Why do clubs need fundraisers?

MyDaughtersAKeeper said:
If you want to look up your clubs finances: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/
How much they breakdown revenue & expenses varies by club.
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That will get you the IRS 990 forms. To get a better picture, you should look into the club a little harder, in their bylaws or constitution, and how they actually conduct business. Key points - how do they select their Directors? Who is eligible to vote on club business? When was the last independent audit performed? How often do the Directors meet? Are the meetings open to the public? To voting members?

The California Secretary of State supposedly has a lot of this information for non-profits chartered in California.
 
Or, just find a club you and your kids like, that seems to offer a fair price and overall experience for your child's needs, doesn't do fundraisers if you don't like them, etc., and have fun watching them play soccer.

Seems like a better plan for a better life than threatening your kids' club with lawsuits over the language of the "contract", bitching about fundraisers, and just overall always being a stressed-out, confrontational, and all around pain in the a$$.
 
Surfref said:
Are these fundraisers included in the initial contract you signed with the club? If it is not in the contract, than don't pay it. I have a friend who is an attorney and refused to sell raffle tickets for his DD club fundraiser. The club said his DD playing time would be reduced if she did not sell the $200 in raffle tickets. The attorney pointed out to them that their contract specified reasons why playing time could be decreased and that failing to sell raffle tickets was not one of those reasons. The club caved in to the attorney. When the other player's parents found out, they refused to sell the tickets. This trickled down to other teams on the club. The next year the fundraiser was included in the contract with a buyout option.
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Just looked at the player agreement. The golf balls are included in the agreement, but there is nothing else with regard to additional funds needing to be raised.
I'm just hoping someone on the team owns a business they are willing to put up on a teebox and that some of the parents like to play golf and this becomes a non-issue.
 
timbuck said:
If you need more money, just charge us more. Or let kids that need some help paying do some fundraising activities.

My dds club (like many others) has a golf ball drop. This $150 fee is added to our club cost. I guess we are supposed to sell these balls to friends and family. We'll just eat the cost and hope one of our balls wins.
And they also have an annual golf tournament. Each team is "required" to have a foursome (at about $180 per player) and sell a sponsorship package totalling $2,000. And the team needs a "golf tournament" coordinator that is responsible for these things.
I don't enjoy golf much these days. And I spend my work life in sales, so I'm not interested in hustling to find someone to throw $2k at our club so a boys u16 team can fund a travel tournament.

When did these fundraisers become necessary?
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when the club fees went through the roof, started 2 years ago and now it's catching up in a big way...
 
I have an idea - I'll sell a hole sponsorship to a neighboring club. I bet they'd love to get their logo on the 16th tee box. I think they even get to speak at the banquet for 5 minutes with a the top level sponsor. Sure beats having to hound parents on the sidelines after a game.
 
timbuck said:
I don't have an issue with whatever money a DOC or coach makes. My issue is that they should just charge us for whatever they need to in order to function.
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I think you should.

The DOC in my club makes over 200K/yr in salary. It goes well beyond *need*. The golf "fundraiser" is another fleecing of parents to make people on both sides of that deal (golf club, soccer club) more money. I'd imagine the DOC gets a few free rounds in return for doing it at the golf course in question. The golf club rakes in a bunch of fees. The soccer club rakes in a bunch of money.

Then the club can tell prospective parents that the club's annual fee is lower than the actual cost in order to compete with the club down the street for that parent's check.
 
espola said:
That will get you the IRS 990 forms. To get a better picture, you should look into the club a little harder, in their bylaws or constitution, and how they actually conduct business. Key points - how do they select their Directors? Who is eligible to vote on club business? When was the last independent audit performed? How often do the Directors meet? Are the meetings open to the public? To voting members?

The California Secretary of State supposedly has a lot of this information for non-profits chartered in California.
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Thank you!
 
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