USWNT

MakeAPlay said:
Rose LaVelle was a YNT player. She was on the 2014 U20 WWC team and was on the U18 WNT prior to that. I understand your point though.
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was unsure if she'd been in the ynts before
 
bruinblue14 said:
Can't remember which age it was, but at the YNT vs Japan games at Stub Hub a few months ago, it was clear that height wasn't much of an advantage. The Japanese players were super tiny and quick in comparison to the US players. And the way they moved the ball.... phew, made it look like our girls are light years behind.
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It was the under 20's. Went to that game. Japan was clearly the more tactical and technical team. And, displayed a great deal of creativity. Our ladies lumbered around with one idea go forward over the top or on occasion tried a through ball.
 
LASTMAN14 said:
I concur. Coaching is everything. And a coach willing to not chose players that fit a single mold.
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Imagine what would happen if we got a Spanish coach and all of a sudden we with our vast resources started producing results. What would that do to the establishment? And would that be exporting American jobs or making America great again?

It's such a conundrum. Or is it????
 
MakeAPlay said:
Imagine what would happen if we got a Spanish coach and all of a sudden we with our vast resources started producing results. What would that do to the establishment? And would that be exporting American jobs or making America great again?

It's such a conundrum. Or is it????
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Great questions for thought. Think the establishment would have to make an uncomfortable change. At least for them. I would hope US Soccer and American coaches would embrace this change and build from it by making it their own. It could help shape and establish a style of play that we have yet to call our own. I think it is a condrum because will anything really happen to take US Soccer forward in a way we all want it to go.
 
https://farpostfooty.com/2014/06/06/the-cost-of-development-tom-byers-effect/

Here's an article about what Japan has done for about a couple of decades to develop a bumper crop of talented players. They have clearly broken through on the women's side and IMO it's pretty obvious the US women's team has to adopt a similar approach or face getting outskilled and outmaneuvered on the pitch because we lack ball mastery in tight spaces.

Japan has not broken through on the men's side but again IMO, they are playing a more attractive and skilled brand of soccer, and they are closer to catching up with the European and South American powers than we are.
 
JJP said:
https://farpostfooty.com/2014/06/06/the-cost-of-development-tom-byers-effect/

Here's an article about what Japan has done for about a couple of decades to develop a bumper crop of talented players. They have clearly broken through on the women's side and IMO it's pretty obvious the US women's team has to adopt a similar approach or face getting outskilled and outmaneuvered on the pitch because we lack ball mastery in tight spaces.

Japan has not broken through on the men's side but again IMO, they are playing a more attractive and skilled brand of soccer, and they are closer to catching up with the European and South American powers than we are.
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Good article. Enjoyed it. Makes you think why we can't get it right when so many do.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Imagine what would happen if we got a Spanish coach and all of a sudden we with our vast resources started producing results. What would that do to the establishment? And would that be exporting American jobs or making America great again?

It's such a conundrum. Or is it????
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That would depend on if the coach was legal or not.
 
Thanks Outside...just wondering if the final score reflected the match play...Looking at the stats it seems as though Japan had twice as many shots (10 for J vs 5 for USA) , almost twice as many corner kicks (7 for J 4 for USA), fewer fouls( 0 for J and 9 for USA), and fewer saves ( 3 saves for J compared to 5 saves for USA)...
 
Sheriff Joe said:
That would depend on if the coach was legal or not.
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Would it? A job lost to a non-citizen is a job lost to a non-citizen whether they are legal or not. Without foreign workers our economy wouldn't be anywhere near where it is today. If it wasn't for immigration our President wouldn't have two of his three wives. It's all good though. Until we do something different on the Women's side we will continue to be passed by other countries. We really don't want China and India to pass us because that will signal the end of the dominance of the western world in sports....
 
MakeAPlay said:
Would it? A job lost to a non-citizen is a job lost to a non-citizen whether they are legal or not. Without foreign workers our economy wouldn't be anywhere near where it is today. If it wasn't for immigration our President wouldn't have two of his three wives. It's all good though. Until we do something different on the Women's side we will continue to be passed by other countries. We really don't want China and India to pass us because that will signal the end of the dominance of the western world in sports....
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Where do you think the USWNT stands right now?
 
Sheriff Joe said:
Where do you think the USWNT stands right now?
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The current US staff has never played technical, possession oriented soccer during their playing days. They have no appreciation or cultural identity for it. The asian countries did not either so they went out and got it. In the next 4-8 years the French and Spanish will catch and pass everyone. They will be more athletic and have a history of the technical game. They are just playing catch up do to a more cultural thing. If the US wants to get back in the game they need a clean slate, get the right coaches and it will take 8-12 years for the foundation to be corrected.
 
pulguita said:
The current US staff has never played technical, possession oriented soccer during their playing days. They have no appreciation or cultural identity for it. The asian countries did not either so they went out and got it. In the next 4-8 years the French and Spanish will catch and pass everyone. They will be more athletic and have a history of the technical game. They are just playing catch up do to a more cultural thing. If the US wants to get back in the game they need a clean slate, get the right coaches and it will take 8-12 years for the foundation to be corrected.
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Agree with every word you say. They have to get rid of bigger + faster + kickball and start with technical possession soccer from u8 and below and rebuild from the ground up. At this point, IMO, the writing is already on the wall. We have already been passed by at the younger age groups and it's only a matter of time before the senior NT starts seeing the same results.
 
JJP said:
Agree with every word you say. They have to get rid of bigger + faster + kickball and start with technical possession soccer from u8 and below and rebuild from the ground up. At this point, IMO, the writing is already on the wall. We have already been passed by at the younger age groups and it's only a matter of time before the senior NT starts seeing the same results.
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The way to win games is to score more goals than your opponent. Let's not get too fussy about how it is done.
 
pulguita said:
The current US staff has never played technical, possession oriented soccer during their playing days. They have no appreciation or cultural identity for it. The asian countries did not either so they went out and got it. In the next 4-8 years the French and Spanish will catch and pass everyone. They will be more athletic and have a history of the technical game. They are just playing catch up do to a more cultural thing. If the US wants to get back in the game they need a clean slate, get the right coaches and it will take 8-12 years for the foundation to be corrected.
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Both French national teams are so fun to watch! A great blend of technique and athleticism.
 
espola said:
The way to win games is to score more goals than your opponent. Let's not get too fussy about how it is done.
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This attitude is why the US is having issues .

You can easily win at younger age groups with bigger, faster, stronger plus kickball. But it's obviously not working as well when the kids age.

Unless we teach possession soccer from young ages, and sacrifice the easy victories from using athleticism and kickball, we will get passed by.
 
JJP said:
This attitude is why the US is having issues .

You can easily win at younger age groups with bigger, faster, stronger plus kickball. But it's obviously not working as well when the kids age.

Unless we teach possession soccer from young ages, and sacrifice the easy victories from using athleticism and kickball, we will get passed by.
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Fable created by losing youth coaches.
 
pulguita said:
The current US staff has never played technical, possession oriented soccer during their playing days. They have no appreciation or cultural identity for it. The asian countries did not either so they went out and got it. In the next 4-8 years the French and Spanish will catch and pass everyone. They will be more athletic and have a history of the technical game. They are just playing catch up do to a more cultural thing. If the US wants to get back in the game they need a clean slate, get the right coaches and it will take 8-12 years for the foundation to be corrected.
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What's Germany's excuse? The German team passed the US over a decade ago and then flattened or regressed.
 
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