Turning Pro at 13

Funny you said that and Wat Fly agreed. I see my error. I suck at this btw. I have no manners because I feel like time is short and were all getting robbed. I'll let those two handle things and mine my own business.
Don't read too much into it, I appreciate your support.

Like OhCanada said I might be on a lonely island. You may be stuck there too, but I'd strongly suggest separate palm trees.
 
Don't read too much into it, I appreciate your support.

Like OhCanada said I might be on a lonely island. You may be stuck there too, but I'd strongly suggest separate palm trees.

We can each have a palm tree on this lonely Island. Pick your seven bro. Remember, were stuck here together so choose wisely.

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The criticism is not towards OM. She's a great soccer player for a 15 year old. The criticism is towards the decision by Portland to play her over their existing players. If you watch the Final OL v Thorns game, you will notice how OM is not ready for this league yet, IMHO (as is with all my opinions).

It was a great game to watch but not a great game for OM.

OM did a great thing by opening up the NWSL to girls under 18. I'm very proud of her and grateful for what she did for future girls.

Watch the game in a foreign language and form your own opinion.

I'm still cheering for her to grow into the game. She sacrificed a lot and is a hard worker with a lot of talent. She just isn't ready RIGHT NOW for the Thorns compared to what they have on their bench.
I watched the game. Thanks for posting it @Emma. Congrats to the Thorns. They won a hard-fought battle. My impression was that OM's touches were above the average for her team. There were quite a few bad ones and a handful of very bad ones for the Thorns as Lyon pressured well and appeared very athletic - although I don't know if they are pretty typical for women's professional soccer as I don't see much of it. Isn't Lyon considered to be among the top teams in the world? That should probably be taken into consideration when evaluating the play of the Thorns and OM in this game.

I can see the argument that OM can be helpful to the Thorns now. I agree with @Sunil Illuminati in terms of one or two moments a game that can tilt the outcome. Having that special talent for putting the ball exactly where it needs to be is game-changing in soccer. Sure, basketball can come down to the final shot, but there have been many, many shots that go in prior to the last shot. In soccer, there may not be any. It was also apparent that she is not as explosive as any of the better attackers in this game. While she didn't stand out in this game, there was nothing I saw that indicated she didn't belong on her own merits.
 
I watched the game. Thanks for posting it @Emma. Congrats to the Thorns. They won a hard-fought battle. My impression was that OM's touches were above the average for her team. There were quite a few bad ones and a handful of very bad ones for the Thorns as Lyon pressured well and appeared very athletic - although I don't know if they are pretty typical for women's professional soccer as I don't see much of it. Isn't Lyon considered to be among the top teams in the world? That should probably be taken into consideration when evaluating the play of the Thorns and OM in this game.

I can see the argument that OM can be helpful to the Thorns now. I agree with @Sunil Illuminati in terms of one or two moments a game that can tilt the outcome. Having that special talent for putting the ball exactly where it needs to be is game-changing in soccer. Sure, basketball can come down to the final shot, but there have been many, many shots that go in prior to the last shot. In soccer, there may not be any. It was also apparent that she is not as explosive as any of the better attackers in this game. While she didn't stand out in this game, there was nothing I saw that indicated she didn't belong on her own merits.
Every player will have one or two impact moments, as most bench parents will dwell on these to push for more play time, but a true impact player creates these moments consistently throughout the game. The one ball that went over the defender for a speed race was tough as her teammate was not in a position to win that foot race and OM had more space and time to move the ball herself to give her teammate time. OM was unable to retain possession or intercept balls but for maybe 2-3 plays, not counting simple negative passes to defenders. There were moments I was excited as I thought OM created great plays but in rewinding it, the player was not OM. Sunil's comments made me pay more attention to those things. After OM left the game, the team had more opportunities. The stats first half were very lopsided because Thorns were backtracking to help her. The Portland Coach knew it too. Lyon is a tough team to play against but a 15 year old prodigy that belongs on the Thorns starting line up should be able to handle it because Thorns is a great team too.

I'm a sucker for young players and cheering them on. Putting young players in a position where they are just floating doesn't help all players succeed. Watching OM through the years (because my daughter and I are fans), she's the type of player that builds confidence through being on top, not the bottom. Some players grow more when they are the bottom players or mid players, but some thrive more as the top players. Maybe the Coach realized this and is trying to put her in positions where she can feel this way. OM thrives on teams where she's a top player. One soccer mom's observation through the years.

What an experience for OM, to play in an international Pro championship game at 15, nothing will take that away regardless of why she was given that opportunity. Still routing her on and hoping she finds her way to be an impact player consistently in the NWSL in the near future because Freddy is not the future our family had envisioned for OM.
 
Reports are out today that high school junior Jaedyn Shaw is in preseason training camp with the Washington Spirit. Looks likely the OM lawsuit really does mean a new day is dawning with regards to women getting similar professional opportunities as men.
 
Reports are out today that high school junior Jaedyn Shaw is in preseason training camp with the Washington Spirit. Looks likely the OM lawsuit really does mean a new day is dawning with regards to women getting similar professional opportunities as men.
I'm not sure how I feel about HS players going pro.

It's wrong that there were rules not allowing under 18s to not go professional. But at the same time women professional players earnings is peanuts.

Maybe bringing on younger exciting talent will expand the audience. However I doubt if there's additional revenue that it will trickle down from leadership to players (unless agents get involved).

It would be cool to see the youngest / hottest new players on the field (assuming they earn the position) vs the purple haired dinosaurs.
 
I'm not sure how I feel about HS players going pro.

It's wrong that there were rules not allowing under 18s to not go professional. But at the same time women professional players earnings is peanuts.

The "peanuts" idea is not quite as true today as it was before.
The minimum salary is now $35k. Average salary is $54k.

Lets take the minimum, and tack on $15k/yr in soccer sponsorships and soccer side hustles. That equates to a girl earning $200k over the 4 years she would otherwise be in college.

That $200k is more than enough to pay for 4 years of college if the soccer thing doesn't ultimately work out. It is enough to reasonably justify and offset the foregoing of a soccer scholarship.

For many girls, I gotta think this is now a viable option.
 
The "peanuts" idea is not quite as true today as it was before.
The minimum salary is now $35k. Average salary is $54k.

Lets take the minimum, and tack on $15k/yr in soccer sponsorships and soccer side hustles. That equates to a girl earning $200k over the 4 years she would otherwise be in college.

That $200k is more than enough to pay for 4 years of college if the soccer thing doesn't ultimately work out. It is enough to reasonably justify and offset the foregoing of a soccer scholarship.

For many girls, I gotta think this is now a viable option.

Do you think that after 4 years of living on $50k salary a girl would have $200k in the bank?
 
Do you think that after 4 years of living on $50k salary a girl would have $200k in the bank?

No, and good point.

But in all likelihood the living costs over those 4 years wouldn't be too far off from the typical out-of-pocket costs of the same girl going to college for those 4 years. And it only matters if the professional career in soccer doesn't work out and the girl wants to go back to college. If it does work out, then obviously the player is in a much better position than they would have been if they chose college.

I do concede your point, but the professional situation is much more viable and justifiable now than it ever has been. It isn't like the men and probably never will be, but it's closer.
 
Reports are out today that high school junior Jaedyn Shaw is in preseason training camp with the Washington Spirit. Looks likely the OM lawsuit really does mean a new day is dawning with regards to women getting similar professional opportunities as men.
Or she’s just training with them to stay sharp during the ECNL down time (which has been done before as I know someone who went to train in Europe with a pro team’s u20’s). One can only speculate.
 
Or she’s just training with them to stay sharp during the ECNL down time (which has been done before as I know someone who went to train in Europe with a pro team’s u20’s). One can only speculate.


Look at the San Diego Waves Preseason Highlights Video, you will see a YNT player for the OC.
 
A LOT of people think their kid will be a USWNT player when their kid is 8.

Ah the beauty of a blank canvas.
Dreams of children are a beautiful thing. :)
Haven't had to tell my kid yet that sure it's possible but 0.0000001% is a lot closer to 0 than 1.
For now, I'll let them dream and I'll dream with them.
 
Congrats to Moultrie. Proving the doubters wrong.

Has a brace tonight for the USWNT (even if it wasn't the best competition) so think she's doing all right.

She and her parents made a decision and I say it was the right one. Everyone had their own path, don't listen to some people on here
 
I love it :) Let her go pro whenever she wants is my take. Same for basketball players. I'm still SMFH why any stud ball player can't sign at 16. This BS that they have to wait until 18 and also go to college for one year. Oh Please, #lethemgopro. Who needs college when pro is right around the corner? My dd was able to battle the great OM for two years at practice every week and let me tell you Soccer Fan 4 Life, this player loves to play soccer and is very happy when she plays and my dd says she is one of kind and is all in soccer 24/7. It's called freedom of choice. The free choice to be whatever the hell you want to be in life. My dd was approached to go pro as well back when she was 12. Of course I was blushing with dad pride and ego. I heard about dads sending kids to far away places to be a pro in soccer player for the boys ((my dd former All American coach left home at 15 to play in Holland with the flying Dutchman)). However, this new proposal for girls seemed whack if I were to be honest. I thought about her going pro for a few seconds and then it was a big fat, "hell no." I came on here with satire three years ago and so many damn fools thought I was serious about sending my daughter away at 13 to be trained by the "Pros." Ahhhhh, no thank you :)
Thanks Lastman for going back into time. Wow, the posts about OM and her dream to go Pro are coming back to bite some you in the ass. Girls Soccer should not be all about college only. Let FREEDOM rain. Let each player dream their dreams, to have fun and quit or get a college deal or go Pro or do both. Look where were at today with Girls Soccer. The best of the best is not going to college. Like I said a million tilmes, let the dreamer dream. I still think 13 might be a little too young to go Pro and send your dd away to soccer boarding school, but to each his and her own. Bottomline, she scored a Brace at the Gold Cup. Yes, it was against the Dominican Republic, but she is on the Woman's National Team, playing with the Thorns (although that place was abusing the players in the past) and has a very nice Nike deal. No one can say she hasn't worked her ass off to be the best of all the rest. She just signed a new deal through 2026. This is not the Marinovich Syndrome like one poster wrote. Go OM, go Thompson Sisters, Go Shaw, Go Rodman, Go AS, Go Morgan and Go USA!!!
 
Thanks Lastman for going back into time. Wow, the posts about OM and her dream to go Pro are coming back to bite some you in the ass. Girls Soccer should not be all about college only. Let FREEDOM rain. Let each player dream their dreams, to have fun and quit or get a college deal or go Pro or do both. Look where were at today with Girls Soccer. The best of the best is not going to college. Like I said a million tilmes, let the dreamer dream. I still think 13 might be a little too young to go Pro and send your dd away to soccer boarding school, but to each his and her own. Bottomline, she scored a Brace at the Gold Cup. Yes, it was against the Dominican Republic, but she is on the Woman's National Team, playing with the Thorns (although that place was abusing the players in the past) and has a very nice Nike deal. No one can say she hasn't worked her ass off to be the best of all the rest. She just signed a new deal through 2026. This is not the Marinovich Syndrome like one poster wrote. Go OM, go Thompson Sisters, Go Shaw, Go Rodman, Go AS, Go Morgan and Go USA!!!
Who’s mad about making around $220k dollars a year. Plus whatever else she makes off her endorsements at 18 years of age. I think it’s better than any job out of college at 22 years of age. She’s prob a millionaire already. Invest that money right over time. Not a bad gig for a girl. F16C36BA-58FE-4EFB-B816-E4A83E471F48.jpeg
 
Who’s mad about making around $220k dollars a year. Plus whatever else she makes off her endorsements at 18 years of age. I think it’s better than any job out of college at 22 years of age. She’s prob a millionaire already. Invest that money right over time. Not a bad gig for a girl.
What amazes me is the number of players that are probably similar talent level wasting their youth playing in college for a partial scholarship or no scholarship at all.
 
Who’s mad about making around $220k dollars a year. Plus whatever else she makes off her endorsements at 18 years of age. I think it’s better than any job out of college at 22 years of age. She’s prob a millionaire already. Invest that money right over time. Not a bad gig for a girl. View attachment 19906
She is on center stage and laughing all the way to da bank🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Look at her point to all the haters👉👉👉👉👉

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