Am I in the Twilight Zone? Seriously, did you just ignore what I said in my posts? I couldn't have been more clear that policies should have been developed to protect the vulnerable (and not blanket policies) based upon who was at risk which is/was/ abundantly clear based on the data that was clearly disclosed by the CDC. When the CDC says that 95% of the population that died has these characteristics don't you think our focus should be developing policies that directly protect them, as opposed to treating everyone with the same generic policy and causing unnecessary consequences to those not at risk while killing those at risk. That's insanity.
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Watty, keep in mine that some Docs and Govs like Dad and Espola in NY used the elderly that were going to die soon because of serious underlying issues and old age. It's called, "speed up death" process to cause fear among the healthy and those who were sleeping spiritually. The place my mom was at before she passed away with 4+ major health issues as well at age 9,0 said they had lots of Covid deaths at Hospice Care. Total BS!! When dad says 1,000,000 died, he is misleading us all. He's not a dumb dumb and is acting like Espola and GG at the same time. He knows that they counted gun shot victims, car accident trauma victims, stab victims and all victims that were about to die from other underlying reasons like Stroke and Cancer as Covid deaths. Why? Triple Pay Bonus Baby!!!! ((TPBB)). I know some rich lib docs who took advantage of this scam and made off like the bandits that they are. My pals wife is ranking it in with big Pharma and record breaking Blood Thinner sales in 2022 and she feels justified by her big haul the last two years. Yay, I'm so happy for her. He did loans and is now looking for work so he feels the heat because they have to pay 50/50 to keep their $2 million house. News The fact dad still sits here and has debates with Grace & Hound makes me wonder what this Dad stands for. He comes across as a nice daddy but then goes Grandpa Espola quickly.
Yes, it's the Twilight Projection Zone. It's a freaking trip to be here at this time on the planet. I find it an honor to serve with you watty. We got this brother
No. I'm making a post-vaccine, 2022 IFR point to argue that the 2020 policies of the Chinese government are laughable (and if you concede along the way that masks don't make sense in 2022 given the omicron transmission, so much the better).
We did not have any technology or policy capable of doing what you ask.
We had the ability to reduce transmission by about 60-80%. That's all. We didn't have a 99% effective barrier available in the quantities of we needed.
Wrapping the vulnerable in an 80% effective cocoon doesn't work. It only means that it takes five weeks instead of one week to get it.
Summary of a long COVID study. Short interpretation, some markers but biggest correlation seems to be anxiety and depression, with some caveats such as the small nature of the study (which would miss rare conditions) and that serious COVID cases were excluded.
At least Joe is being honest for once. This is all part of the transition. They said you will own nothing and be happy.
"Here’s the situation. And when it comes to the gas prices, we’re going through an incredible transition that is taking place that, God willing, when it’s over, we’ll be stronger and the world will be stronger and less reliant on fossil fuels when this is over," Biden said, plus he also said this
"And what I’ve been able to do to keep it from getting even worse — and it’s bad. The price of gas at the pump is something that I told you — you heard me say before — it would be a matter of great discussion at my kitchen table when I was a kid growing up. It’s affecting a lot of families,"
"Here’s the situation. And when it comes to the gas prices, we’re going through an incredible transition that is taking place that, God willing, when it’s over, we’ll be stronger and the world will be stronger and less reliant on fossil fuels when this is over," Biden said, plus he also said this
"And what I’ve been able to do to keep it from getting even worse — and it’s bad. The price of gas at the pump is something that I told you — you heard me say before — it would be a matter of great discussion at my kitchen table when I was a kid growing up. It’s affecting a lot of families,"
What the what? Have I confused you?
CDC uses the term WITH not OF….yet you conflate my correcting you on that to an argument about overcounting deaths.
What point are you trying to make? I thought you were trying to argue that covid did not actually kill approximately 1 million Americans.
Are you actually a stickler for grammar, and seriously bothered by the distinction between “of“ and “with“?
If so, I apologize. Bad grammar should never rear it’s ugly head.
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That’s as logical as the “well, he had a record and tested positive for an illegal substance so the cop was within his right’s to shoot him . . . even though he wasn’t being a threat.” defense for cold blooded murder.
It’s not just grammar….they have different meanings. I wonder why the CDC would use one not the other. Maybe they realize that Covid contributed to their death (significantly or insignificantly) but they are unable to determine that it was the only cause.
My pal lives up in Kirkland and has to make this drive every week. He is as liberal as they come but even he thinks this is getting out of hand. I asked him kindly what he thinks the reason is and he thinks it's because of drug abuse and mental illness. My super rich conservative pal in South OC thinks it's because of choice and nothing else. I drove through LA and people are living on the side of the freeway.
Ok. The words have different meanings. So what?
Neither word covers the actual science. You are quibbling over which dumbed down version is appropriate for public consumption.
The general pont is still that covid killed about 1M Americans. This is backed up by statistical models of expected deaths in the US. Fred Smith’s diabetes may have been incredibly important for Fred, but it is irrelevant for evaluating the overall impact of covid in the US.
I see you posted this at 3:15 AM...
I'd like to believe that this was part & parcel to the nonsense you've posted above...
Given your history, you have once again posted and removed all doubt.
Atta boy Daffy
And that’s where we disagree…you think statistical models are the end all be all but in reality they are only as good as the data entered. In your world, it’s either A or B, when in reality there is C, D, F and so on which are not taken into account because these other categories were stuffed into A or B and the language used to categorize was ambiguous (“with” not “of”) which you choose to ignore.
My wife and I used to always use words like, "Always" "Never" early on in our stupid arguments and little bumps. I remember her saying, "You always leave the potty seat down." "That is not true" I would say and I called her out for her lies. I would say things like, "You never ___________________________ and it would be nice if you would ____________________ and not just me all the time." She would call me out for saying "never" is not true babe because it was more like, "I usually want to have _______________________ more often then her but she is still down, just not like me all the time
25 years and now e get it....lol!!! Died "of" Covid and "with" Covid is not the same dad. Again, let me and Hound remind you of the facts early on in this scam. Dude is riding his Harley on the 10 Frwy in AZ is all fired up to ride. However, a drunk driver came from the side view and knocked him off his bike. He rolled on the pavement going 90 MPH. After his body came to a stop, he had severe brain trauma. Blood coming out of his nose and ears. They rushed him to ER and tried for hours to keep him alive long enough to get a test for the Rona and the TPBB!!! Dude comes back positive for Covid and he is now one in a million covid deaths. This also happened to the 89 year old man sitting at home enjoying life and watching TV with his wife. The wife looks over at hubby and see's that he fell out of his recliner, "Hal, are you ok?" No response from Hal and he's rushed to ER and is brain dead long enough for that test and the TPBB!!!! Hal takes the test and comes back positive. Hal is now all alone and his wife and kids are not allowed to see Hal one last time and say goodbye, all because of the TPBB!!! Wow, wow and more wow. Not a cool way to make a buck Dad
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Those I know of getting the Covid currently have been getting painfully ill. Cases up 40 %.Cowards
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