What's happening here?

dawson said:
first - I believe youth soccer should be free to play.
Second - ECNL is under US Club Soccer which has stated that all their members must comply with all state and local mandates and restrictions. If Newsom was to ban out of state competition, I imagine that US Club Soccer would take some action.

If they did I have no insight as to what US Cub action might be . Perhaps someone else has a feel for that .

As far as a quarantine goes I think it would be enforced like many unpopular laws ( not conceding that his mandates are laws ) by making an example of a few to put fear into the majority.
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For norcal, I am more concerned that, every time a county reaches orange, restaurants open and cases shoot back up.

Santa Clara just opened restaurants, and the last two days of cases are already awful. Might be just volatility, but we may be headed straight back to red.
 
dad4 said:
As long as I can legally go to Vegas or Phoenix, how do you propose to have California laws restrict my activities there?

If one state had the power to restrict recreational activities in another state, Vegas and Atlantic City would not even exist.

You can force me to quarantine when I return. I was going to do that anyway.
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100% correct but “the people” could go after the “team” that’s a legal business in California.
 
MacDre said:
100% correct but “the people” could go after the “team” that’s a legal business in California.
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Certainly. Which is why we'll be going as "Sheep FC", which will exist only in Nevada and Arizona.

Seriously, if the state doesnt have the balls to close restaurants, bars, and casinos, why should I respect their requests on lower risk activities?
 
dad4 said:
Certainly. Which is why we'll be going as "Sheep FC", which will exist only in Nevada and Arizona.

Seriously, if the state doesnt have the balls to close restaurants, bars, and casinos, why should I respect their requests on lower risk activities?
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The American Way! If you can’t get exactly what you want, f**k all, who cares who dies because of it.
 
EOTL said:
The American Way! If you can’t get exactly what you want, f**k all, who cares who dies because of it.
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If you want fewer people to die from covid, there are better policy targets than youth soccer games.

Maybe read the science and focus on indoor unmasked activities?

Or is EOTL now anti-science?
 
dad4 said:
If you want fewer people to die from covid, there are better policy targets than youth soccer games.

Maybe read the science and focus on indoor unmasked activities?

Or is EOTL now anti-science?
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Yes, we should always limit the activities that you don’t care about. As if staying in a hotel isn’t an indoor activity. As if carpooling to another state isn’t an indoor activity.
dad4 said:
If you want fewer people to die from covid, there are better policy targets than youth soccer games.

Maybe read the science and focus on indoor unmasked activities?

Or is EOTL now anti-science?
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Like I said, the American Way. Tell everyone else to do what they should so you don’t need to. Because what you esnt is mote important than what they want.

So how many times exactly do you and all the other families go inside on their little trip to AZ? A couple bathroom stops at Starbucks on the way? 4-5 times a day in and out of the hotel? The bathroom at the field? Out for some dinner? How many carpooled anyway?

Maybe you brought your porta-potty for the fam, stayed in a tent and only got food from the Mickey D’s drive through, but that makes you the only one. Or you’re just another selfish American who expects everyone else to do their part.

When will one of you just admit that you’re ok killing people so you can live vicariously through your daughter.
 
dawson said:
I suspect he will specifically ban teams from going out of state to play tournaments,
Even though the letter is short it goes out of its way to mention this subject.
If it does happen ECNL teams it seems would be most impacted.
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The self pity is strong in this one.
 
EOTL said:
Yes, we should always limit the activities that you don’t care about. As if staying in a hotel isn’t an indoor activity. As if carpooling to another state isn’t an indoor activity.


Like I said, the American Way. Tell everyone else to do what they should so you don’t need to. Because what you esnt is mote important than what they want.

So how many times exactly do you and all the other families go inside on their little trip to AZ? A couple bathroom stops at Starbucks on the way? 4-5 times a day in and out of the hotel? The bathroom at the field? Out for some dinner? How many carpooled anyway?

Maybe you brought your porta-potty for the fam, stayed in a tent and only got food from the Mickey D’s drive through, but that makes you the only one. Or you’re just another selfish American who expects everyone else to do their part.

When will one of you just admit that you’re ok killing people so you can live vicariously through your daughter.
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That’s just the thing. I do believe in doing my part. I skipped my niece’s wedding. My card game group went online. I shop less than once a week. I no longer have meals with people outside my immediate household. I no longer meet anyone indoors. When I do see a friend, it is outdoors with masks.

And, I’m taking my kid to a soccer tournament. We will eat takeout and quarantine when we get back, but it isn‘t zero risk.

I won’t even ask you if it makes sense to you. It probably doesn’t.
 
In our area, adults have been playing unorganized full contact pick up soccer right next to youth teams' distance practice for three months, everywhere.
My point is that we don't see any COVID rate jumping up in our community for a while, even adults playing unorganized full contact pickup everywhere for three month!
Now, our club starts voting if parents are comfortable sending their kids to out of state to play. Why do we need to go out of state even though unorganized adults can play in our local field? They could be illegal, but my point is not there. I saw even police didn't stop them because the police might consider it was outdoor gathering within 20 people, and categorize "low risk activity". But once youth team starts a little less distance practice (for example, allowing defenders to press, but not tackle.), someone calls the club, and the coach is warned. I just feel something wrong. Why there is so much restriction on organized youth sports only, even police allowing (or not paying attentions) adults to play, and eventually, kids need to go out of state to just play?
 
Timan said:
In our area, adults have been playing unorganized full contact pick up soccer right next to youth teams' distance practice for three months, everywhere.
My point is that we don't see any COVID rate jumping up in our community for a while, even adults playing unorganized full contact pickup everywhere for three month!
Now, our club starts voting if parents are comfortable sending their kids to out of state to play. Why do we need to go out of state even though unorganized adults can play in our local field? They could be illegal, but my point is not there. I saw even police didn't stop them because the police might consider it was outdoor gathering within 20 people, and categorize "low risk activity". But once youth team starts a little less distance practice (for example, allowing defenders to press, but not tackle.), someone calls the club, and the coach is warned. I just feel something wrong. Why there is so much restriction on organized youth sports only, even police allowing (or not paying attentions) adults to play, and eventually, kids need to go out of state to just play?
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The park rangers enforce the fields and their instruction is to break up ANY play where referees are being used. I've seen it happen 6 times at 4 different parks in Sacramento. Each time they were called by club coaches or park employees.
 
I'm hearing tomorrow or Tuesday Newsome is basically announcing no real changes to youth sports. If this happens, I think our kids are screwed at least until spring and it wouldn't shock me if it's until summer/vaccines may be available. Poor kids and coaches in CA. Would kill HS sports I think for whole year as well.
 
soccer4us said:
I'm hearing tomorrow or Tuesday Newsome is basically announcing no real changes to youth sports. If this happens, I think our kids are screwed at least until spring and it wouldn't shock me if it's until summer/vaccines may be available. Poor kids and coaches in CA. Would kill HS sports I think for whole year as well.
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Plump jack needs a new glass. His is still bogged down by 2 Buck Chuck.
 
How are the Bay Area clubs dealing with the recommendation to quarantine for 2 weeks after returning from travel out of the area by the Bay Area Counties? I would guess they are already committed for Phoenix but will be under pressure to quarantine upon return by the County Health Departments. Is there any talk of the Sacramento area counties recommending the same thing?
 
ITFC Blues said:
How are the Bay Area clubs dealing with the recommendation to quarantine for 2 weeks after returning from travel out of the area by the Bay Area Counties? I would guess they are already committed for Phoenix but will be under pressure to quarantine upon return by the County Health Departments. Is there any talk of the Sacramento area counties recommending the same thing?
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Link? I did not know anyone but SF had recommended quarantine.
 
ITFC Blues said:
How are the Bay Area clubs dealing with the recommendation to quarantine for 2 weeks after returning from travel out of the area by the Bay Area Counties? I would guess they are already committed for Phoenix but will be under pressure to quarantine upon return by the County Health Departments. Is there any talk of the Sacramento area counties recommending the same thing?
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Yolo County recommend but did not require 2 week quarantine after travel. Davis Legacy chose to implement it, so our girls will be away from the complex for 2 weeks doing film review via zoom and virtual training post travel.
 
From the article with a link at the bottom.

If you plan to travel over the holidays this year amid the coronavirus pandemic, health officers from 10 counties and one city in the greater Bay Area are recommending that you self-quarantine for 14 days when you return home.


Marin, Alameda, Contra Costa, Monterey, Napa, San Mateo, San Francisco, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz and Sonoma, as well as the city of Berkeley, issued a joint recommendation Monday advising against nonessential travel, including holiday trips, that could increase chances of infection and potentially spread the virus.

www.sfgate.com

Bay Area recommends 2-week quarantine for holiday travelers

Health officers are also recommending testing before and after travel.
www.sfgate.com www.sfgate.com
 
ITFC Blues said:
How are the Bay Area clubs dealing with the recommendation to quarantine for 2 weeks after returning from travel out of the area by the Bay Area Counties? I would guess they are already committed for Phoenix but will be under pressure to quarantine upon return by the County Health Departments. Is there any talk of the Sacramento area counties recommending the same thing?
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From what I've gathered, the NorCal teams that attended all have their own return-to-play protocols. These range from one or two week stay-away rules and/or proof of a negative Covid test.
 
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