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I agree most folks are flawed. I just don’t understand why only flawed white men are promoted for the most part to the exclusion of others.

Oh please... let's not pretend Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, MLK and whomever else you want to name, aren't promoted like white men. Black rappers and black athletes, who can't stay out of trouble for 5 minutes, are promoted. Cheat on your wife, Jay Z? Promoted. Sell drugs and use violence to build your record label ______ (insert black name here)? Promoted. Fail a 5th drug test and slap your girlfriend around, black NFL player? Promoted. Have 8 kids with 8 different women, Dwight Howard? Promoted.

Hell, in 2020, you can be a violent, career criminals and have buildings burned down in honor of your refusing to comply with police.
 
Isn't a likable character? He was a piece of shit. No, I won't admit it. You don't get to shoot at a cop and just walk away. Like every other black man killed by cops, HE determined his fate. HE chose to drive drunk, punch and shoot at a cop the same way HE chose to beat his wife and kids. HE was a human piece of shit that didn't get his day in court because HE chose to wave that right. HE chose his death.
No. Incorrect. One doesn’t get to be judge, jury, and executioner because they were embarrassed. Deadly force was not reasonable or necessary.
 
Oh please... let's not pretend Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, MLK and whomever else you want to name, aren't promoted like white men. Black rappers and black athletes, who can't stay out of trouble for 5 minutes, are promoted. Cheat on your wife, Jay Z? Promoted. Sell drugs and use violence to build your record label ______ (insert black name here)? Promoted. Fail a 5th drug test and slap your girlfriend around, black NFL player? Promoted. Have 8 kids with 8 different women, Dwight Howard? Promoted.

Hell, in 2020, you can be a violent, career criminals and have buildings burned down in honor of your refusing to comply with police.
Really? I would much prefer the contributions of Egypt or Jesus.
 
No. Incorrect. One doesn’t get to be judge, jury, and executioner because they were embarrassed. Deadly force was not reasonable or necessary.

Well, tasers CAN be fatal and so can rendering a cop defenseless, so you can take his Glock, since you've already proven you're more than willing to assault him. Good luck getting the murder conviction. When he beats it, don't blame anyone but your feelings.
 
Liberals haven't been able to get over losing 2016, Dre. And so you aren't surprised by it, America knows BLM is a phony, violent organization that only cares about blaming white people and cops. BLM doesn't care about black lives. If it did, it wouldn't promote violent, black criminals as victims. It would put an emphasis on the deaths of actual "innocent" black people. Even the 90% of those killed by other black people. Pretending like black lives matter to black people won't be enough, even aided by a pandemic, to beat Trump in November.

Those here under DACA are here under a false pretense. Just like BLM, they are glorifying illegal behavior. So what you're saying is you clearly support breaking the law. To Hell with those doing it the right way; waiting in line. Let's promote more criminal behavior!

I wonder if an educated man, like yourself, has considered the ramifications of the long term damage.


How do you look at yourself in the mirror. You are falling for the same old shit that the dumb white southerners fell for. You don't even realize that all that you are working with is crumbs. LOL.
 
Black on black crime debate? What is there to debate? We both know it's rampant and black folks refuse to blame themselves for it. You'll blame some cloaked government agency parachuting drugs into ghettos back in 19-whatever and I'll remind you it's no longer 19-whatever. Then I'll tell you black lives only matter to blacks if there's money or sympathy to be gained and you'll tell me black people are ALWAYS coming down on their own for the violence. I'll ask you for examples and you'll say they don't make the news. Then I'll remind you black people don't cooperate with police and you'll tell me black on black murders get solved... blah blah blah.

I don't have the tolerance for bullshit and never will. I've never seen an entire race of wound licking victims. If you want social justice, tell your people to steal a mirror the next time they're out getting profiled for stealing while they're shoplifting. That's a fresh and wonderful place to start.


White people commit by far the most crimes in America. Keep on with that poor white trash narrative. You are exposing your poor upbringing.
 
Obama forced his bullshit healthcare mandate on us... what do you call that... besides "dictator"? We don't have a dictator. We have a duly elected President that received half of the votes in this country. HALF. And since the day he took office, the libtard party has done nothing but try to unseat him for an infinite number of bullshit reasons and don't next to NOTHING for the American taxpayers that pay their salaries. We have people that haven't received an unemployment check in this state after being out of work for 3 months. We have people that haven't received the 1 stimulus check that's been issued in 3 months. What the fuck are they doing besides eating the corn out of Trump's shit?

Our system is full of bullshit laws that do nothing more than keep bullshit legislators employed. Just like the incredible amount of ambulance chasers in your profession. Making a living by keeping their hands in the pockets of hard working citizens. As for DACA, if you think George Floyd and Rayshard Brooks are victims, there's no way you'll see anything wrong with anchor babies.


You clearly don't know how laws are made. Please checkout schoolhouse rock.
 
How do you look at yourself in the mirror. You are falling for the same old shit that the dumb white southerners fell for. You don't even realize that all that you are working with is crumbs. LOL.

How? You stop blaming everyone else for your behavior. Simple shit... but you'd have to be willing to face accountability. That's clearly not the strong suit of the black man and woman.
 
White people commit by far the most crimes in America. Keep on with that poor white trash narrative. You are exposing your poor upbringing.

Right... because we're the largest population. You know what the difference is? Blacks commit a disproportionately large amount. Furthermore, blacks are the only race that blame everyone else for their crimes. Nobody else does that. You are exposing your lack of knowledge about the statistics.
 
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Not many. Do you realize how hard it is to get a solid drug connection? One of these days I’ll have the black on black crime debate with you and win but I want to give you more time to prepare your weak ass superficial analysis. It would be too easy to win and I like a challenge. Eat right and study hard and when you’re ready we’ll have the debate. But seriously, if you do the work the issue will resolve itself and you will be enlightened. I think the true facts will be much more palatable to you if you discover them yourself as opposed to social justice advocate schooling you on a public forum.

I am interested in a discussion. Not from a crime perspective, however. Some people are criminals. And poor people tend to be more violently criminal that non-poor people. Seems to me that some of those crime statistics are really an outgrowth of disparity in poverty, education and aspirations (by that I mean some people don't want to be poor, other people want to own a business so as not to be poor - the specifics of hopes and dreams matter). Being poor doesn't excuse crime, but I don't think crime statistics are mysterious when considered along side other variables.

Instead, I think a more interesting discussion is an assessment of what will be required of and from the black community to close the net worth, education and employment gaps. Removing bias from those systems is an important and necessary step. But, once removed (or more immediately along with that change process), what is your view of what will be required from the black community to take full advantage of an increasingly and hopefully sooner than later fully leveled playing field? And how does that intersect with your views on "cultural assimilation," if at all? And I ask because if people are really interested in helping heal this gaping wound in America, trying not to be unintentionally racist goes only so far. Helping people help themselves seems to me a much better path to real, sustainable outcomes. What does that look like for the person helping and the person being helped?
 
In general, I think it’s good. I have mentioned before that I send my kid to an International school at great personal expense because I want her to have a culturally and socially relevant education. A huge problem in the US has been the promotion of “great white men” to the exclusion of everyone else.

As a child, I remember visiting Mt Vernon on a field trip and thinking why would the guy who never promised to lie was a slave owner with illegitimate mixed kids. I don’t think someone that supported the institution of slavery should be honored.
Do you think former slave owners should be promoted as heroes to our youth?

I think it depends. I think nobody is all hero or villain. The contributions of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and others to America are pretty significant despite them not being close to perfect. I don't think those contributions should be presented without reference to the other important parts of their lives. The whole story should be told. But I think the life we lead today as Americans is, in significant part, owed to the people who created this country. The fact that people owned slaves says something about them, but not everything. I also think that if people believe a statue should be removed, then they should work through an available process with the appropriate authorities to remove it. I don't think it is up to the people who pulled it down to decide that they think it should come down and then pull it down because that's how they feel. It doesn't belong to them alone and thus is not their decision alone as to what happens to it. If we ignore the civil processes we have in place, then this all becomes about might. That's dangerous and I don't think any of us want to live in a society like that. I don't - even if I have the biggest guns.
 
In general, I think it’s good. I have mentioned before that I send my kid to an International school at great personal expense because I want her to have a culturally and socially relevant education. A huge problem in the US has been the promotion of “great white men” to the exclusion of everyone else.

As a child, I remember visiting Mt Vernon on a field trip and thinking why would the guy who never promised to lie was a slave owner with illegitimate mixed kids. I don’t think someone that supported the institution of slavery should be honored.
Do you think former slave owners should be promoted as heroes to our youth?
Of course they should, doesn’t mean we can’t change our minds.

People evolve, just ask Obama.
 
Well, tasers CAN be fatal and so can rendering a cop defenseless, so you can take his Glock, since you've already proven you're more than willing to assault him. Good luck getting the murder conviction. When he beats it, don't blame anyone but your feelings.
What you are failing to realize is that young law clerks are writing several preliminary motions. The arguments you are making
I am interested in a discussion. Not from a crime perspective, however. Some people are criminals. And poor people tend to be more violently criminal that non-poor people. Seems to me that some of those crime statistics are really an outgrowth of disparity in poverty, education and aspirations (by that I mean some people don't want to be poor, other people want to own a business so as not to be poor - the specifics of hopes and dreams matter). Being poor doesn't excuse crime, but I don't think crime statistics are mysterious when considered along side other variables.

Instead, I think a more interesting discussion is an assessment of what will be required of and from the black community to close the net worth, education and employment gaps. Removing bias from those systems is an important and necessary step. But, once removed (or more immediately along with that change process), what is your view of what will be required from the black community to take full advantage of an increasingly and hopefully sooner than later fully leveled playing field? And how does that intersect with your views on "cultural assimilation," if at all? And I ask because if people are really interested in helping heal this gaping wound in America, trying not to be unintentionally racist goes only so far. Helping people help themselves seems to me a much better path to real, sustainable outcomes. What does that look like for the person helping and the person being helped?
Really all black folks need is for whites to stop being scandalous. Black success has always scared white folks. Look at what happened to black wall street in Oklahoma or the Black Panther Party. I don’t know any racist black people but I know of several racist whites.

I think white men are the most violent and destructive that the world has ever seen. The Moors civilized Europe. Whites were uplifted by Africans and stabbed them in the back due to greed. Blacks have never enslaved or oppressed white folks. White folks have a long history of misappropriating black culture and history and presenting it as “white greatness.”
The white Greeks were great but they stole everything from Egypt. If you travel the world you’ll see that the images of Jesus was black until pope Julius II commissioned Michelangelo to paint his image and he painted an image of his white surfer dude cousin. I think this was the beginning of white supremacy.
So if white folks would stop lying and being scandalous, things would work themselves out.
 
I think it depends. I think nobody is all hero or villain. The contributions of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and others to America are pretty significant despite them not being close to perfect. I don't think those contributions should be presented without reference to the other important parts of their lives. The whole story should be told. But I think the life we lead today as Americans is, in significant part, owed to the people who created this country. The fact that people owned slaves says something about them, but not everything. I also think that if people believe a statue should be removed, then they should work through an available process with the appropriate authorities to remove it. I don't think it is up to the people who pulled it down to decide that they think it should come down and then pull it down because that's how they feel. It doesn't belong to them alone and thus is not their decision alone as to what happens to it. If we ignore the civil processes we have in place, then this all becomes about might. That's dangerous and I don't think any of us want to live in a society like that. I don't - even if I have the biggest guns.
What about the process to decide what statues are erected in the first place. I’m certain Natives & blacks weren’t considered. Why aren’t you concerned about how the statues got there and what they represent?
 
Really? I would much prefer the contributions of Egypt or Jesus.

We don't have to go all the way to Jesus. Harriet Tubman or Rosa Parks, for example. I certainly agree that statues of people who are not white (or male) are in far too short of supply. But the fix is to build those statutes, not to tear down others. What does the absence of that George Washington statue teach our children?

And, no, I am not talking about confederate generals. I understand that perspective, but I don't see it the same as I do when we get to Washington and Jefferson.
 
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