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USSF still has the same board, so the power structure really has not changed all that much.
US Soccer: "Our Proposal for Equal Pay for Women & Men"
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Some of the changes under Carlos was to add a GM and transfer much of the decision making to the Executive Team, a departure from the previous President. The executive staff (Remedi, Wahlke, Buethe, Raina, Wallach, and Stewart) hold most of the real power. See, https://www.ussoccer.com/governance/board-of-directors/about
Remember, all of the Board members are volunteers (including the President (Cordeiro now Cone). The Board essentially rubber stamps the recommendations of the Executive team.
Having attended the last AGM (Nashville) and the Feb 2020 US Soccer board meeting, reviewed the 2019 minutes, and had multiple conversations with leaders of the various councils and board members, I can personally tell you there is a tremendous amount of misconceptions related to US Soccer. At its core, you have some very intelligent people serving on the Board with a passion for growing the game. They are all volunteers and spend significant time looking at the bigger picture. US Soccer is not the same type of non-profit that your local club operates. The employees and officers do almost all of the heavy lifting.
But make absolutely no mistake. Because the Player's Council enjoys weighted votes and consistently votes as a unified bloc, the Player's council and the Pro Council members ultimately run the show. Nobody is elected to the President or Vice President position without the Player's council stamp. In fact, this year Cindy Cone was challenged by John Motta for VP. Cone didn't campaign and won by a landslide because she knew the Adult and Youth Council would be all over the board with their votes, and the Athletes and Pro Council would vote as a unified bloc.
I don't doubt any of this. I'm sure there are some very intelligent and soccer passionate people involved with US Soccer. Unfortunately, I have to judge US Soccer by the actual decisions it makes. Give it credit for the VW deal and getting the World Cup. However, these have been overwhelmed by a litany of poor to horrendous decisions made by US Soccer in the last few years (not all under Cordeiro). Despite some of my hyperbole regarding stupidity, I think the incompetence is really being driven by arrogance. Based upon my experience, US Soccer needs a culture change at minimum and possibly a full reorganization.
As far as the pay equity issue goes, US Soccer has some very valid defenses to the WNT's claims (particularly the guaranteed pay issue). However, they have to tread carefully PR wise. The Court of Public Opinion is very important in this matter. They have to look at this issue with a much broader view than just a legal standpoint.
On the flipside, the WNT can't just rely on the Court of Public Opinion and have to be realistic about the facts that aren't in their favor. MWN, many of which you have pointed out in very good detail.
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Yeah...In reviewing the make up of the Board, I noted only the independent directors had the background that could have foreseen the backlash and the need to review what was going to become a public document. My experience with independent directors of nonprofits is they are window dressing for the organization and the director. Their input is generally limited to a meeting one time a year. Maybe it is different at US Soccer. I am pretty certain EY will leave off their volunteering for US Soccer from their proposals for now.
I am guessing that the sponsors that met with US Soccer laid some ultimatums on the table including the requirement for a plan as to how they are going to fix this situation. I believe that plan will include settlement with the women in the very near future. I don't see how they continue to fight with fervor and come out of this situation without huge backlash including loss of sponsors that pay US Soccer more than the woman are asking for.
I am guessing that the sponsors that met with US Soccer laid some ultimatums on the table including the requirement for a plan as to how they are going to fix this situation. I believe that plan will include settlement with the women in the very near future. I don't see how they continue to fight with fervor and come out of this situation without huge backlash including loss of sponsors that pay US Soccer more than the woman are asking for.
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Who here noticed that the protesting USWNT wore there jerseys inside out dissing the US but had perfectly reversed NIKE logos on the inside of their jerseys? Who has a Nike jersey where you can see the logo through the screen print of their jerseys on the inside? This has been planned and "F" Nike. I have not bought a Nike product in over a year and will never do so again!
The Nike logo is embroidered, so it shows up on both sides.
And it was their warmups, not their game jerseys.
Thank you for correcting me with the embroidery. Nike can still KMA along with the WNT.
Other than your emotional response, do you have some specific issue?
Nike thanks you for the free publicity. As they knew with Kaepernick, every douche who whines about equality and opposes Nike’s support of civil rights only helps generate more sales. So keep up the good work.
Nope don't need to resort to social media to give Nike any free pub. It's the old fashioned Breck commercial way - he told 2 friends and they told 2 friends and so on and so on.........
The guy who put the "repeat" in "lather - rinse - repeat" retired wealthy.
Uh, Breck controlled 20% of the shampoo market when it came up with this slogan. Now it is only sold by Dollar Tree.
Is it me or does Dollar Tree and Big Lot's have a funky smell when you walk in. Though I scored on TP at the Big Lot's in Hermosa Beach.
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I can’t say I’ve ever been to one, but if they’ve got TP, that will definitely change.
I don't typically shop there either but TP is like gold.
Hopefully, they refunded some of their fees.
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Equal pay lawsuit: Firm that filed sexist legal strategy for US Soccer officially off the case
The lawsuit has officially changed folders for US Soccer as it seeks a settlement over trial.
Soccerfan2
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It would be so nice to see Cone lead them to a mutually agreeable settlement.Hopefully, they refunded some of their fees.
Equal pay lawsuit: Firm that filed sexist legal strategy for US Soccer officially off the case
The lawsuit has officially changed folders for US Soccer as it seeks a settlement over trial.
So wonder what they mean by Lydia Wahlke being on leave - does that mean she is fired? Is this a disciplinary leave or is she out for stress and embarrassment. Pretty bad for a woman to be giving her stamp of approval on such a terrible and insulting legal argument against other women. I think it is worse coming from another female. She should have known better just from her own experience of being a female attorney working in the professional sports world.
Blame it all on Lydia just makes the men look lame. The men behind the masks told her to it is my guess. However, maybe Lydia got the job at lead attorney because of this legal argument? If so, her career is over and she seems smarter than that imo. I told all of you 98% of lawsuits settle. I said it was 98% in favor of Alex Morgan and the ladies. Now it's 99.1% in favor of the plaintiffs. Again, any good attorney will tell you no case is a 100%. This one is real close.
MacDre
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Lydia is in the hot seat because it was her job to retain and manage outside counsel.
I think Parlow-Cone is in a difficult position. If I was representing the USWNT I would advise them to only accept an offer that granted all requested damages.
USSF and Biglaw needed to win this case during pre-trial motions. They didn’t win and their facts suck. The guys at Biglaw tend to be paper pushers that are scared of court because most of them suck at it. I’m not sure what laws the case was filed under but there may also be potential punitive damages as well for fraud or deceit.
USSF has no choice but to give the USWNT what they ask for. They should do it sooner rather than later.
Excellent perspective. Pre-trial motions is the most incredible process of trying to see who is being most honest and who is a scammer or a cheat. It goes both ways. One side has their damage claims and it's what they think is the truth all the while the other side has been telling them to "F" Off for a few years and they owe you squat. "Go away and stop complaining" they say. Attorneys get in the action all day. Non emotional folks they are. I got to meet a Mediator one day and I must say he has one of the best jobs in America. I hear they make $8K for a days work and some legal preview time and write up his conclusions and let both sides know his legal opinion, which is always this: "No case is 100%. You could win and never see a dime. You could win and wait forever to get paid as most will appeal. You could win and the defendants file for BK and no money to give. Or, you could lose because one lone juror hates your ass. So the mediator will usually tell you to take deal and your attorneys will agree. I hear this is after 10 hours holed up in some office building in LA to help two sides stop whining and get a deal done before 7pm. Nice life and it saves America major hate and war for a long trial. I hear it all come at a head at mediation day. I wonder if they have started with depositions? My buddy, who plays lawyer all day, told me he knows he has a really good value case is when folks who delay or try to get out of their depo.