What is the end goal?

Aspire to dream of what can be. However reality will set in once your DD shows the quality of player they want to be and actually show it.
So I made it simple. Enjoy watching your DD play a great sport and hope to make their youth career as enjoyable as possible. If your DD can get a soccer scholarship and continue to play, great. If they can continue to walk on and play while simultaneously getting a career which I hope they love. Then, what better way to move forward. The elite players who love the sport will and may continue to play at the higher levels and highest levels. To the majority , the conditioning and benefits of training, friendships, attitude and experience and memories, build the foundation for the person to be the best they can be. The end game is the path that makes them the best person they can be.
 
Multi Sport said:
What is it about athletes and real estate? My brother-in-law (former NFL) is doing great in real estate and my nephew (former pro soccer) is also crushing it. I know of two other former NFL players that are in real estate and are doing well too. Is it the competition and the challenge?
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Multi Sport said:
What is it about athletes and real estate? My brother-in-law (former NFL) is doing great in real estate and my nephew (former pro soccer) is also crushing it. I know of two other former NFL players that are in real estate and are doing well too. Is it the competition and the challenge?
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It is absolutely the competition and the challenge. The only other outlet I have is coaching, which I do for both baseball and football. Real estate helps fills the void that never really goes away.
 
ferbert said:
MLS career is too short and risky, player plays at the most 10 years and then they will have to start again somewhere else.
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Thanks for sharing the experience. I came across this article. Median pay for MLS is only $90k with an average career of 2.5 years; which means an MLS player can roughly make a lifetime earning of $90k + 90k + 45k = $225k; not much at all and not enough to afford a home in southern california. What is there left for non-MLS players?

https://www.americansocceranalysis.com/home/2015/1/26/visualizingmlssalaries

With DA practices taking up to 4 days a week, many players are missing out other "academic" curricular activities like Science Olympiad etc. etc that could help groom them into a real career. Are you making difficult trade offs like these?
 
blam said:
Thanks for sharing the experience. I came across this article. Median pay for MLS is only $90k with an average career of 2.5 years; which means an MLS player can roughly make a lifetime earning of $90k + 90k + 45k = $225k; not much at all and not enough to afford a home in southern california.
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Much less then that once you pay your agent and taxes. Keep in mind that athletes pay state taxes in every state that they play in providing the state has a tax.
 
I've said it before - Players at the bottom end of the scale are better off coaching 3-4 teams of 12 year olds. With private training - they'll make more money.

And certainly on the womens side. Good friend of ours played at UCLA. Got a few senior team call ups. Was in the womens league prior to the NWSL. She makes way more money doing privates than the $18k per year she got playing "professional womens soccer."
 
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blam said:
With DA practices taking up to 4 days a week, many players are missing out other "academic" curricular activities like Science Olympiad etc. etc that could help groom them into a real career. Are you making difficult trade offs like these?
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No!
 
I think most secretly hope their child gets the opportunity to play at the college level and maybe secretly many parents with sons hope to see their son play in the pros. I have had those day dreams. Why lie about it. It would be so cool to watch my child live his dream and passion. Reality is that it may not happen and that is not why I drive to trainings and tournaments. If he gets the opportunity to play in college at any D1 thru JC it will be a blessing and it will give me an opportunity to do what I love which is watching him play with joy.
 
blam said:
Thanks for sharing the experience. I came across this article. Median pay for MLS is only $90k with an average career of 2.5 years; which means an MLS player can roughly make a lifetime earning of $90k + 90k + 45k = $225k; not much at all and not enough to afford a home in southern california. What is there left for non-MLS players?

https://www.americansocceranalysis.com/home/2015/1/26/visualizingmlssalaries

With DA practices taking up to 4 days a week, many players are missing out other "academic" curricular activities like Science Olympiad etc. etc that could help groom them into a real career. Are you making difficult trade offs like these?
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You can earn a degree and take classes anytime any where these days which makes changing careers VERY easy. Why not chase the dream even if its for 3 years? Lifes too short and the daily grind of any job will eventually catch up so why not enjoy life playing a sport while you can.

So you begin the rat race at 30 instead of 25.......what have you really lost out on again?
 
I went straight to my 12 year old female horse and asked her what her end game is. At first her answer was to get on an ECNL team or a DA team by age 14. Then I said, what about longer term and she said....to make it to at least second Keeper for the USWNT or Russian team (She was born in Russia) or to play in college. I then asked her what would happen if none of that happened would she be bummed that she sacrificed so much time and dealt with so much drama and she said...I know it is a small chance but why not go for it! There you have it...my 12 year old horse has spoken. I interrupted a Fortnight game for these answers so I am shocked I got them at all.
 
Chalklines said:
So you begin the rat race at 30 instead of 25.......what have you really lost out on again?
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Its trade off between academics and soccer. If one does well enough to get into Harvard for example, the annual cost is only $5000 if income is below $60k. Its pretty much a scholarship also.
 
Even if you don't like soccer, what I'm suggesting here is that you should choose FSU because of soccer superiority.
 
Woodwork said:
Even if you don't like soccer, what I'm suggesting here is that you should choose FSU because of soccer superiority.
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This thread is on the end goal. Less than 5% of all applicants get in to Harvard. Go to Harvard (get a top shelf education) and play soccer any day over FSU and their tentative superiority.
 
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LASTMAN14 said:
This thread is on the end goal. Less than 5% of all applicants get in to Harvard. Go to Harvard (get a top shelf education) and play soccer any day over FSU and their tentative superiority.
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Harvard arguably isn't even the top academic school, especially once you take into account specific majors. Whereas FSU is the top soccer school. I don't know how this is even close. Are you trolling me? Because I feel like one of us is trolling, and if it isn't you then it must be me.
 
Woodwork said:
Harvard arguably isn't even the top academic school, especially once you take into account specific majors. Whereas FSU is the top soccer school. I don't know how this is even close. Are you trolling me? Because I feel like one of us is trolling, and if it isn't you then it must be me.
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Ha! I don’t troll. I just respond and debate. Though I will disagree with you on the same arguments about FSU. To say Harvard isn’t one of the best. Is like saying a Rolls Royce’s quality and performance is just like an Infiniti. However, it’s the individual who makes the difference in what they do with their degree from FSU, Harvard or any other institution.
 
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End game was for my kids to learn the benefits of being part of a team and set the stage for a heathy, athletic life. For me it was to enjoy seeing them play and the time I got to spend with them. Everything else is just icing.
 
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