Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

Anything be who still thinks there will be a fall season at all in so cal needs a reality check- the clubs and Cal South just don’t want to say it

That's the frustrating part, US Club, Cal South need to just announce it already... because saying nothing only prompts rumors, misinformation, etc. "Oh my friends neighbors cousin baby daddy uncle heard that we're starting on such and such date".. then poof a thread evolves and ultimately does nothing except stir up an argument amongst the covid posters... oh and of course a story from @EJ lol
 
That's the frustrating part, US Club, Cal South need to just announce it already... because saying nothing only prompts rumors, misinformation, etc. "Oh my friends neighbors cousin baby daddy uncle heard that we're starting on such and such date".. then poof a thread evolves and ultimately does nothing except stir up an argument amongst the covid posters... oh and of course a story from @EJ lol
I don’t blame US Club or Cal South but I do blame our state government for their lack of clarity and transparency. The reason the soccer governing bodies probably are not cancelling is because the governor can wake up tomorrow and suddenly allow youth soccer. He has shown himself to be poor at leading and changing his mind on a whim. I can remember earlier on this summer that countries were going to have to show 14 days of no deaths in order to open. That was several iterations of his “opening” plan ago but it shows he can change his mind at anytime.
 
I believe we will have a Fall season. I mean we just got the new uniforms and all!
I believe deep down in my heart that we will have some games this fall for ECNL. I can't speak on other leagues. I heard a rumor that I just wont share right now because it would be just rubbing salt in a woon. I believe in Soccer so much, that I bought my dd new uniform, paid her dues, paid for her video, booked hotel and now just waiting to see her play via live-stream. I skipped practice again last night to keep the crowd size down at Great Park.
 
I believe deep down in my heart that we will have some games this fall for ECNL. I can't speak on other leagues. I heard a rumor that I just wont share right now because it would be just rubbing salt in a woon. I believe in Soccer so much, that I bought my dd new uniform, paid her dues, paid for her video, booked hotel and now just waiting to see her play via live-stream. I skipped practice again last night to keep the crowd size down at Great Park.
got to love Great Park! In case you are feeling sick, you can just take a test right next to your practice!
 
got to love Great Park! In case you are feeling sick, you can just take a test right next to your practice!
You took the words right out of my mind. You got everything at Great Park. Balloon, Hockey, Baseball, Soccer, Tennis, Softball and Covid Testing. I feel super safe & blessed :)
 
You are correct, IF those projections do come out close to their predictive values, then the death rates would be almost the same for Arizona vs California.
To be honest I don't put much faith in those projections.

For the1st 7 months Cal has what 13k deaths? And the model projects that in the next 4 months deaths will jump 36k more? That seems rather unlikely to say the least.
 
"There have now been 26,000 covid positive tests reported on 29 different college campuses. There are ZERO student hospitalizations as a result."
It really should not come as a surprise. The CDC data consistently shows that under 24s have really no risk.

We all see the news reports about various colleges having x amount test positive and it is always a WOW news story.

They never circle around to follow up to let us know...never mind nothing actually happened.
 
"There have now been 26,000 covid positive tests reported on 29 different college campuses. There are ZERO student hospitalizations as a result."

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To make this argument properly, wait 3 weeks, and include the number of hospitalizations in those college towns. The students may be fine, but the professors and the old guy who runs the pizza shop may or may not be.
 
I was thinking 3 weeks from now. Give the students time to infect each other, then wait to see whether the townies get sick.
Haven't the kids been there for 3 weeks now? If they are infecting each other they should also be infecting the the townies. Kids are going to stores, restaurants, any entertainment since they got there. why 3 more weeks?
 
To make this argument properly, wait 3 weeks, and include the number of hospitalizations in those college towns. The students may be fine, but the professors and the old guy who runs the pizza shop may or may not be.

Good point that many here are overlooking. We just don't have definitive data on the impact on adults when cases spike among children and young adults. I heard some players came back from Arizona tourney with covid. I'm sure the players will be fine but what if their coach now has it? What about the parents? Just too many unknowns.
 
Haven't the kids been there for 3 weeks now? If they are infecting each other they should also be infecting the the townies. Kids are going to stores, restaurants, any entertainment since they got there. why 3 more weeks?
Look at the pattern in Arizona. The uptick in cases started May 28. Peak deaths were July 28. 2 months.

It takes time for the disease to spread, so it takes time to see what is happening. So we wait.
 
"The data are striking," said Dr. Raszka. "The key takeaway is that children are not driving the pandemic. After six months, we have a wealth of accumulating data showing that children are less likely to become infected and seem less infectious; it is congregating adults who aren't following safety protocols who are responsible for driving the upward curve."


"These data all suggest that children are not significant drivers of the COVID-19 pandemic. It is unclear why documented SARS-CoV-2 transmission from children to other children or adults is so infrequent."

 
Look at the pattern in Arizona. The uptick in cases started May 28. Peak deaths were July 28. 2 months.

It takes time for the disease to spread, so it takes time to see what is happening. So we wait.
I doubt you see any data showing an increase in deaths that can be attributed to the colleges.

The individual numbers per institution and considering overall state totals are small. These are not daily numbers happening over and over again.
 
This would be the last straw if we still lived in CA.
Be careful saying this-posters will accuse you of "wanting people to die so your kid can get some candy". (At least that's the response I got when mentioning my disdain with this on another thread.)
 
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