybe when @Sheriff Joe and @messy finish their time outs you’ll have quorum and can you do something about it. Assuming you can keep it together until then.
 
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