Whistleblower

Multi Sport said:
Your ignorance of what fascism is is amusing...

"As a result, fascists aim to use the country's assets to increase the country's strength. This leads to a nationalization of assets, Montague said, and in this, fascism resembles Marxism"

Sounds left leaning to me... what do you think Sunshine?
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Fascism is defined as "right-wing"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Italian Fascism opposed liberalism, but did not seek a reactionary restoration of the pre-French Revolutionary world, which it considered to have been flawed, and not in line with a forward-looking direction on policy.[18] It was opposed to Marxist socialism because of its typical opposition to nationalism,[19] but was also opposed to the reactionary conservatism developed by Joseph de Maistre.[20] It believed the success of Italian nationalism required respect for tradition and a clear sense of a shared past among the Italian people alongside a commitment to a modernized Italy.[21]

From this History Channel:

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/mussolini-founds-the-fascist-party

Excerpt from above link with my emphasis below:

"Benito Mussolini, an Italian World War I veteran and publisher of Socialist newspapers, breaks with the Italian Socialists and establishes the nationalist Fasci di Combattimento, named after the Italian peasant revolutionaries, or “Fighting Bands,” from the 19th century. Commonly known as the Fascist Party, Mussolini’s new right-wing organization advocated Italian nationalism, had black shirts for uniforms, and launched a program of terrorism and intimidation against its leftist opponents."
 
Imtired said:
Fascism is defined as "right-wing"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Italian Fascism opposed liberalism, but did not seek a reactionary restoration of the pre-French Revolutionary world, which it considered to have been flawed, and not in line with a forward-looking direction on policy.[18] It was opposed to Marxist socialism because of its typical opposition to nationalism,[19] but was also opposed to the reactionary conservatism developed by Joseph de Maistre.[20] It believed the success of Italian nationalism required respect for tradition and a clear sense of a shared past among the Italian people alongside a commitment to a modernized Italy.[21]

From this History Channel:

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/mussolini-founds-the-fascist-party

Excerpt from above link with my emphasis below:

"Benito Mussolini, an Italian World War I veteran and publisher of Socialist newspapers, breaks with the Italian Socialists and establishes the nationalist Fasci di Combattimento, named after the Italian peasant revolutionaries, or “Fighting Bands,” from the 19th century. Commonly known as the Fascist Party, Mussolini’s new right-wing organization advocated Italian nationalism, had black shirts for uniforms, and launched a program of terrorism and intimidation against its leftist opponents."
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Seems one of the ignorables is attempting, yet again, to project that which they are guilty upon someone else. It's a childish and obvious ploy (the grown baby t does it all the time, nuf said) that only the truly disingenuous and desperate are foolish enough to try (they have nothing to lose, self-respect and integrity are things they don't care about nor possess).
 
Imtired said:
Fascism is defined as "right-wing"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Italian Fascism opposed liberalism, but did not seek a reactionary restoration of the pre-French Revolutionary world, which it considered to have been flawed, and not in line with a forward-looking direction on policy.[18] It was opposed to Marxist socialism because of its typical opposition to nationalism,[19] but was also opposed to the reactionary conservatism developed by Joseph de Maistre.[20] It believed the success of Italian nationalism required respect for tradition and a clear sense of a shared past among the Italian people alongside a commitment to a modernized Italy.[21]

From this History Channel:

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/mussolini-founds-the-fascist-party

Excerpt from above link with my emphasis below:

"Benito Mussolini, an Italian World War I veteran and publisher of Socialist newspapers, breaks with the Italian Socialists and establishes the nationalist Fasci di Combattimento, named after the Italian peasant revolutionaries, or “Fighting Bands,” from the 19th century. Commonly known as the Fascist Party, Mussolini’s new right-wing organization advocated Italian nationalism, had black shirts for uniforms, and launched a program of terrorism and intimidation against its leftist opponents."
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You might want to expand your knowledge a bit and read my quote I supplied to you. It's anything but right leaning...

1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

. Industrialists were sometimes told what to produce and what price they should charge for the goods that they made

Teachers who were critical of Hitler's Germany were sacked and the rest were sent away to be trained to become good fascists.

Robert Paxton, a professor emeritus of social science at Columbia University in New York who is widely considered the father of fascism studies, defined fascism as "a form of political practice distinctive to the 20th century that arouses popular enthusiasm by sophisticated propaganda techniques for an anti-liberal, anti-socialist, violently exclusionary, expansionist nationalist agenda."

Other definitions, Paxton said, rely too heavily on documents that Mussolini, Hitler and others produced before they came to power. Once in power, fascists did not always keep their early promises. As the American Historical Association put it, speaking of fascism in Italy, "The proclaimed aims and principles of the fascist movement are perhaps of little consequence now. It promised almost everything, from extreme radicalism in 1919 to extreme conservatism in 1922."

Tell me again how this is exclusively right-wing?
Antifa operates solely with violence so they must be fascist and they are extreme left..





 
Hüsker Dü said:
Seems one of the ignorables is attempting, yet again, to project that which they are guilty upon someone else. It's a childish and obvious ploy (the grown baby t does it all the time, nuf said) that only the truly disingenuous and desperate are foolish enough to try (they have nothing to lose, self-respect and integrity are things they don't care about nor possess).
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Set the bottle down. There is still hope for you if you get into rehab now. You'll thank me later.

BTW... I see you reading my post so don't act like you don't. You're just a puss who needs his, or maybe her, safe space... LOL!!
 
Imtired said:
Fascism is defined as "right-wing"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Italian Fascism opposed liberalism, but did not seek a reactionary restoration of the pre-French Revolutionary world, which it considered to have been flawed, and not in line with a forward-looking direction on policy.[18] It was opposed to Marxist socialism because of its typical opposition to nationalism,[19] but was also opposed to the reactionary conservatism developed by Joseph de Maistre.[20] It believed the success of Italian nationalism required respect for tradition and a clear sense of a shared past among the Italian people alongside a commitment to a modernized Italy.[21]

From this History Channel:

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/mussolini-founds-the-fascist-party

Excerpt from above link with my emphasis below:

"Benito Mussolini, an Italian World War I veteran and publisher of Socialist newspapers, breaks with the Italian Socialists and establishes the nationalist Fasci di Combattimento, named after the Italian peasant revolutionaries, or “Fighting Bands,” from the 19th century. Commonly known as the Fascist Party, Mussolini’s new right-wing organization advocated Italian nationalism, had black shirts for uniforms, and launched a program of terrorism and intimidation against its leftist opponents."
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Reflecting here on moral responsibility, I have referred to "we." For it has never occurred to me that the moral responsibility falls much less heavily on those of us on the American left than it fell on Comrade Stalin and those who replicated his feats in one country after another. And I am afraid that some of that moral responsibility falls on the "democratic socialists," "radical democrats," and other leftwingers who endlessly denounced Stalinism but could usually be counted on to support— "critically," of course—the essentials of our political line on world and national affairs.


https://www.dissentmagazine.org/wp-content/files_mf/1353953160genovesethequestion.pdf
 
Imtired said:
Fascism is defined as "right-wing"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Italian Fascism opposed liberalism, but did not seek a reactionary restoration of the pre-French Revolutionary world, which it considered to have been flawed, and not in line with a forward-looking direction on policy.[18] It was opposed to Marxist socialism because of its typical opposition to nationalism,[19] but was also opposed to the reactionary conservatism developed by Joseph de Maistre.[20] It believed the success of Italian nationalism required respect for tradition and a clear sense of a shared past among the Italian people alongside a commitment to a modernized Italy.[21]

From this History Channel:

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/mussolini-founds-the-fascist-party

Excerpt from above link with my emphasis below:

"Benito Mussolini, an Italian World War I veteran and publisher of Socialist newspapers, breaks with the Italian Socialists and establishes the nationalist Fasci di Combattimento, named after the Italian peasant revolutionaries, or “Fighting Bands,” from the 19th century. Commonly known as the Fascist Party, Mussolini’s new right-wing organization advocated Italian nationalism, had black shirts for uniforms, and launched a program of terrorism and intimidation against its leftist opponents."
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Especially amusing has been the spectacle of those who pronounced themselves anti-Stalin- ists and denounced the socialist countries at every turn and yet even today applaud each new revolution, although any damned fool has to know that most of them will end in the same place. For that matter, how could we have survived politically were it not for the countless liberals who, to one extent or another, supported us, apparently under the comforting delusion that we were social reformers in rather too much of a hurry—a delusion we ourselves never suffered from.
There are liberals and liberals, and a distinction would have to be made in a more leisurely presentation. Even in academia there are indeed those who defend liberal principles tenaciously and honorably. But the countless opportunists and careerists who dominate the historical associations call themselves liberals as a matter of political convenience. They went with the McCarthyite flow in the 1950s and go with its left-wing variant today. In the unlikely prospect of a fascist or communist ascendancy tomorrow, they may be counted on to apply for party cards as soon as it looks like the smart move.
 
Looks like " Schiff for Brains " little charade just fell completely apart......

Parody :

Adam Schiff - " We don't need the fake Whistle Blower anymore... "
" We've got enough LIES to go forward and sink ourselves "
 
Multi Sport said:
You might want to expand your knowledge a bit and read my quote I supplied to you. It's anything but right leaning...

1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

. Industrialists were sometimes told what to produce and what price they should charge for the goods that they made

Teachers who were critical of Hitler's Germany were sacked and the rest were sent away to be trained to become good fascists.

Robert Paxton, a professor emeritus of social science at Columbia University in New York who is widely considered the father of fascism studies, defined fascism as "a form of political practice distinctive to the 20th century that arouses popular enthusiasm by sophisticated propaganda techniques for an anti-liberal, anti-socialist, violently exclusionary, expansionist nationalist agenda."

Other definitions, Paxton said, rely too heavily on documents that Mussolini, Hitler and others produced before they came to power. Once in power, fascists did not always keep their early promises. As the American Historical Association put it, speaking of fascism in Italy, "The proclaimed aims and principles of the fascist movement are perhaps of little consequence now. It promised almost everything, from extreme radicalism in 1919 to extreme conservatism in 1922."

Tell me again how this is exclusively right-wing?
Antifa operates solely with violence so they must be fascist and they are extreme left..
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How is "operation solely with violence" akin to a Fascism? That's extremism and there are plenty of examples of that type of behavior on all sides of the political spectrum. I'm merely stating that "Fascism", by definition, is considered an extreme right-wing type of philosophical thinking. Communism is considered an extreme left-wing type of philosophical thinking. Those who scream "Fascist!" when defining the left will often scream "Communist!" in the same breath. It's like saying "You're a right-wing extremist you libtard!". It doesn't make sense.
 
Imtired said:
How is "operation solely with violence" akin to a Fascism? That's extremism and there are plenty of examples of that type of behavior on all sides of the political spectrum. I'm merely stating that "Fascism", by definition, is considered an extreme right-wing type of philosophical thinking. Communism is considered an extreme left-wing type of philosophical thinking. Those who scream "Fascist!" when defining the left will often scream "Communist!" in the same breath. It's like saying "You're a right-wing extremist you libtard!". It doesn't make sense.
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MS posts for effect, not for making sense.
 
Imtired said:
How is "operation solely with violence" akin to a Fascism? That's extremism and there are plenty of examples of that type of behavior on all sides of the political spectrum. I'm merely stating that "Fascism", by definition, is considered an extreme right-wing type of philosophical thinking. Communism is considered an extreme left-wing type of philosophical thinking. Those who scream "Fascist!" when defining the left will often scream "Communist!" in the same breath. It's like saying "You're a right-wing extremist you libtard!". It doesn't make sense.
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So, the facist belief that the state, ie government, should be in charge of major economic and social regimentation (think healthcare) don't fall under todays liberal policies? And yes, antifa operates using not only violence but apply fear tactics and terrorism. These tactics and beliefs are held by those (not all) on the left, correct?
 
Imtired said:
How is "operation solely with violence" akin to a Fascism? That's extremism and there are plenty of examples of that type of behavior on all sides of the political spectrum. I'm merely stating that "Fascism", by definition, is considered an extreme right-wing type of philosophical thinking. Communism is considered an extreme left-wing type of philosophical thinking. Those who scream "Fascist!" when defining the left will often scream "Communist!" in the same breath. It's like saying "You're a right-wing extremist you libtard!". It doesn't make sense.
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Do you think antifa is a commie group?
 
Why would I want to read anything a racist like you post? So now you're in NY to follow some social activist who you know is wrong but you go along with them anyway... like I said, you would have followed Hitler.

Pathetic little loser!
messy said:
Nah, I left Texas. I'm in NYC. No white pride meetings.
But try to educate yourself by reading my link.
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Multi Sport said:
Why would I want to read anything a racist like you post? So now you're in NY to follow some social activist who you know is wrong but you go along with them anyway... like I said, you would have followed Hitler.

Pathetic little loser!
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You wouldn’t want to read about the countries with health care. You’d be embarrassed as you call it fascism.
Stay in your bubble, dummy.
 
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