USWNT

Janie270 said:
You voted for Trump because people are against bigots? I will agree that Trump has the backing of bigots, racists, homophobes, etc.
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What position does Trump play on the WNT? Let's talk soccer please.
 
I hate to give Fox credit for anything but their coverage has been really good. No BS tape delays. Plenty of ex players from multiple countries with excellent analysis.
 
I feel like China should spread out and really slow the game down to give themselves a chance...seems like they can't connect more than 1-2 passes when they try to match the up-tempo pace if Italy.
 
soccerobserver said:
I feel like China should spread out and really slow the game down to give themselves a chance...seems like they can't connect more than 1-2 passes when they try to match the up-tempo pace if Italy.
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They are starting to get a couple of chances but Italy is all over them. I think that they will get one. But so will Italy.
 
It is looking increasingly likely that it is going to be the USA against Europe in the quarterfinals. Pretty impressive if you ask me. 7 of 8 from UEFA through to the quarters would be crazy. Japan is the last non-American team standing against European domination.
 
I personally don't mind Dunn as a left back, as long as she gets forward on the attack often, which wasn't happening against Spain. There were a few balls that Mewis played to the corner that would have been perfect for a left back to make a run onto, but nobody was there. I get the need to play defensively sometimes, but Dunn's advantage comes from her attacking abilities. We need more runs forward where she can combo with Rapinoe or send crosses in.

Dunn is going to get straight up tested against France I think with their fast and clinical wing play. Nothing against Becky, but I might play Ertz at the left CB spot to support Dunn on that side and play Horan, Lavelle and Mewis in the midfield. But I'm just an armchair coach who thinks he knows more than he does.
 
oh canada said:
EOL doesn't watch games, just reads scorelines and stats. If memory serves, he/she was attempting (futilely) to posit last summer that the USWNT is far superior to all other countries and that this WC would bear that out. Any honest and objective viewer who just watched that Spain game, and the Norway/Australia game, and the France/Brazil game, and the Netherlands, etc. can see that while the US is still the favorite, they are far, very far from dominant.

As for Hinkle - there will never be any "proof" that she was overlooked due to her religious convictions. People in power who are racist/prejudiced are usually smart enough to not be so candid. And while I personally disagree with her beliefs, just because someone disagrees with gay marriage doesn't make them a bigot. If so, then President Obama was a bigot until he "evolved" his opinion as the Democrat nominee, every priest/pastor who preaches against gay marriage is a bigot, etc. If Hinkle disrespects Rapinoe because she is gay or hints at disapproval in the locker room, then she's a bigot.

Canada has been a leader in gay marriage and we are proud of that. Our women, however, have never been asked to wear a rainbow jersey. That decision is odd. Can you imagine if a cross was on a jersey for a game...omg!
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How many strawman are you going set up and knock down? As for your memory, the reality is I've never said the USWNT is far superior to anyone. I have said: "Relax. If the WNT doesn't win the WC, it will be the same result as most of the WCs they've played in. The WNT has been the most consistently good over time and that is going to continue indefinitely, but you're delusional if you think they're worse relative to the rest of the world than they've ever been. The world isn't passing the WNT by. There have always been countries able to challenge and beat the WNT and, go figure, there still are. Right now it is France."

As for Hinkle, funny how you admit that there's no proof that she was overlooked due to her religious convictions, but make the accusation anyway. If there's no proof, why on earth are you and your buddies going so far out of your way to make the accusation? In reality, there is plenty of proof that she was overlooked because she just isn't very good. No one considered her an elite player in HS. No one considered her an elite player in college. She was never called up for any legitimate WNT matches before she made public that she's a p.o.s. The only "evidence" that she's great is the testimony of a couple anonymous posters who claim they watch a ton of NWSL. But it is axiomatic that the judgment of anyone who wastes time watching a lot of NWSL is highly impaired.

And yes, if you are opposed to equal civil rights based on sexual orientation, you are by definition a bigot. You are right that Obama was a bigot until he gained subsequent wisdom. You are right that every priest/pastor who preaches against gay marriage is a bigot. It is not acceptable to espouse the violation of civil rights because you read a book that says it's ok. Just as priests and pastors have defended race discrimination based on the bible are bigots, so too are those who oppose gay marriage. Religion is not a excuse to be a horrible human being. If Hinkle wants to be a horrible p.o.s., that is her right. But it is also the right of everyone else to act accordingly in response.

If Rapinoe ever takes the position that homophobes and religious freaks shouldn't be allowed marry, you can call her a bigot too. But, unlike Hinkle, Rapinoe does not oppose anyone's civil rights or the U.S. Constitution.
 
soccerobserver said:
Brilliant Japanese combination leads to Hasegawa equalizer...1-1
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I wish that the US could play like this team. With the athleticism we have it would be hard to stop. Of course, you have to pick the players that can play that way instead of picking players based off of their beep test.
 
End of the Line said:
How many strawman are you going set up and knock down? As for your memory, the reality is I've never said the USWNT is far superior to anyone. I have said: "Relax. If the WNT doesn't win the WC, it will be the same result as most of the WCs they've played in. The WNT has been the most consistently good over time and that is going to continue indefinitely, but you're delusional if you think they're worse relative to the rest of the world than they've ever been. The world isn't passing the WNT by. There have always been countries able to challenge and beat the WNT and, go figure, there still are. Right now it is France."

As for Hinkle, funny how you admit that there's no proof that she was overlooked due to her religious convictions, but make the accusation anyway. If there's no proof, why on earth are you and your buddies going so far out of your way to make the accusation? In reality, there is plenty of proof that she was overlooked because she just isn't very good. No one considered her an elite player in HS. No one considered her an elite player in college. She was never called up for any legitimate WNT matches before she made public that she's a p.o.s. The only "evidence" that she's great is the testimony of a couple anonymous posters who claim they watch a ton of NWSL. But it is axiomatic that the judgment of anyone who wastes time watching a lot of NWSL is highly impaired.

And yes, if you are opposed to equal civil rights based on sexual orientation, you are by definition a bigot. You are right that Obama was a bigot until he gained subsequent wisdom. You are right that every priest/pastor who preaches against gay marriage is a bigot. It is not acceptable to espouse the violation of civil rights because you read a book that says it's ok. Just as priests and pastors have defended race discrimination based on the bible are bigots, so too are those who oppose gay marriage. Religion is not a excuse to be a horrible human being. If Hinkle wants to be a horrible p.o.s., that is her right. But it is also the right of everyone else to act accordingly in response.

If Rapinoe ever takes the position that homophobes and religious freaks shouldn't be allowed marry, you can call her a bigot too. But, unlike Hinkle, Rapinoe does not oppose anyone's civil rights or the U.S. Constitution.
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You have real issues. Somebody obviously hurt you in some way. This is a soccer forum and you clearly don't know shit about it. Why are you on a women's soccer forum if you think that watching the NWSL is a waste of time? You seem very sexist. It sucks that Hinkle and her opinions fuck with you so hard. The real issue is with you. There is no comparing racial bigots with homophobes and 400 years of history says that. Don't compare a choice with nature. It pretty easy to hide if you are gay. As a matter of fact, if somebody's sexuality is put up in your face it's pretty easy to not notice it at all (and who really cares anyway?) It's pretty hard to hide being black, brown or Asian.

Save your indignation for pay inequality. Marriage equality is the law of the land and who cares who somebody screws anyway. You clearly got your feelings hurt and just want to lash out. Save it for somebody that deserves it and/or cares.
 
Watching Morgan yesterday left me with a few thoughts:

Is she hurt? If she is Ellis is clueless for playing her when she has viable even better options at her disposal.

Is she sick? Again, on Ellis.

Are we witnessing the end of Morgan as an elite player? Maybe.

Is she pregnant? Hmm... I remember skiing with my wife in Mammoth and her just being very lethargic. Thought maybe it was the elevation. In the way home my wife bought a pregnancy test in Mojave. The drive home was all about what to name our soon to be newest addition.
 
@End of the Line If you are so outraged please take it to off topic so you can battle some real assholes that are actually racists and bigots. Leave us to our soccer conversation or at least watch some women's soccer so that you can add to it.

Or you could just be like @espola and just be a running joke with no purpose (I think his kids are in their 30's now).
 
MakeAPlay said:
You have real issues. Somebody obviously hurt you in some way. This is a soccer forum and you clearly don't know shit about it. Why are you on a women's soccer forum if you think that watching the NWSL is a waste of time? You seem very sexist. It sucks that Hinkle and her opinions fuck with you so hard. The real issue is with you. There is no comparing racial bigots and homophobes and 400 years of history says that. It pretty easy to hide if you are gay. As a matter of fact, if somebody's sexuality is put up in your face it's pretty easy to not notice it at all (and who really cares anyway?) It's pretty hard to hide being black, brown or Asian.

Save your indignation for pay inequality. Marriage equality is the law of the land and who cares who somebody screws anyway. You clearly got your feelings hurt and just want to lash out. Save it for somebody that deserves it and/or cares.
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Sad little man thought he could get away with gratuitous and false allegations that Hinkle was discriminated against by a bunch of lesbians. If you don't want someone in your face about it, don't bring it up. It's pretty simple.
 
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