Why I feel DA is the superior league

Fred Fred

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ECNL, you had a great run but it is hard for you to argue that you are the "elite" league. I will go through some common comments and topics you will get from ECNL folks. I want to state that ECNL is a good league and can get your daughter some competition and probably a scholarship, but they can not compete with DA. DA is the elite league in SoCal.
1. The competition
If you look at ECNL standings, look closely...at Goal Differential, usually after the 3rd or 4th team the GD goes to double digit negative. blues and slammers beat up on everyone else.
DA, usually is about the 9th or 10th team to get double digit negative
It is clear as day that DA is much more competitive. Also, don't give me the response that Crossfire and PDA are in ecnl because as a socal team you will see them maybe, if you are get a good draw, one game a year but will see the local teams much more.

2. "ECNL has more girls scholarships and continues to get more of the college coaches at their events"
DUH. ECNL has been around longer but every year DA gets more and more coaches to come to their events because they are just managed better (more on that later). It will take time until DA reaches the amount of scholarships that ecnl has done. Because they are a new! But for those who think new things can't out last who got there first....ask blockbuster, Toys R us and Radio shack how they feel about Netflix and Amazon.

3. "ECNL allows my kid to play HS soccer"
You should not want to play HS soccer if you are a club player, the competition just isn't as goos, teammates are usualyl not as good and so much risk for injury when you play against players that may only be playing because they want to play a sport. HS soccer is very sloppy and the field conditions usually aren't great. DA has their teams play DA teams that are properly coached and know how to play on proper fields.

4. Safety
DA has rules setup for one game a day, 18 hour rule, can't play 3 games in 3 days. The fact that so many parents aren't in love with a league that wants to protect your kid is mind boggling. They have trainers on site and always has water available. ECNL on the other hand will have your 14-18 year old daughter continue to play in tournaments where they will play 5 games in two days! If their team makes it to the final they will can play 3 games on one Sunday on a full 11v11 field. That increases the chance of injury and puts so much stress on the body, that is not safe.

This argument will change if more clubs switch or go "all in". However, I am hearing rumblings that blues may go "all in" for DA....if they do, I don't think there is any argument that DA is the elite league.

I wish you all the best of luck and hope your DD makes it as far as she can but if you are looking for the best competition and a league that truly wants to develop players and keep them safe, DA is the way to go.
 
ECNL, you had a great run but it is hard for you to argue that you are the "elite" league. I will go through some common comments and topics you will get from ECNL folks. I want to state that ECNL is a good league and can get your daughter some competition and probably a scholarship, but they can not compete with DA. DA is the elite league in SoCal.
1. The competition
If you look at ECNL standings, look closely...at Goal Differential, usually after the 3rd or 4th team the GD goes to double digit negative. blues and slammers beat up on everyone else.
DA, usually is about the 9th or 10th team to get double digit negative
It is clear as day that DA is much more competitive. Also, don't give me the response that Crossfire and PDA are in ecnl because as a socal team you will see them maybe, if you are get a good draw, one game a year but will see the local teams much more.

2. "ECNL has more girls scholarships and continues to get more of the college coaches at their events"
DUH. ECNL has been around longer but every year DA gets more and more coaches to come to their events because they are just managed better (more on that later). It will take time until DA reaches the amount of scholarships that ecnl has done. Because they are a new! But for those who think new things can't out last who got there first....ask blockbuster, Toys R us and Radio shack how they feel about Netflix and Amazon.

3. "ECNL allows my kid to play HS soccer"
You should not want to play HS soccer if you are a club player, the competition just isn't as goos, teammates are usualyl not as good and so much risk for injury when you play against players that may only be playing because they want to play a sport. HS soccer is very sloppy and the field conditions usually aren't great. DA has their teams play DA teams that are properly coached and know how to play on proper fields.

4. Safety
DA has rules setup for one game a day, 18 hour rule, can't play 3 games in 3 days. The fact that so many parents aren't in love with a league that wants to protect your kid is mind boggling. They have trainers on site and always has water available. ECNL on the other hand will have your 14-18 year old daughter continue to play in tournaments where they will play 5 games in two days! If their team makes it to the final they will can play 3 games on one Sunday on a full 11v11 field. That increases the chance of injury and puts so much stress on the body, that is not safe.

This argument will change if more clubs switch or go "all in". However, I am hearing rumblings that blues may go "all in" for DA....if they do, I don't think there is any argument that DA is the elite league.

I wish you all the best of luck and hope your DD makes it as far as she can but if you are looking for the best competition and a league that truly wants to develop players and keep them safe, DA is the way to go.

Whatever.
 
Although I appreciate the fact you are trying to liven things up around here, you are just rehashing the old argument. In reality you do present the opportunity to restate the FACT that each league has its pluses and minuses and there is no singular answer as to which is best for everyone.
 
ECNL, you had a great run but it is hard for you to argue that you are the "elite" league. I will go through some common comments and topics you will get from ECNL folks. I want to state that ECNL is a good league and can get your daughter some competition and probably a scholarship, but they can not compete with DA. DA is the elite league in SoCal.
1. The competition
If you look at ECNL standings, look closely...at Goal Differential, usually after the 3rd or 4th team the GD goes to double digit negative. blues and slammers beat up on everyone else.
DA, usually is about the 9th or 10th team to get double digit negative
It is clear as day that DA is much more competitive. Also, don't give me the response that Crossfire and PDA are in ecnl because as a socal team you will see them maybe, if you are get a good draw, one game a year but will see the local teams much more.

2. "ECNL has more girls scholarships and continues to get more of the college coaches at their events"
DUH. ECNL has been around longer but every year DA gets more and more coaches to come to their events because they are just managed better (more on that later). It will take time until DA reaches the amount of scholarships that ecnl has done. Because they are a new! But for those who think new things can't out last who got there first....ask blockbuster, Toys R us and Radio shack how they feel about Netflix and Amazon.

3. "ECNL allows my kid to play HS soccer"
You should not want to play HS soccer if you are a club player, the competition just isn't as goos, teammates are usualyl not as good and so much risk for injury when you play against players that may only be playing because they want to play a sport. HS soccer is very sloppy and the field conditions usually aren't great. DA has their teams play DA teams that are properly coached and know how to play on proper fields.

4. Safety
DA has rules setup for one game a day, 18 hour rule, can't play 3 games in 3 days. The fact that so many parents aren't in love with a league that wants to protect your kid is mind boggling. They have trainers on site and always has water available. ECNL on the other hand will have your 14-18 year old daughter continue to play in tournaments where they will play 5 games in two days! If their team makes it to the final they will can play 3 games on one Sunday on a full 11v11 field. That increases the chance of injury and puts so much stress on the body, that is not safe.

This argument will change if more clubs switch or go "all in". However, I am hearing rumblings that blues may go "all in" for DA....if they do, I don't think there is any argument that DA is the elite league.

I wish you all the best of luck and hope your DD makes it as far as she can but if you are looking for the best competition and a league that truly wants to develop players and keep them safe, DA is the way to go.


Just like a “shiny new toy” mines better than yours and congrats to your DD

1. If there isn’t a DA program, safe to say you’ll be associated with an ECNL program

2. If they allowed DA players to play HS, safe to say HS soccer would be more competitive? My DD played HS soccer last year and had a great time reconnecting with her school friends and families. Playing time (limited) was discussed with her HS coach in order to stay healthy.

No regret playing ECNL this coming season. As an 03 player, it’s not about wins/loss or goal differentials. It’s about a platform for her to get exposed and hopeful to continue soccer in college. We do miss having a trainer during practice sessions ..

Good luck to all our DDs this season and stay injury free....
 
ECNL, you had a great run but it is hard for you to argue that you are the "elite" league. I will go through some common comments and topics you will get from ECNL folks. I want to state that ECNL is a good league and can get your daughter some competition and probably a scholarship, but they can not compete with DA. DA is the elite league in SoCal.
1. The competition
If you look at ECNL standings, look closely...at Goal Differential, usually after the 3rd or 4th team the GD goes to double digit negative. blues and slammers beat up on everyone else.
DA, usually is about the 9th or 10th team to get double digit negative
It is clear as day that DA is much more competitive. Also, don't give me the response that Crossfire and PDA are in ecnl because as a socal team you will see them maybe, if you are get a good draw, one game a year but will see the local teams much more.

2. "ECNL has more girls scholarships and continues to get more of the college coaches at their events"
DUH. ECNL has been around longer but every year DA gets more and more coaches to come to their events because they are just managed better (more on that later). It will take time until DA reaches the amount of scholarships that ecnl has done. Because they are a new! But for those who think new things can't out last who got there first....ask blockbuster, Toys R us and Radio shack how they feel about Netflix and Amazon.

3. "ECNL allows my kid to play HS soccer"
You should not want to play HS soccer if you are a club player, the competition just isn't as goos, teammates are usualyl not as good and so much risk for injury when you play against players that may only be playing because they want to play a sport. HS soccer is very sloppy and the field conditions usually aren't great. DA has their teams play DA teams that are properly coached and know how to play on proper fields.

4. Safety
DA has rules setup for one game a day, 18 hour rule, can't play 3 games in 3 days. The fact that so many parents aren't in love with a league that wants to protect your kid is mind boggling. They have trainers on site and always has water available. ECNL on the other hand will have your 14-18 year old daughter continue to play in tournaments where they will play 5 games in two days! If their team makes it to the final they will can play 3 games on one Sunday on a full 11v11 field. That increases the chance of injury and puts so much stress on the body, that is not safe.

This argument will change if more clubs switch or go "all in". However, I am hearing rumblings that blues may go "all in" for DA....if they do, I don't think there is any argument that DA is the elite league.

I wish you all the best of luck and hope your DD makes it as far as she can but if you are looking for the best competition and a league that truly wants to develop players and keep them safe, DA is the way to go.

Stop beating around the bush Fred and get to the point.
 
I have done a careful analysis of both leagues. DA is clearly better vs ECNL.

Why?

DA has 2 letters in its abbreviation and ECNL has 4.

Checkmate.
 
i think it's kind of sad that, again, the girls are following the boys. the only reason people think DA is better is because of the boys DA. girls already have a high level league that works. why move? oh ya, because the boys said so.
 
@Fred,
You cannot throw your point #1 thru 4 at everyone's face in your first post and expect a good outcome. Instead of making fun of you like many unhelpful members, I'm going to give you the Barney Stinson step-by-step Playbook on how seasoned posters on this forum achieve what you tried to do.

1. It's best to present this as a discussion from a troubled parent than a single-minded advocate. Many experienced members on this forum genuinely like to help others.
2. You need to have a buddy or a second profile. Let's call your buddy or 2nd profile Barney.
3. The dialogue should go something like this:
Fred: "First post, but long time lurker from the old forum. My kid almost passed out from heat exhaustion in her second game on Sunday in a tournament that included mostly ECNL teams. Two games in a day is just too much on the big field in a summer tourney".
Barney: "Welcome to the forum. One of the reasons my kid moved from ECNL to DA this past year was the concern for safety. You can't play more than one game per day in DA". (Barney gives Fred a "Like" rating while subtly introducing your argument #4".)
Fred: "What makes it worse is that both games were not competitive at all". (Fred gives Barney an "Agree" rating while subtly introducing your argument #1).
Barney: "That's unfortunate. We definitely have seen better competition since moving from ECNL to DA". (Barney gives Fred another "Like" rating)
4. Repeat step 3 to introduce your argument #2 and #3.
5. When discussing point #3 regarding HS, make sure you (a middle-aged man) don't come across as an expert on what 15-year-old girls want.
6. At the end of every post, include a phony line of ".......but I wish the best of luck to the girls that do choose ECNL".

Good luck, and be ..................(wait for it).................LEGENDARY.
 

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ECNL, you had a great run but it is hard for you to argue that you are the "elite" league. I will go through some common comments and topics you will get from ECNL folks. I want to state that ECNL is a good league and can get your daughter some competition and probably a scholarship, but they can not compete with DA. DA is the elite league in SoCal.
1. The competition
If you look at ECNL standings, look closely...at Goal Differential, usually after the 3rd or 4th team the GD goes to double digit negative. blues and slammers beat up on everyone else.
DA, usually is about the 9th or 10th team to get double digit negative
It is clear as day that DA is much more competitive. Also, don't give me the response that Crossfire and PDA are in ecnl because as a socal team you will see them maybe, if you are get a good draw, one game a year but will see the local teams much more.

2. "ECNL has more girls scholarships and continues to get more of the college coaches at their events"
DUH. ECNL has been around longer but every year DA gets more and more coaches to come to their events because they are just managed better (more on that later). It will take time until DA reaches the amount of scholarships that ecnl has done. Because they are a new! But for those who think new things can't out last who got there first....ask blockbuster, Toys R us and Radio shack how they feel about Netflix and Amazon.

3. "ECNL allows my kid to play HS soccer"
You should not want to play HS soccer if you are a club player, the competition just isn't as goos, teammates are usualyl not as good and so much risk for injury when you play against players that may only be playing because they want to play a sport. HS soccer is very sloppy and the field conditions usually aren't great. DA has their teams play DA teams that are properly coached and know how to play on proper fields.

4. Safety
DA has rules setup for one game a day, 18 hour rule, can't play 3 games in 3 days. The fact that so many parents aren't in love with a league that wants to protect your kid is mind boggling. They have trainers on site and always has water available. ECNL on the other hand will have your 14-18 year old daughter continue to play in tournaments where they will play 5 games in two days! If their team makes it to the final they will can play 3 games on one Sunday on a full 11v11 field. That increases the chance of injury and puts so much stress on the body, that is not safe.

This argument will change if more clubs switch or go "all in". However, I am hearing rumblings that blues may go "all in" for DA....if they do, I don't think there is any argument that DA is the elite league.

I wish you all the best of luck and hope your DD makes it as far as she can but if you are looking for the best competition and a league that truly wants to develop players and keep them safe, DA is the way to go.

The GDA Mafia apparently has a new spokesperson. That said, maybe it's a good time to revisit why playing the GDA's no reentry rule is dangerous. What do ya'll think? Should I start re-posting the medical studies that Freddie apparently missed the last time?
 
The GDA Mafia apparently has a new spokesperson. That said, maybe it's a good time to revisit why playing the GDA's no reentry rule is dangerous. What do ya'll think? Should I start re-posting the medical studies that Freddie apparently missed the last time?
Yes please do...since the articles you e posted in the past contradict your statements If you read thru them thoroughly. OH and please make sure you highlight the proof that NO ONE in any other league plays 90 min as well as you viewpoint that HS practicing 5 days a week and playing 3 to 6 games per week is also “healthier” than the GDA format.
 
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