Where is Andres Deza

jessepinkman said:
From first hand experience I would say I don't agree with the "great coaches" part of this statement. Deza tends to burn through players and coaches at an alarming rate. He wants absolute control and when coaches bring their own ideas it doesn't always work out. I'd also say that he has had two really great teams. His 98s and the 04s which he took over at Force. Beyond that nothing that stands out. Don't get me wrong. He is a great trainer, but also very challenging to deal with. There are lots of solid NorCal clubs and coaches out there and I don't think his brand is as unique as folks want thought.
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We can agree to disagree and that's what's great about this message board. My daughter played for him starting at De Anza and finishing a couple years ago with EQ. Hands down he's the best trainer out there. I've seen many other coaching sessions at various clubs and none can touch the amount of detail that he has in his practices and training sessions. As a result, many of his players are at top schools and yes, they may have found their way to those schools by themselves, but his trainings are second to none and kids get better playing for him. I know my daughter did.

That said, he's not the easiest coach to play for and even less for a parent. Agree his 98 team was probably one of the top teams to come out of Norcal, but his 01's were right there, his 03's and 04's were just as good. I also agree that being in the GDA gave him a pipeline that MVLA, Mustang, Davis and other top clubs didn't have, but all those players (high percentage) were connected to very good soccer schools. Can you name other clubs that have the same brand top to bottom with all the teams playing the same style? I would say that this is unique as it's not apparent at many clubs. ;)
 
HoopsCoach said:
We can agree to disagree and that's what's great about this message board. My daughter played for him starting at De Anza and finishing a couple years ago with EQ. Hands down he's the best trainer out there. I've seen many other coaching sessions at various clubs and none can touch the amount of detail that he has in his practices and training sessions. As a result, many of his players are at top schools and yes, they may have found their way to those schools by themselves, but his trainings are second to none and kids get better playing for him. I know my daughter did.

That said, he's not the easiest coach to play for and even less for a parent. Agree his 98 team was probably one of the top teams to come out of Norcal, but his 01's were right there, his 03's and 04's were just as good. I also agree that being in the GDA gave him a pipeline that MVLA, Mustang, Davis and other top clubs didn't have, but all those players (high percentage) were connected to very good soccer schools. Can you name other clubs that have the same brand top to bottom with all the teams playing the same style? I would say that this is unique as it's not apparent at many clubs. ;)
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PD from Surf days was hands down the best trainer for my dd. Dealing with parents and everything they want, not his strength and I dont hold any grudges now. He was in a very impossiple situation coaching wise. However, when we trained, it was hard core and my dd did very well. We were just chating about how she was in the best shape of her life and we played pass and go all day. You touch and dribble for more than two touches, your butt is on da bench. It was magiacal. Love the name Hoops Coach!!! Both Deza and PD were competitors and each thought their teams were #1. I actually think if GDA never changed the stupid age, the 03/04 Force vs Surf 03/04 would be big time. Add Blues in the mix to get some kickball ((just kidding Blues)) and ganas and we got some great soccer. PD brought possession from Holland and Barcelona to my dd. She said again how grateful she is that PD moved her to the 11 so should would have a left foot. TY coach and I hope all is well :)
 
youthsportsugghhh said:
I would say there are a handful of players in that group from the 04 group and congrats to them for sure. I would also say that the move to DA helped with the National team connection. MVLA didn't have near as many players going to National camps after the DA was formed and ECNL players were somewhat left in the lurch on that move. To each their own and like I said he was not my cup of tea or my daughters
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But MLVA have 5 04 players going to Stanford...... so National Team doesn't really matter at this point.
 
gotothebushes said:
But MLVA have 5 04 players going to Stanford...... so National Team doesn't really matter at this point.
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That wasn't the point of the comment about Quakes (top kids going to UCLA and Stanford as well) and MVLA-- Depends on the kid and the family if the National Team matters or not :) MVLA and Stanford is another ball game with the Stanford Women's coach a coach at the club :)

The thread seems to have gone off topic now for a bit -- Deza was lost, but now has been found and there we go thread done
 
youthsportsugghhh said:
That wasn't the point of the comment about Quakes (top kids going to UCLA and Stanford as well) and MVLA-- Depends on the kid and the family if the National Team matters or not :) MVLA and Stanford is another ball game with the Stanford Women's coach a coach at the club :)

The thread seems to have gone off topic now for a bit -- Deza was lost, but now has been found and there we go thread done
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Well Deza likes to show off his connections, why can’t MVLA do the same with having the Stanford coach on their staff?
 
youthsportsugghhh said:
That wasn't the point of the comment about Quakes (top kids going to UCLA and Stanford as well) and MVLA-- Depends on the kid and the family if the National Team matters or not :) MVLA and Stanford is another ball game with the Stanford Women's coach a coach at the club :)

The thread seems to have gone off topic now for a bit -- Deza was lost, but now has been found and there we go thread done
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Ha, well, at least it is still about Deza. Most threads haven't been staying anywhere near the topic for the past 8 months.
 
HoopsCoach said:
We can agree to disagree and that's what's great about this message board. My daughter played for him starting at De Anza and finishing a couple years ago with EQ. Hands down he's the best trainer out there. I've seen many other coaching sessions at various clubs and none can touch the amount of detail that he has in his practices and training sessions. As a result, many of his players are at top schools and yes, they may have found their way to those schools by themselves, but his trainings are second to none and kids get better playing for him. I know my daughter did.

That said, he's not the easiest coach to play for and even less for a parent. Agree his 98 team was probably one of the top teams to come out of Norcal, but his 01's were right there, his 03's and 04's were just as good. I also agree that being in the GDA gave him a pipeline that MVLA, Mustang, Davis and other top clubs didn't have, but all those players (high percentage) were connected to very good soccer schools. Can you name other clubs that have the same brand top to bottom with all the teams playing the same style? I would say that this is unique as it's not apparent at many clubs. ;)
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Why is “all the teams playing the same style“ a virtue?

Unless you believe that only one style actually counts as real soccer, it seems reasonable that a good coach would adopt different styles for different groups of players.
 
dad4 said:
Why is “all the teams playing the same style“ a virtue?

Unless you believe that only one style actually counts as real soccer, it seems reasonable that a good coach would adopt different styles for different groups of players.
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I"m not sure of that contention....

If you go to any successful national youth program (High school programs for example), they all are running the same things. De La Salle's football program runs the SAME thing from frosh, JV and varsity. Mitty and Pinewood's basketball team does too. I would guess that Andres, who was brought up in the Barcelona style of play, believes that their tactical approach is better than the traditional USA kick and run which constitutes 90-95% of all the programs out there (most colleges play like that too). To be honest, that style of play is long gone and the USNT is moving towards more of a possession balanced system. Not quite to the extend of Barcelona, but it's getting there slowly. If you look at all of the top clubs in Europe, they're all running the same things (youth teams to top team).

The strength (and i'm only talking about the tactical and technical side of this-not him or his personality) of this system is based on building the kids technical skills coupled with an understanding of making great runs (vertical and diagonal) and passing in tight spaces. The Barcelona girls youth team came last year to compete in a tournament and smashed teams like PDA (Finals), LAFC, Nevada, and one more I can't remember. Here's a link to the game so you can see for yourself.

To your point, there are many ways to skin a cat. I guess it's personal preference of the kids if they like this system or another.

Barcelona Girls vs. PDA
 
dad4 said:
Why is “all the teams playing the same style“ a virtue?

Unless you believe that only one style actually counts as real soccer, it seems reasonable that a good coach would adopt different styles for different groups of players.
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I’d say his commitment to the “Barcelona” style drives the training that attracts many of his players. The training focuses on providing as many quality touches as possible, and if you don’t learn to be comfortable with the ball at your feet while under pressure, you’ll have trouble getting on the pitch. This tends to weed out players that another coach might find a way to use. In my mind, the benefit to the girls is that they will develop a higher level of skill than they would under some of the more conventional training programs. This will serve the girls well in the future regardless of the style they play.

I have heard some say his commitment to the style means he doesn’t care that much about winning. He cares about winning, but he cares more about the girls playing with skill.
 
Any word on DEZA? He's been gone for over 8 months now. I'm sure parents are upset having paid those fees with him not even being there. His daughter signed in Spain so maybe he's stuck over there?
 
310soccer said:
Any word on DEZA? He's been gone for over 8 months now. I'm sure parents are upset having paid those fees with him not even being there. His daughter signed in Spain so maybe he's stuck over there?
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I am not from the area (anymore), but the latest I heard was that he holds Zoom meetings periodically with parents. Promoting his college placements and talking about his “national platform” aka GA League. Also emphasizing ECNL is not alone in elite national competition. I guess that’s enough to keep charging top dollar and keep the parents happy. I also heard, from some players that asked for their release, that they are not US Club or NorCal affiliated. Good luck to those parents and players.
 
310soccer said:
OK? Thats just a photo on there website? You can post that photo at there practices if you want but parents are saying he hasn't been out there since April/2020. Nice picture though! What's the scoop?
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Some parents within the club believe Deza's name was used to keep their players after Earthquakes no longer supported a girls side. He hasn't showed up to 1 training after FC Bay Area was established. They must have one of the highest turnover of coaches in the area, as well. All their good ones have left. I just heard yesterday that Natalia Astrain, one of the main trainers and highly qualified coaches, has also left. She was the head coach for the Barcelona Women's Team (Spain), and she brought a lot of excitement and hope to the club. If that is true, that should raise a lot of questions for those parents that still believe in this club. To each their own, we all get what we deserve. Good luck to everybody.
 
SoCal Soccer Mom said:
Some parents within the club believe Deza's name was used to keep their players after Earthquakes no longer supported a girls side. He hasn't showed up to 1 training after FC Bay Area was established. They must have one of the highest turnover of coaches in the area, as well. All their good ones have left. I just heard yesterday that Natalia Astrain, one of the main trainers and highly qualified coaches, has also left. She was the head coach for the Barcelona Women's Team (Spain), and she brought a lot of excitement and hope to the club. If that is true, that should raise a lot of questions for those parents that still believe in this club. To each their own, we all get what we deserve. Good luck to everybody.
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Interesting! Pretty sad but at least all of there 04's are committed I'm hearing. So they use his name, collect fees, don't get GAL and then he doesn't show up to trainings? If all of there coaches are leaving who's left to train them? He's known for not being able to get along with staff and maybe its best for him to go back down to U10 and built a new power house team. Wish the teams under the 04's best of luck in finding a new home.
 
310soccer said:
Interesting! Pretty sad but at least all of there 04's are committed I'm hearing. So they use his name, collect fees, don't get GAL and then he doesn't show up to trainings? If all of there coaches are leaving who's left to train them? He's known for not being able to get along with staff and maybe its best for him to go back down to U10 and built a new power house team. Wish the teams under the 04's best of luck in finding a new home.
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They are part of the GA League. They are NOT an affiliate of NorCal Premier or US Club. Meaning that any player that wants to leave doesn't need a release, since there is nothing to be released from. I would assume they are registering players through CalNorth USYS affiliate, considering that will be the sanctioning body for the GA League. But no connection to ECNL or local NorCal league which means players are not tied to the club.
 
SoCal Soccer Mom said:
Some parents within the club believe Deza's name was used to keep their players after Earthquakes no longer supported a girls side. He hasn't showed up to 1 training after FC Bay Area was established. They must have one of the highest turnover of coaches in the area, as well. All their good ones have left. I just heard yesterday that Natalia Astrain, one of the main trainers and highly qualified coaches, has also left. She was the head coach for the Barcelona Women's Team (Spain), and she brought a lot of excitement and hope to the club. If that is true, that should raise a lot of questions for those parents that still believe in this club. To each their own, we all get what we deserve. Good luck to everybody.
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That's unfortunate. Looks like she's only been there 4/5 months. That's 2 female coaches leaving within 1 years time. We need more women coaches in the sport so hopefully they'll find better opportunities to coach.
 
310soccer said:
That's unfortunate. Looks like she's only been there 4/5 months. That's 2 female coaches leaving within 1 years time. We need more women coaches in the sport so hopefully they'll find better opportunities to coach.
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What are you talking about? They are both still coaching and did find better opportunities. What is unfortunate about career growth for women?

Natalia left to become an Assistant Coach for the NWSL team in KC.
www.thebluetestament.com

KC NWSL announces staff for inaugural season

Huw Williams has selected his staff
www.thebluetestament.com www.thebluetestament.com

Erin left to become the first female coach in the MLS Academy.

Is someone talking out of their ... lack of knowledge? ;)
 
kickingandscreaming said:
What are you talking about? They are both still coaching and did find better opportunities. What is unfortunate about career growth for women?

Natalia left to become an Assistant Coach for the NWSL team in KC.
www.thebluetestament.com

KC NWSL announces staff for inaugural season

Huw Williams has selected his staff
www.thebluetestament.com www.thebluetestament.com

Erin left to become the first female coach in the MLS Academy.

Is someone talking out of their ... lack of knowledge? ;)
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I'm talking about how MOST coaches never stay with Deza because he's hard to get along with and leave... That's great news and glad they've found great opportunities to continue their success. We need more women coaches in the soccer area and I wish them both the best. Thanks for the knowledge!;)
 
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